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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:25 PM
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Porter Goss resigns. Why? A roundup.
If it's Friday, it's time for an end-of-the-news-cycle embarrassing-to-the-administration story dump. Today is no different, as CIA chief Porter Goss resigned, suddenly and without warning. From the Washington Post:
CIA Director Porter J. Goss resigned today after less than two years on the job, President Bush announced at the White House.

Bush said Goss offered his resignation this morning and that "I've accepted it."

Neither the president nor Goss, who sat to Bush's right as he made the announcement in the Oval Office, gave a reason for the resignation.
While no official reason has been given, the common media narrative is that Goss is the latest victim of the West Wing "shake-up" and that he ran into friction within the agency. What isn't being said, however, is that there may be an altogether different reason for his sudden departure. As Josh Marshall notes:
Here at TPM HQ we were listening to the president's announcement. And the talking heads on CNN were speculating whether Goss's departure might be part of Josh Bolten's 'new blood' shake up in the Bush administration. I don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that Goss is neck deep in the Wilkes-Corruption-and-Hookers story that's been burbling in the background all week. We don't know definitely why Goss pulled the plug yet. But the CIA Director doesn't march over to the White House and resign, effective immediately, unless something very big is up.
"Say what?" you ask. Yep. Hookers. Allow Think Progress to catch us all up:
For more than a decade, Cunningham-linked defense contractor Brent Wilkes curried favor with lawmakers and CIA officials by hosting weekly parties at lavish hospitality suites at the Watergate and Westin hotels in Washington. Guests would gamble, socialize, and sometimes receive prostitutes; according to Harper's magazine, the festivities "began early with poker games and degenerated" into what one source described "as a 'frat party' scene - real bacchanals."

GOSS' NO. 3 ADMITS ATTENDING PARTIES: The highest-ranking CIA official to admit he attended the poker parties thrown by Wilkes is Executive Director Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, the agency's third-ranking official. (Foggo even "occasionally hosted the poker parties at his house in northern Virginia," though he denies ever seeing prostitutes at the gatherings.) Foggo's connections to Wilkes and fellow contractor Mitchell Wade are now the focus of an investigation into CIA contracts by the agency's inspector general, first made public in March. One of Wilkes' companies, Archer Logistics, won a contract to provide supplies to CIA agents in Afghanistan and Iraq despite having "no previous experience with such work, having been founded a few months before the contract was granted."

GOSS CONNECTED? Last week, Harper's magazine reported that party-goers "under intense scrutiny by the FBI are current and former lawmakers on Defense and Intelligence committees - including one person who now holds a powerful intelligence post." CIA Director Porter Goss is perhaps the only individual who fits such a description. (Goss denied the accusations through a spokesperson.) But the alleged links between Goss, Foggo, and Wilkes led some to return to questions raised when Goss initially selected Foggo to be executive director in November 2004. At the time, the decision was viewed with skepticism since Foggo's previous position was as a "midlevel procurement supervisor," and because following his unexpected selection, "Porter Goss lieutenant Patrick Murray went to then-Associate Deputy Director of Operations for Counterintelligence Mary Margaret Graham and informed her that if anything leaked about other Goss appointments - in particular, Foggo's - she would be held responsible."

Project on Government Oversight fellow Jason Vest reported last week that much of Foggo's counterintelligence file "has to do with various social encounters over the years, none of which he's been deceptive about when polygraphed, and all of which have been deemed to be of no threat to operational security - but are still the types of things that could be embarrassing for Goss and the Agency." Vest suggests the latest reports raise important questions about the "relationship between Foggo and Wilkes, and the relationship of each with Goss."
First to allude to the exploding scandal on cable news was former Republican Rep. Bob Barr. "We've seen brewing out of the congressman Duke Cunningham scandal, probably now for several months," Barr told a CNN reporter. "It's starting to reach into the CIA and that come very ... well ... like a sore that's been festering, that could very well burst out and maybe that's a reach into the top levels of the agency."

Adding fuel to the fire is the CNN report from Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre, who said:
In fact, Porter Goss was apparently supposed to attend a regularly scheduled afternoon meeting that takes place right about this time in the afternoon. The Defense Department has representatives there and, according to sources, none of the people at that meeting had any advance word that Porter Goss was going to be tendering his resignation.

