Huckabee-Colbert ?

[Catchawave]

The audience went wild. Did anyone catch this?

[MaggieSwanson]

1. .

edited to remove stupid comment.

:hi:

[MaggieSwanson]

2. I saw it

Colbert as veep would be hella fun.

[Dr.Phool]

7. He can't be veep!!!!

It's gotta be Colbert-Huckabee. I just registered the domain name yesterday.

www.stephencolbertforpresident.com

It's parked right now on a site I'm not using right now.

[ShortnFiery]

3. Yes, it was fun ... they talked about his "health" initiatives

The guy lost over 100 pounds.

Democrat or Republican, that's one excellent accomplishment. :applause:

I enjoyed the interview. As far as Republicans go, I could deal with this one just fine if we steered away from the hot-button topics. ;)

[Rose Siding]

6. Those topics don't go away after one appearance

In the last month alone, he's blackballed liberal press from his briefings and PR mail, personally vouched for Gitmo, and was overridden on a veto that would have cut science money from public schools.

[ShortnFiery]

9. You don't say? That reminds me why I always keep it light with

my right wing neighbors. So many people can come across as "A OK" on the surface.

Well, that pisses off the rabid right wingers out for his skull even more, i.e., Cobert's staying in character. Too cool. ;)

[deaniac21]

12. Actually the argument was whether the money for science in

the public schools should come from the General Fund. The Legislature voted to take the money from a fund for state funds for college scholarships. I'll have to give him a pass on that one.

[Renew Deal]

4. Now that's a ticket I can support

:evilgrin:

Seriously though... Which brand of puke is Huckabe? Wingnut, theocon, neocon, conservative, businessman? Which is it?

[Buzz Clik]

5. Theocon.

[Dr.Phool]

8. He's a definite wing-nut theocon

But tonight he came across as very likable. But don't trust him.

[sinkingfeeling]

10. I think that would be like oil and water. My gov, Huck, is a certified

Baptist minister of the Southern Baptist type. You gettin' any clues?

[Jai4WKC08]

11. He heads an anti-abortion PAC too

I actually know Southern Baptists (or did when I lived in GA) who were not particularly conservative. That was before the nutjobs took over the central body of the denomination, but I gotta think moderate to liberal Southern Baptists are still out there. However, Huckabee is NOT one of them.

I also knew a Baptist (but not Southern Baptist) chaplain in the military who was pro-choice -- very anti-abortion, but didn't think it is a govt function to regulate. He was about as decent an individual as you would ever want to meet.

For that matter, Wes Clark was raised Southern Baptist. It's where he got his progressive values, altho I would imagine they were further developed in the military, hard as that is for some to accept.

My only point is that Baptists often get a bad rap. They're not all bad. In fact, once upon a time, Baptists were probably the single Christian denomination MOST dedicated to keeping a wall between church and state. Many Baptists still believe in it.

But I say again, Huckabee is not one of them. And to tell the truth, he scares me as much if not more than any potential Repub nominee being considered. He's positively charming. He looks good. His "story" will appeal to people who have weight problems (and that's a LOT of Americans). He's conservative enough to attract traditional Republicans, but is also in bed with the religious right. And he's a two-term southern governor, which is as much of an advantage for one of them as it would be for one of us -- executive experience, and no Senate record to pick apart.

And he would be every bit as dangerous a president as GWBush. Maybe worse, because he's smarter.

[lastliberalintexas]

13. Sorry to disappoint you

But moderate SB's have been driven from the church in droves. Heck, even some conservatives I know have left the SBC saying that they've gone too far! I'd be very surprised if there really were any moderates left in the SBC.

The other Baptist orgs are not too bad, which explains the chaplain of whom you speak.

[Jai4WKC08]

14. Well, that is a dissappointment

I dunno. It's been a very LONG time since I lived in the South, being the military for 20+ years and then retiring in KS. But it's hard to imaging the typical Southerner I knew leaving their church just because the national organization has gone so wacko. So many don't really pay much attention to that level; if they like the preacher and the fellowship of the other members, I'd think they'd still be there. But I'm not qualified to say, so I'll take your word for it.

Doesn't change a damn thing about Huckabee tho. ;)

[lastliberalintexas]

15. It is sad

Although the origins of the SBC were not in any way progressive, it did grow in to a fairly liberal church. Even into the 1980s, the SBC was not opposed to abortion in the first trimester, rarely if ever said anything about prayer in school, etc.

Then the moral majority nutcases took over, and the SBC veered very sharply to the far right. And unfortunately, it wasn't just the national organization. The local churches have gotten on board with the direction that the SBC has taken, and are some of the most openly political organizations in the South. Preachers have very blatantly told their congregations to vote for republicans, but of course nothing has been done to them. A friend of mine left the SBC because his preacher said one Sunday that "you can't be a liberal and a Christian, the 2 are mutually exclusive." Almost an exact quote, if not exact.

And that instance is not an isolated one, unfortunately. There have been well documented instances of SBC churches openly politicking, most if not all SBC churches distribute the CC Voting Guide, and the SBC churches are some of the most vocal proponents of the Armageddon scenario that is Bush's foreign policy.

Be glad you escaped the SBC's influence! :)

And yes, Huckabee is a right winger too. Surprised that he came off as well as he did last night.

[Jai4WKC08]

16. Evidence Huckabee is a lot like Bush

If he doesn't like the way a media source covers his administration, he just cuts off their access.

In a press release from the the Association of Alternative Newsweeklies at
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-04-2006/0004354804&EDATE=

WASHINGTON, May 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee recently purged the Arkansas Times - the largest weekly newspaper in Arkansas and a respected member of the Association of Alternative Newsweeklies (AAN)- from his official press e-mail list...

AAN's reply to Huckabee:

May 4, 2006

The Honorable Mike Huckabee
Governor's Office
State Capitol Room 250
Little Rock, Arkansas 72201

Dear Governor Huckabee:

We were dismayed to read your statement yesterday in response to the
negative publicity your office has received since it purged Arkansas Times
from the e-mail list used to disseminate public information to the media.
The statement was littered with misinformation and was clearly intended to
divert attention from the real issues raised by your administration's
wrongful decision to ostracize the Times, a member in good standing of our
organization.

Contrary to your assertions, the journalists working at the Times are
not seeking "special treatment"; they are not asking for "personal notice
with every issuance of a press release or public schedule" or "every time
(you) conduct interviews with members of the press"; and they are not
requesting that you "call them whenever (you) happen to return a phone call
from a reporter or invite members of the media to a briefing on a
particular issue."

They are simply asking to be treated the same way that your
administration treats other news-gathering organizations that cover the
capitol.

The Times -- an award-winning weekly newspaper with the fourth largest
circulation of all the newspapers in Arkansas -- has regularly received
e-mail alerts from the governor's office. These same notifications are
provided to other media outlets all over your great state. Your office
arbitrarily took the Times off the list last week and has yet to provide a
reasonable explanation for that decision.

It is clear from your derogatory comments about the Times and its
editor that you disagree with what the paper has written about your
administration. Despite your disagreements, however, as a public official
you are legally forbidden from blackballing the paper based on its
political content.

By coincidence, our annual convention will be held next month in Little
Rock. We are hopeful that by the time we arrive you will have taken the
high road and put the Arkansas Times back on your official e-mail list.

Kenneth Neill
President

Also from the release (but not really related):

By coincidence, the membership of the Association of Alternative Newsweeklies will convene in Little Rock next month for its annual convention. Scheduled speakers include President Bill Clinton, General Wesley Clark (USA retired), and Republican Political Consultant Bill Vickery.

Sounds like a fun and interesting event. Sure wish I could attend.