OH I get it! The Bible is meant to be INTERPRETED, but only in Freepsville

[pepperbear]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629261/posts

Iran (gasp) calls Bush on his PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN BS (yeah it's probably a propoganda rant designed to antagonize)but now he is hitting below the belt! As you can see, more than 1 freep decides that the GOOD BOOK is more of a pick and choose volume.

To: Warhammer
"Why is it that non-Christians feel the need to lecture Christians about Christian teachings?"

Because if we really followed them verbatim and were meek and turned the other cheek all the time, they would find it easier to take over the world and dominate us. That's why.

"Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ, the great Messenger of God ... But at the same time, have countries attacked: the lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed,"

Uh....Yep!

Obviously, he has never read the Bible. Hey, Iranian kook, look up King David, King Saul, Amelikites, etc

yeah, because those guys were all about the pre-emptive strike

and the token reasonable freeper:

Why does any religion feel the need to proselytize? Why does any religion feel it's superior to another? Why can't religion remain a personal thing?

and the only response I found to that one?

Spreading the Gospel is a key part of being a Christian.

and if I ask you nicely not to spread the good news my way? what then...can I "ignore turn the other cheek" for that one too?

Yeah guys, way to follow Jesus.

:mad:

[SammyBlue]

1. You horrible person. I went over there and read some of their

illogic.

My brain hurts! No more links to Freeptard land! Please! Urge to click is too great, then *poof* my IQ is sucked from my head.

[bluemarkers]

2. whoops

They also forget that the OT is common to Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

Polygamy is practiced by at least some Muslims, in keeping with Solomon and David, et al...

I just love it when Christians pick and choose from the Bible. Jesus first is my motto. :)

[reichstag911]

5. Jesus Frist?

Oh, my bad, I misread it. :eyes:

[mrcheerful]

6. What gets me more is the people and part of the bible they pick and chose

from isn't even christen, they are talking about jews and the jewish religion. The christen religion didn't even start until after Christ died, even christ was a jew. Christens were the people who followed christs teachings after he had died on the cross, not before.

[KyuzoGator]

3. Yeah, they tend to ignore the teachings of the peaceful liberal...

...philosopher named Jesus Christ.

Want to boil a fundie's blood? Tell them that Jesus was a liberal and then ask them to explain how he was a conservative.

[politicaholic]

4. Have you heard the good news?

"He" doesn't exist.

[AtomicKitten]

7. Exegesis is in the eye of beholder.

The Bible is a bastardized version (vis a vis centuries of manipulation) of folk stories assembled by the Catholic Church (and others) with contradictions galore. Anyone that selectively extracts passages to validate their bad behavior is an effin idiot or a charlatan praying on the effin idiots for monetary or political reasons.

[demosincebirth]

8. And you know this? any credible links?

[AtomicKitten]

9. Bible College, circa 1985, degreed.

[demosincebirth]

10. Bible College?

In the U.S., I woudld say there is about two thousand "bible colleges." Credible link to back up your assertions, pls.

[AtomicKitten]

12. let's break it down

In a nutshell. First of all, the Bible is a written document that began as several-hundred-year-old folk stories passed down by word-of-mouth. The gospels (firsthand accounts of Christ) were picked through by church higher-ups and some abandoned (i.e., the Book of Daniel and the newly discovered Book of Judas). The criteria for abandoning gospels was anything that didn't fit in with the dogma de jour (spiritualism, female goddess, etc.) Then the Bible was copied over and over and over again over the centuries by people that took liberties in translation and editorialized on the content.

You are perfectly welcome to your beliefs. Raised a Catholic, I was curious so I attended a Four Square denominational school (evangelical "holy-roller") and studied the Bible and their brand of dogma. My thesis was written proving completely opposite tenets backed up by scripture, ergo my point that exegesis is in the eye of the beholder. The Bible has been a constant thorn in humanity's side, not because of the beautiful Psalms or beatitudes or the teachings of Christ himself (which people rarely focus on), but because, as I said, it is used as a weapon of hatred and manipulation.

I went to school in San Diego.

If you want to get pissy because you disagree, that is your prerogative. However, I thoroughly studied this issue and what you see are my conclusions. I don't have the time or inclination to take you on that journey with me. Believe what you want.

[Debs]

18. Gore did post graduate work

At Vanderbilt divinity school:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/elections/2000/whitehouse/goreal/

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. Here are some links for you...

http://www.hostdiva.com/liberalchristians/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=31

[Debs]

17. If you check the

Tales of Gilgamesh you will see a version of the flood stories that far predates the bible. the Enuma Elish a version of the creation story that is pretty much the same as Genesis. I wouldnt have phrased it as the other poster did but much of the bible does seem to be taken from far more ancient sources. The Job story also occurs in Sumerian literature, wisdom literature like proverbs is of ancient lineage. Its not in any way farfetched.

[dorktv]

22. Just read the different versions out there. The ones from

Greek sources are generally pretty different then the ones from latin sources and so on.

[magellan]

11. All too true

They were still arguing about what to include and exclude from the New Testament nearly 400 years after Jesus walked the earth.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Don't laugh, but I can never pronounce this. Always comes out "Ex-Jesus"

:P

[AtomicKitten]

15. ironically applicable

The hypocrisy and hatred wielded by faux Christians turns me off in a big way, and there is much to be had these days, isn't there?

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. So true. I wonder if the mispronunciation started as a

Freudian slip on my part. *l*

[Sapere aude]

19. I've never understood how people who follow Christ use the old testement

to make their points.

"Obviously, he has never read the Bible. Hey, Iranian kook, look up King David, King Saul, Amelikites, etc"

[mondo joe]

20. And of course neither David nor Saul were followers of Jesus.

Grade F for basic failure to respond to points made!

[wiley]

21. Literalists are the bane and bitter seeds in many religions, such as

Islam and Christianity. At least some good Chritians break through and understand that Jesus ain't that player hating crap they're talking about. Few Muslims would even dare question the literalists, since they believe the Koran contains the actual words of the prophet. They are not to be interpreted. Big problem in both cases. In either, death and/or endless harrassment can be the repercussions of questioning the literalists in public or even private.

[radfringe]

23. "country should have an official religion"

at a different job, back in the 80's - that's what one co-worker told me

I asked "which religion?"

response: "christinanity of course"

me; "which version? Catholic? Lutheran? Baptist? Methodist? Episcopalian? Unitarian? Mormon? to name a few choices...."

response... uhh