How Long Does It Take To Train Iraqis?

[NativeTexan]

I keep hearing how,"we will stand down, as the Iraqi's stand up". Or that we have "x" amount of police trained or soldiers trained.

How LONG should this TAKE? We are taking fresh faced boys and girls from "Everywhere U.S.A" and giving them what, 4 months or so of training, to send to Iraq to train men who evidently aren't capable of learning in 3 years worth of on-the-job training?

I know that some of the countries not participating in the occupation of Iraq, such as France and Germany, have offered to take the Iraqi recruits out-of-country to train them, but the Village Idiot and his minions won't have any part of it. WHY? (I mean other than the fact that he IS the Village Idiot.)

We keep losing our children to a "training mission" and the trainees aren't capable of being TRAINED? Or could it be that how many are trained has nothing to DO with anything and maybe the occupation IS the long-term plan. Anyway, it is as if the entire population of Iraq has no more brains than George W. Bush!! Untrainable, unattentive, unwilling to learn anything new, and unable to do anything for themselves!

The Bush Facist Party, told us before going in, that doing so would lower oil prices. That oil would pay for the war and reconstruction. That it was going to be a very quick and fairly easy junket into a very backward country. Not to mention, WMD's , et al. Nothing else has been true, and of course, they are at ZERO credibility.

Our kids shouldn't be hanging around trying to train people who will surely someday become our enemies. (See al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden).

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. Longer than it took us to teach them to hate us with their dying

breaths.

[Jacobin]

2. Here's the problem

An army has to be willing to sacrifice its life in defense of its country.

We are asking the Iraqi army to sacrifice its life in defense of the occupation picked leaders (yea, right democracy, BULLSHIT, we said who could run and who couldn't).

Those joining are getting some money (70 percent unemployment, people are hungry) and military training and guns and most who have joined likely leave and join the insurgency to kick the invading hordes (US) out.

It'll never ever ever ever ever ever ever work. See: Viet Nam

[NativeTexan]

4. You Betcha!

It is all from the same bag of lies!

[radfringe]

19. the longer it takes to "train 'em"

the more money the training contractor makes...

easier question would be "How many Iraqis does it take to change a lightbulb?"

[electron_blue]

3. Haven't you figured out that this was all a lie?

They have no intention of ever leaving Iraq.

I quit being outraged about this years ago once I figured that out. Just trying to be helpful.

[Drum]

5. In the words of Dick Cheney,

It depends how hard you throw them.

[Betsy Ross]

6. I'm sorry

This could be the straight line replacing how many (?) does it take to screw in a lightbulb.

[NativeTexan]

7. Betsy, me thinks you may be right!!!

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Forever and a day, if they aren't committed to their own cause.

Loooooong after Bush/Cheney are living large off the profits of this war.

[NativeTexan]

9. That is if THEY are truly the problem here......

...wouldn't you say? And if they ARE the problem, then after we re-take Congress this January, we need to planning on leaving! Along with investigating, impeaching, and undoing the mess that the Repugs have left us in!!

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. Supposedly the most time consuming part

of training any military is establishing a strong disciplined and effective officer corp. Soldiers are comparatively easy to train, but a high percentage of officers are "lifers", and their training takes place over a number of years. Just repeating what I've been told.

[NativeTexan]

11. I understand......but THREE YEARS?

I think we aren't TRYING to hard. We ain't in no hurry to leave, I'm guessing.

[Tom Rinaldo]

15. Yeah, there IS that fortress embassy that Bush had built n/t

[dflprincess]

12. This is just another old song with new words

35 years ago we kept hearing about the "Vietnamzation" of that war - meaning that South Vietnamese troops were being trained to take over the fighting. It never happened.

[NativeTexan]

13. Exactly, princess!

And our kids are close to being in combat in Iraq longer than we were in combat in Korea. Ted Kennedy mentioned that today. He also pointed out that we aren't far away from matching World War II!

[leftofthedial]

14. It will take six months less than Saudi Arabia's

oil supply will last.

[leesa]

16. You can't train Iraqis to kill other Iraqis in an illegal war..ain't gonna

happen. Al Qaeda and OBL are a bullshit conjob designed to get Americans lined up behind this war crime.

Nor does launching an illegal and immoral war justify the notion of the US stealing Iraqi oil to PAY for the illegal/immoral war. The "the war was supposed to be payed for by Iraqi oil" is one of the sickest things I hear Americans say.

[NativeTexan]

18. The problem is..........

....Al Qaeda and OBL have nothing to DO with Iraq.....never have. Going after THEM should be our cause!

[TankLV]

17. Aparetly as long as the REPUKES need it as a political wedge issue.

Stong on security crap and all that.

I should think this war - or is it not a war - should go on for - oh - another twenty years or so.

You know, nobody can DARE to criticize a "war criminal" - opps - I mean a "war time" pResident!

[Skittles]

20. some of the kids training them got six weeks training

yup

[zann725]

21. Remind me of the:..How many (whatever) does it take to screw in light bulb

If so, the answer might be...'FIRST they must have constantly-running electricity.' Otherwise, why bother?

[NativeTexan]

22. Good Point!