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millsaps28 Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:08 AM
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Impeachment is politically nessesary
Government has a POLITICAL aspect as well as a policy/governing aspect. And usually you have to win at the political aspect before you are in a position to affect the policy governing aspect. This is not simply about petty revenge for the Clinton Impeachment. HAve you been paying attention for the last 10 years? It is clear that the public responds to this kind of stuff. That is why we have a republican house/senate/presidency/court system/media. Remember the goal really was not to Indite Clinton for any crimes, the goal of impeachment was to politically cripple Clinton/the Democrats so that the Republicans would have the moral failing of the Democrats to point to. Now the incompetence and courruption of Bush and the Republicans has presented us with the same oppurtunity.
Therefore, the goal is not really any legal inditement, our goal should be the political destabalization of the Bush and the Republican party, and the quickest way to do that is through the Impeachment process.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:21 AM
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1. So where do we start........and when.
Edited on Tue May-09-06 12:22 AM by FrenchieCat
What's your "plan" to get it started......?
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GymGeekAus Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:24 AM
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2. Proceed without subpoena power?
I don't think you're gonna gain a single inch.

But if there is enough movement in the American people, we should be able to get subpoena power in November.

Then we can present clearer facts to the public.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:28 AM
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3. Agreed!
Edited on Tue May-09-06 12:29 AM by FrenchieCat
that is why I asked what OP author's plan was.....cause IF we don't win a house in the upcoming election, there will be no impeachment!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:47 AM
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4. It's also a patriotic duty.
A Constitutional requirement. The President and Vice-President are high criminals.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 01:47 AM
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5. Without an impeachment, Bush will pardon all his war criminals,
just like dear old dad did.
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adwon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 02:50 AM
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6. So, injustice for all, eh?
1. If you propose impeachment/removal solely, or even primarily, for electionerring purposes, you're no different from Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde.

2. Policy is political. The distinction between the two is fictitious.

3. Clinton's impeachment actually lost seats for the GOP in 98. To suggest that it was some great boon for Republicans is fantasy. W ran, partly, on Clinton's moral failings, not the fact that he was impeached. Had he brought it up as evidence of Democratic incompetence to govern, 2000 would not have been close in the least.
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