So it indicates the sudden nature that this took place, and again it just fuels the speculation of what the real backstory is here. And again, nobody here seems to know. They are all all just really surprised, they had no idea this was coming. And they're really just wondering what was actually behind it.
Even Bush apologist William Kristol speculated on Fox News that the abrupt resignation came as the result of "something that popped this week." MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell went a step further, discussing the possible connection between Goss and the Cunningham scandal.

Taking another tack altogether, however, may lead this story to, of all places, Iran. And that possibility adds a deeper level of intrigue to the story, which is only beginning. So, while the servile Washington media largely avoid the true depths of Goss's sudden resignation, ask yourself the question journalists should be asking: Why?

Have you been hearing anything? If so, please add to the info dump below! Thanks.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:28 PM
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1. Kicking and SOOOOOOOOOOO nominating -- n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:31 PM
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3. Ditto.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:32 PM
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15. Double Ditto!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:36 PM
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27. Triple that Ditto
:popcorn:
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:29 PM
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2. Poker parties...hmmmm??
yup--ol Porty the Poker sure poked a lot of beaver holes at them parties..hehehhehehehhehe...
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:31 PM
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4. Texas Hold'em, no doubt.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:35 PM
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6. bitten...
by the gambling bug...a hooker's hootenanny--woo-hoo!
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:40 PM
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16. Bill Bennett wasn't at the table was he?
or is poker a dirty, morally bankrupt game? He probably prefers a more biblical game of chance, like "casting lots."
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:57 AM
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35. that and booze
a great setting for hatching up the data necessary to develope US foreign policy.
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GymGeekAus Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:32 PM
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5. Searching for info....
Has anyone said anything about the gender of the prostitutes? Duke Cunningham has a history of gay sex, after all.

I'm all for gay sex and prostitution, by the way. Like my goddess Randi Rhodes says, "whatever gets you through the day." I don't tend to lie about my associations to constituents, though.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:43 PM
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8. You have constituents? n/t
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GymGeekAus Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:48 PM
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11. Nope.
And I don't aspire to have any, either. Apparently, they're very needy. :)
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:13 PM
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23. welcoem to DU GymGeeKus!
:hi:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:35 PM
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7. Here's a couple more not sure were posted
This photograph, which I posted last week, has become only more ironic with today's news.
(http://www.warandpiece.com/)
Talk about Saturday night massacre. And Goss's close staff are almost certain to depart with him, Rep. Jane Harman just said on NPR. Will the last one left turn off the light?

Meantime, Justin hears of concerns other than Foggo, and that Goss's staff had already been putting out feelers for other jobs in the past couple weeks.

Kevin Drum has rounded up more theories.
So why did Porter Goss suddenly resign as head of the CIA? Is it because he's somehow implicated with the Brent Wilkes hooker scandal? Or does it have something to do with his deputy, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, who's already been implicated in Hookergate? Let's round up the scuttlebutt:


Laura Rozen #1: Dana Priest is on MSNBC right now saying we'll have to wait for tomorrow's paper to find out why he resigned. The Post must have called him for comment on a story running tomorrow about his involvement with Brent Wilkes.

Laura Rozen #2: I hear that when Porter Goss went to meet with Negroponte today, he didn't know he was going to be leaving the job. And that it would have been the President's decision, not Negroponte's. And that this may have to do with how Goss handled a management issue concerning Foggo.

Justin Rood: I've heard it a bit more bluntly: Goss was told to fire Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, his troublesome Executive Director, and Goss refused. That's what we're hearing now from knowledgeable sources. But there's a lot of contradictory information.

John Podhoretz: If Goss were somehow implicated in matters relating to Duke Cunningham, say, there's no way on earth Bush would have made such a friendly show of his departure. Seems more likely to me that there was some kind of showdown between Goss and Negroponte and Negroponte said, "Either he goes or I go," and there Goss went.

