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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:19 PM
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See Ray McGovern in "Uncovered: The Whole Truth" Video ONLINE! +Zahnnnnn!

To go up against Rummy to his face means this guy gets the first "Colbert Award" for BIG BALLS after Stephen stepped up to the plate at the Press dinner and hit the bullshit right out of the park!

Now Ray McGovern is next in the rotation and took that other liar-in-chief to the cleaners!



Watch Ray in the MUST SEE video online at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6423.htm
(You can download it from there too)

From November 2003, it's 56 minutes JAM-PACKED, alternating between the LIES from the administration, and the TRUTH from a whole host of stable, cogent INSIDERS from the CIA, to the military, to the National Security Council, to the State Department to the Special Forces and more.

The Experts (read about any of them at http://www.truthuncovered.com/interviews.php)

David Albright | Robert Baer | Milt Bearden | Rand Beers | Bill Christison | David Corn | Philip Coyle | John Dean | Patrick Eddington | Chas Freeman | Graham Fuller | Mel Goodman | Larry C. Johnson | Dr. David Kay | John Brady Kiesling | Karen Kwiatkowski | Patrick Lang | Dr. David C. MacMichael | Ray McGovern | Scott Ritter | The Rt Honorable Clare Short | Stansfield Turner | The Honorable Henry Waxman | Thomas E. White | Joseph C. Wilson | Colonel Mary Ann Wright | Peter Zimmerman

The website for the film (http://www.truthuncovered.com/) has a newsflash talking about Ray:

"IMPOSSIBLE TO DISMISS." -Baltimore Sun
NEWS FLASH, MAY 4 2006: Ray McGovern, featured in this film, publicly confronts Donald Rumsfeld on his claims to know where the (non-existent) WMD's were in Iraq. Watch the video. It is incredible.
In his documentary feature, UNCOVERED: The War on Iraq, filmmaker Robert Greenwald chronicles the Bush Administration's determined quest to invade Iraq following the events of September 11, 2001. The film deconstructs the administration's case for war through interviews with U.S intelligence and defense officials, foreign service experts, and U.N. weapons inspectors -- including a former CIA director, a former ambassador to Saudi Arabia and even President Bush's Secretary of the Army. Their analyses and conclusions are sobering, and often disturbing, regardless of one's political affiliations.

Since this film was first released in November 2003 via thousands of house parties organized by MoveOn.org, the issues addressed have become well known, and the arguments made by the experts in the film have been proven. Most recently, by the Downing Street Memos.

This is an important film documenting exactly how the Bush administration hoodwinked the American people into supporting an unnecessary war. A war that has claimed tens of thousands of lives, and continues today.

Read why the director, Robert Greenwald, decided to . See the timeline of the Bush Administration's justification for war, images and excerpts from the film, or http://www.truthuncovered.com/UNCOVEREDtranscript.pdf">the complete transcript(pdf) <RIGHT CLICK on the transcript and choose "Save Target As..." to save it to your own computer to read or print>.

Some background on ray from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern

Raymond McGovern is a retired CIA officer and critic of President George W. Bush. McGovern was a Federal employee under seven U.S. presidents over 27 years and presented the morning intelligence briefings at the White House for many years.

Biography
McGovern was a CIA analyst from 1963 to 1990 and during the 1960s his responsibilities included analysis of Soviet policy toward Vietnam. At this time, he worked near the very top of his profession, giving direct advice to Henry Kissinger during the Nixon era. He was one of President Ronald Reagan's intelligence briefers from 1981-85 when he was in charge of preparing the President’s daily security brief. He also briefed President George Herbert Walker Bush in the White House in the 1980’s, and counts himself a personal friend of Bush Sr.

McGovern is former CIA chief for the Middle East, and a former CIA operations officer, making him a veteran of the CIA’s clandestine service, which manages the agency’s counterterrorism center, espionage and paramilitary operations.

Founded VIPS
McGovern has become an outspoken critic of the current Bush administration, and together with many other prominent former CIA agents, founded the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity or VIPS. The organization is dedicated to exposing what they believe to be the mishandling of important intelligence, specifically relating to the War in Iraq.

