Why has this site become so sullen since Alito got confirmed?

[Flabbergasted]

We need to start looking forward not back!

[leftstreet]

1. Sullen? What do you find sullen about it?

:shrug:

[Flabbergasted]

2. Just about everthing actually! Theres no one really trying to look

forward? No Dreaming so to speak!

[shain from kane]

3. Recently, most dreams have turned into nightmares. n/t

[Flabbergasted]

4. If that's the way you see it...Yeah...thats the way it is!

[Jade Fox]

5. The Democratic roll-over on the Alito confirmation....

was pretty damned alarming. Here the Dems had a golden opportunity to kick back hard against the Christo/fascist Republican agenda, and they gave it a pass. I'm always trying to see a method in the Democrats madness, but that made me pretty sure they have none.

[Flabbergasted]

9. Then we need to take it a step further....Its OUR CONSTITUTIONAL

RIGHT TO CONTROL the govenrment. What the hell are we doing? 5 years and we're still sitting on our ass!

[Jade Fox]

14. I agree.....

I think we are going to have to take down Bushco ourselves. Even if we win the House/Senate in the fall, those in Government (and of course the Press) just aren't getting it. You would think Nixonian approval ratings might give them a clue that WE DON'T LIKE WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING!!! It's like the government (and the Press of course) has gotten the idea that they know what we want better that we do.

I was just thinking today that perhaps we all need to start focusing on Impeachment resolutions in our states. We all need to go camp our at our state's legislatures and demand it.

[Flabbergasted]

15. I think we need to cut to the chase and develope a realistic game plan!

[Greyhound]

30. Such as? n/t

[Flabbergasted]

31. I used the word "we" for a purpose!

[Greyhound]

33. There's where I get sullen, It seems to me that most of our problems

can only be solved with a fundamental change in how we govern, and there's only two ways to do that. I'm doubtful the first will be allowed to happen and I dread the second. :evilfrown:

[TheWatcher]

36. You always seem to Post threads like this

But you always dodge the hard questions.

You say "we", but from your answer above you seem to be wanting everyone else to come up with the ideas, but you have none of your own.

How about sharing a few with the audience?

[henslee]

6. I have noticed a change in... myself. I'm so tired of being a cheerleader

and giving a shit only to be more and more horrified everyday. I am resigned to the fact that the fix is in. World War III is coming. The planet is dying. Politicians suck. Media sucks too. Corporations are worse. The weak get trampled. I have pretty much given up on good things happening. :-(

[Flabbergasted]

10. You know we need to really wake up and start fighting again!

[KoKo]

7. I've noticed the change...sort of like the Mighty Wind went out of Sails

on this site. Not to say that we don't have great DU'ers who have come in to fill the void...but it seemed to me the "PASSION" went "OUT" with Alito for "Activism."

It's hard to get back what you lose...but think there are fellow "torch carriers" who have come in to fill the void for those of us who felt so bad and couldn't have the "spirit" to go on after so many "DU ALERTS" to call and petition their "absent" Congresscritters...if you lived in a Red State.

Whatever..........Whatever...............Whatever..............Whatever.....

[Flabbergasted]

11. Lets get it back now. We need common dreams posts and stuff similar?

[KoKo]

16. Maybe "sullen" isn't the best word to describe it. "Disillusioned" might

be a better fit.

After all some DU Members have been at this since Selection 2000 and before with he "Stalking of Clinton."

It's understandable that "extreme fatigue" would start to set in with some who've been working so hard for so long.

It's the one's who came in after 2002 & 2004 that some of us need to whip our "flagging spirits" into shape with renewed ENERGY!

Come on guys...help us "flagging spirits out" here........We need YA!!!!

[Flabbergasted]

23. That's what I'm talking bout!

[Dr Fate]

8. I am still waiting for the inspiration the filibuster would have given me.

For the time being, I'll have to make do with the tiny handful of Democrats who are not frightened to death of Bush/media.

You are correct to suggest that the Alito confirmation was a day when I learned that most Democrats are too frightened of Bush/media to stand up for their base.

You are correct as far as me personly- I have been extremely disappointed since that day- but I cant speak for the rest of the DUers.

Democrats that I meet in every-day life or at DU are great- the ones on TV seem to be mostly frightened little girls and game-show hosts.

[Flabbergasted]

12. But we still need to fight....I mean come on! Power to the people!

[KoKo]

13. Well....there's nothing that I can disagree with you there....on this post

and if you ever noticed I was always "at you" being a "Dem Romantic" trying to tell you Dems were better than what you thought.

Turns out...YOU WERE CORRECT!

:-( Sad...isn't it..... I can't "pump" anymore...because even "I" don't believe what the "Kool Aid" I drunk tries to tell my brain....

[sendero]

17. Because that's when we realized..

...once and for all that the Dem Senate sucks ass, and we are totally on our own.

[Flabbergasted]

22. Time to realize something to our favor? Or?

[Greyhound]

18. Dr Fate nailed it.

The so-called "leadership" just let the single most important issue go right through without even a whimper. Roberts was a tragedy, but to allow Scalito through just sealed the deal. Your Great-Grand Children will suffer the consequences of Democratic inaction and god forbid if they get to make another appointment, all is lost (at least for my lifetime).

[Flabbergasted]

19. Your grandchildren will also pay the price of your apathy!

[Greyhound]

20. First, you assume an apathy on my part where none exists, yet you

completely ignore the neglect of the "leaders". Secondly you assume progeny where none exists.