Time magazine: The sudden and unexpected resignation of Porter Goss as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency on Friday highlights a long bureaucratic battle that's been going on behind the scenes in Washington. Ever since John Negroponte was appointed Director of National Intelligence a year ago and given the task of coordinating the nation's myriad spy agencies, he has been diluting the power and prestige of the CIA....Earlier this week, in a little noticed move, Negroponte signaled that he would be moving still more responsibility from the CIA to his own office, including control over the analysis of terrorist groups and threats.
Take your pick. And stay tuned for further speculation.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_05/008750.php



I hear that when Porter Goss went to meet with Negroponte today, he didn't know he was going to be leaving the job. And that it would have been the President's decision, not Negroponte's. And that this may have to do with how Goss handled a management issue concerning Foggo. And perhaps with a tie in to HIPSI. And I hear that Fran Townsend has already been approached about taking Goss's job -- and turned it down. And I hear that agency folks are worried this is the end of the Agency as they know it -- Pentagon role over intelligence will only increase. "I think there's another shoe to drop," said one source. Justin Rood has more on this.

The statement put out by Goss via CIA public affairs is one of those bizarre historical documents ("distinct pleasure" ... "smooth and professional transition" ... "I am proud of the CIA's management team") for failing to hint why he's leaving, when one can imagine that some of the back story is going to come out between now and tomorrow morning.

http://www.warandpiece.com/


Sources: Foggo Was A Problem, But Not the Only One
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000566.php
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:44 PM
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9. Great brief, very helpful-- K&R!!!!
Edited on Fri May-05-06 04:45 PM by Julius Civitatus
Nice job explaining this dirty mess that, ironically, leads us back to the Watergate hotel.
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:46 PM
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10. Don't forget
... and, possibly, to Iran. This is going to get messy.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:49 PM
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12. K&R
Very intresting
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:54 PM
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13. And ...
... it's only getting more interesting!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:19 PM
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14. K&R
I'm staying tuned to TPM. Josh seems to be 'way ahead of the curve on this, as usual.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:43 PM
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17. This departure..
... came suddenly and caught the talking-point creators off guard. I don't believe for a SECOND this was part of a coordinated shake up. Bullshit.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:45 PM
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18. Porter Goss
Gee what a nice guy. Too bad an innocent person got caught in a sex scandal!:eyes:

Even if that isn't what happened, it's still sad that he's leaving. He's the bestest CIA Director ever!!!!
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:59 PM
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19. Porter Goss has to be one stupid person if he took part in the Hookergate
incident at the same time that he started pissing off CIA careerists. It would have just been a matter of time before they start taking him down.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:04 PM
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21. Yeah - they've got to have BRUTAL office politics :)
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:16 PM
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22. 15 years of parties by Wilkes_ Goss and who else in that time are involved
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:21 PM
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24. he was in the House with Dukester for long time
it probably started years ago
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:30 PM
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25. Then he'd have to be really, really stupid.
To go against the CIA when you have so many skeletons in the closet. What WAS he thinking?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:42 PM
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29. that's the thing with these NeoCon bastards
their overweening arrogance and short sighted stupidity (among other things)
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:49 PM
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20. K&R
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:34 PM
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26. Well, this isn't so much an "add"
Edited on Fri May-05-06 09:37 PM by rocknation
as a memory I have of the late great DU-er Andy Stephenson. At the height of the Gannon scandal and his dozens of unexplained visits to the Bush White House, remember that he posted a story which suggested that some DC real estate companies were using their unoccupied properties for trysts between politicians and prostitutes? Maybe Fornigate isn't limited to hotels, and maybe it's not limited to FEMALE hookers!

:headbang:
rocknation
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GymGeekAus Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:39 PM
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28. Indeed, still searching for info.
Anyone know the gender of all these whores in the HookerGate scandal?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:58 PM
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30. FOUND ANDY STEPHENSON'S THREAD!
Edited on Fri May-05-06 10:48 PM by rocknation
Here's the thread! :woohoo:

Eureka, I found it!
CAPITOL CITY ESCORTS
WASHINGTON, DC 20001
(202) 589-1777

Long known to be a CIA front company. Don't ask how I know...They apparently have been involved with more than just escorts. I am doing some searches now....anyone want to jump in...feel free. I have a huntch there is something here...can't say what. Just that there is. I was told a long time ago about Capitol City Escorts. We need to milk this one...pun/no pun intended.
Andy_Stephenson

...sometimes the escorts are Active Duty military females (and males). They are asked to volunteer to attend these diplomatic functions, (sometimes a limo is sent to pick them up) to fill out the crowd and give the diplomats a large variety of people to mingle and flirt with.