Views
McGovern has now become an outspoken critic of the current Bush administration, calling for President Bush's impeachment. <1> He directly criticized Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld after a speech in Atlanta, GA on May 4, 2006, accusing the Secretary of lying about the rationale for the Iraq War. <2> He is said to be suspicious of the official account of 9/11. He mentions older CIA cover ops such as the Operation Ajax, Operation PBSUCCESS, the Gulf of Tonkin while stating his suspicions on War on Terror.

He has insinuated that the West was behind the Al Askari Mosque bombing, mentioning the British officers who were earlier arrested while dressed up in Arab garb.

With 15 other individuals, he participated in a protest of torture while gagged and dressed in an orange jumpsuit, <3> and returned his Intelligence Commendation Award medallion to Congressman Pete Hoekstra, R-MI, and Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He argued that he did "not wish to be associated, however remotely, with an agency engaged in torture," and that "this is an order of magnitude different from my experiences in the past — there has been torture before, but never before has it been ordered and openly justified." <4>

He believes the CIA has bowed to pressure to alter its reports to suit the White House, and wants the agency to maintain accountability and adherence to the truth.


*** Oh and just a head's up on talking head Paula Zahn tonight. ***

She had Ray on and had the gall to ACCUSE HIM OF HAVING AN "AXE TO GRIND"!!!

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/04/pzn.01.html

ZAHN: How much of an axe do you have to grind with Secretary Rumsfeld?

MCGOVERN: It's not a matter of axes to grind. It's a matter of telling the truth.

And we pledged, in my day at the CIA, to tell it without fear or favor, to tell it like it is. And, when I see that corrupted, that is the real tragedy of this whole business.

ZAHN: There was a point where it appeared as though you were going to get kicked out.

MCGOVERN: Yes.

ZAHN: Donald Rumsfeld encouraged whoever I think had their hands on you at the time to let you stay there. Does he get any credit for that today?

MCGOVERN: At first, I thought, well, that was rather gracious.

But, then I got to thinking, I was not abusing the privilege. I was simply asking pointed questions. And for the national TV audience to see me carted away for asking Rumsfeld to explain what any objective observer would call a lie, that wouldn't have been good P.R. So, yes, I'm glad he let me stay. But I think it was for self- interested reasons.

Zahn could use a little WAG OF THE FINGER... Send a little SHAME-O-GRAM to her direct at http://us.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?19 or to her show at http://us.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?11 OR TO HER BOSS at http://us.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?39 ... And if you want to book her for your own AXE-GRINDING PARTY, here's where you can send in a request http://www.grabow.biz/Speakers/PaulaZahn.htm (heh heh).




Ray McGovern is a TRUE PATRIOT:

When the emperor has no clothes you have to have the presence of mind, and courage, to stand up and say 'the emperor has no clothes'

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:27 PM
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1. Actually, Zahn's "ax" comment . . .
Provided an opening for McGovern to zap Rumfeld again. I'd call it a softball, or even a handoff.

The media may be self-absorbed and gutless, but they can stick their fingers in the wind to test the direction.
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:59 PM
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3. Could be ... Send her a Tip of the Hat then :^)
Maybe with a little caveat like "but if you were trying something, know that we're watching..."

I'd love to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, but PZ doesn't exactly have a record of standing up for the truth.

If this is her stealthy turning point, then good for her :)

Anyone else think Paula has seen the truth-colored light shining from our patriots like Colbert and McGovern??

{B^> FMH
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:30 PM
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2. Mr. McGovern is a brave man.
He was incredibly brave today. Now, for the record I would have had the guts to get up there and confront Mr. Rumsfailed.

But I don't think I would have been able to keep my cool. I would have thrown down my paper, ran down the aisle and lunged at the creep.

McGovern is a true hero in my book.
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:55 AM
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4. A kick for Ray! n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:59 AM
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5. I have the DVD. It's great.
I love the part of the DVD when it goes from administration official to administration official quotes about WMD's and the immediate "threat" of Iraq. It's priceless and really shows how extensively they lied.
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:33 AM
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6. It is! I watched the whole thing again yesterday-- SO powerful!!
It's amazing how WRONG the administration and the GOP have been, and how much they've been able to get away with!
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