If it makes you feel better to try to place the blame on me, go right ahead, but unless you are much older than your attitude suggests, I would tell you that I've been fighting this corruption longer than you've been alive. Now it is your turn.:P

[Flabbergasted]

21. I take everthing written on this site with a grain of salt...I'd still say

that agreeing to this was an apathetic statement: (from Fate)

"I am still waiting for the inspiration the filibuster would have given me.

For the time being, I'll have to make do with the tiny handful of Democrats who are not frightened to death of Bush/media.

You are correct to suggest that the Alito confirmation was a day when I learned that most Democrats are too frightened of Bush/media to stand up for their base.

You are correct as far as me personly- I have been extremely disappointed since that day- but I cant speak for the rest of the DUers.

Democrats that I meet in every-day life or at DU are great- the ones on TV seem to be mostly frightened little girls and game-show hosts.)

I am not trying to insult you in any way but I'd so love to see some forward momentum in the "Antiwars Movement".


I dutifully agree to take on you burdens if you think you are older than I am.....

[Greyhound]

27. To be clear, I believe the overwhelming majority of Democrats

are good, decent people. My (and Dr Fate's I think) quarrel is with the so-called "leadership", that has done nothing but feather their own nests for decades, they are utterly negligent. If ever there was a time to make a statement and take a stand against that which is wrong, it was the Scalito nomination.

We, as any group asked to sacrifice for a greater cause does, require inspiration and true passion from time to time from those we trust to act on our behalf, to lead. Time and time again, they have failed. Not only have they failed to act, they have failed to even acknowledge their failure. Hell, they won't even talk about it, the curs.

To try to get some perspective, the SCOTUS from the 1830's was, so far, the very worst we have ever had. We are still screwed up, 170 years later, in so many ways from the horrible decisions made by them, from Jim Crow, to business-over-people, to bigotry, to classism, not to mention the Civil War, all because of them. And, if you have children, and if they have children, what will you tell your grand-children regarding how this came to pass? Will you explain that the Democratic Party (assuming it even exists) felt the time to stand up was not right, that it was more important to "triangulate" to win the next fixed election, back when we had the pretense of elections, than it was to protect their heritage? Will they even know to ask, or will they be so busy trying to survive in a third world hell-hole, that it will not even occur to them?

When, and if, I see the next generation taking up the cause I will get up, dust myself off and man the ramparts once again, as my parents and Grand-parents, did.
The troops are tired and not sure why they're even fighting anymore, where's our Washington? Our Hancock, Adams, Paine, etc.? :shrug:

[Flabbergasted]

29. I have only a simple motivation to propel people to activism!

[sendero]

24. Who knows what you mean ..

.... by that statement. But just in case you mean this, I'd like to tell you that you are wrong.

Around here, when stuff like the Alito confirmation happens, and folks bitch about being let down by our Senate, there are always a handful of dumbass mouth breathing asswipes who try to blame it on "us".

Let me tell you - we elect our Senators, we send them money, we send them letters, we send them emails, we call their office and we EXPECT THEM to vote the way we want, to fight for what we ask them to fight for.

We can't go to the Senate floor with an SKS and force them. They either do what their constituents want them to, or we try to replace them with someone who will. That's not apathy, that is the process.

And the Democratic Senate as it currently sits will go down in history in shame, and that is NOT our fault.

[Flabbergasted]

25. Fault comes when we refuse to accept our current reality!

[sendero]

26. Who's accepting it?

That's why I'm all for Lamont making a bid, even if it risks a seat for us. You cannot make an omelette without breaking some eggs, we need to send the Senate a message.

That message is: if you cannot support the wishes of the vast majority of the folks who put you in office, you can look for another cushy-ass perk-encrusted job.

Fact is, the problem in Washington is NOT all Republican. We have our own house to clean, and the nation is not going to move forward until we find a way to break the stranglehold INCUMBENTS have on their positions.

[Flabbergasted]

28. The messages we send are not heard by congress? They hear the

words "economic boycott"!

[AndyTiedye]

32. We Have A Lot of Very Valid Reasons For Being Sullen!

1. Alito's confirmation brings us to the verge of a theocratic (as well as totally Bushbot) majority on the U.S. Supreme Court.
2. #1 guarantees that all electoral disuptes will be resolved in favor of the Republicans
3. NSAgate, and Congress falling over backwards to retroactively legalize it (after a short burst of outrage that disappeared in about the amount of time it would have taken for each of them to get a phone call from Karl Rove detailing all the blackmail they had gleaned from their snooping). The realization that #3 inevitably led to #1 (Alito's confirmation) and the regime getting its way on everything else.
4. The realization that we are not far enough ahead to prevail against the level of election fraud we can now expect. In some states, like Ohio, they can turn a landslide for us into a landslide for them, and get away with it, as they did last November.
5. Bush**ler's determination to attack/bomb/nuke Iran, no matter what anybody else thinks of the idea.

[Bluesplayer]

34. I'm not sullen

I'm just out of pot.

[omega minimo]

35. impotence

:wow:

[ClarkBayh 2008]

37. I'm not sullen either; I'm cautiously optimistic

The Democrats have to simply start gaming the system as well
as the GOP. Now is the time for all good people to come to
the aid of the party. And unite. If the dems pick up
a few seats in the senate we can ride out Bush.

But it is time to explain firmly to the left wing
Naderites that there will
be no leftist socialist revolution in the U.S. anytime
soon. It's time to start focusing on backing practical, common
sense centrist dems as the only reasonable alternative
to an ongoing Reagan cut taxes increase deficit military spending
revolution.

[Totally Committed]

38. I think my sig line says it all...

I feel that I, my kids, my friends and my country got screwed, and some in my Party aided and abetted or did nothing.

TC