Also, the escorts are told to keep their ears open for interesting gossip and conversation that the diplomats exchange among themselves...
TheDebbieDee

Trying to figure out how you run an escort service AND a real estate office from the same location.
Not_Giving_Up

The real estate office helps when you take checks or credit cards...and likely helps to launder "extra" money.
Blm

May also provide discreet, vacant locations for trysts.
Liberty Belle


:headbang:
rocknation
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:19 PM
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31. Watergate and Koreagate all had links to CIA honeytraps
Read about Operation Gemstone which Liddy suggested during Watergate and which Silent Coup, by Colodny and Gitlin, says actually took place nearby the Watergate Hotel complex (the bugging was to get at that assignation phoneline, not to go after Larry O'Brien's phones per the authors).

After Watergate, the KCIA linked Koreagate scandal broke with similar circumstances. Hmmm.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 03:17 PM
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40. Was just going through this thread and saw this, rocknation!
I do believe it's worthy of it's own thread as many probably missed it. Great finds!:thumbsup:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:49 PM
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32. Maybe what Rummy said to Ray McGovern had something to do with it....
Rummy bashed the CIA again...and again.
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ediedidcare Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:36 AM
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33. Seriously...
the key to this whole thing is....THE LIMO COMPANY!!
logs and payroll records will tell the whole story.

HA!
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Spoonerian Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 01:15 AM
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34. It must be that after all these years
he's had an epiphany of conscience and he's going to repent for his many crimes accumulated since his days as a member of the same agency assassination squads that carried out the hit on JFK.

Was Bush Spy Pick on Agency Hit Team?

Is that Porter Goss Sitting Next to Barry Seal?

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:30 AM
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36. Sickos at every level. Who woulda dreamed? heh heh heh K & R
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:12 AM
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37. Iran
Does anyone think Porter Goss was pushed out of the CIA because he would not push intelligence for the U.S. going into Iran. I figured there was something going on with Goss and Negrapoente. Before this morning I though Goss would be replaced by Negrapoente. I am beginning to think the U.S. might be going into Iran soon.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 10:05 AM
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38. K&R!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:16 AM
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39. If only it were for his activities surrounding 9-11...
I think he is just being re-assigned. I think he has done his job and now Negroponte's thug is going to step in to work on the wiretapping coup. Goss is off to another crime.

This little tidbit was in Buzzflash:
http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2006/05/porter-goss-resigned-today.html

“At the time of the attacks, ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed is at a breakfast meeting at the Capitol with the chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Senator Bob Graham (D) and Representative Porter Goss (R) (Goss is a 10-year veteran of the CIA’s clandestine operations wing). The meeting is said to last at least until the second plane hits the WTC.

Graham and Goss later co-head the joint House-Senate investigation into the 9/11 attacks, which has made headlines for saying there was no ‘smoking gun’ of Bush knowledge before 9/11. Note that Senator Graham should have been aware of a report made to his staff the previous month (see Early August 2001) that one of Mahmood’s subordinates had told a US undercover agent that the WTC would be destroyed."
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thoughttheater Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 05:54 PM
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41. Porter Goss Tongue-In-Cheek link
See my tongue-in-cheek take on the sudden resignation of Porter Goss here:

www.thoughttheater.com
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 09:59 PM
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42. They are clever aren't they!
Goal. Dismantle any intellectually honest factions of CIA. Leave only "agreeable" public servants.

Means: Appoint a CIA director who will do the job with gusto: chasing off people, firing them etc. Make sure that this person thinks it's all good, no problems whatsoever. Then, unbeknownst to the appointee, haul out some nasty stuff about his personal life. This discredits the appointee if he ever wants to snitch on you; it hurts the agency; and, it absolves you of problems that come from the appointees actions ("After all, he was a slime ball. We didn't know and we got rid of him as soon as we found out!"). This is too damn good for Bush or even Cheney. They've still got some smarties left. Wonder who?
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