I emailed Jason Leopold

[LeftNYC]

and told him that I was behind him 100% and that I knew it was a tough time for him. And that he must be going crazy as the topic has switched to him and it may become personal. I dont think he would go to the wall if he didnt have proper sourcing, or sources that he trusted. And I dont believe the MSM or the official word.

We need investigative reporters like Jason and the people at Raw Story. I don't know any of these people, but the work they do goes beyond the dictation dance that happens everyday during these white house press briefings. The work they do is hard and Jason is putting his neck on the line for his story. I appreciate that and wish we had more of the Woodward-Bernstein types these days. Woodward himself is now a prime example of why Truthout, Thinkprogress, Raw Story, AmericaBlog are so important to what we believe in and talk about all day on this site.

So drop Jason a line, and let him know that we are still here, and reading.

[Jayhawk Lib]

1. I was very excited

and then he embarrassed the hell out of me. I was wishing everybody Merry Fitzmas and found out he is not a credible source.

To hell with him.He has a responsibility to make sure of his facts before publishing. I will never trust him or Raw Story again.

[Common Sense Party]

2. Has he been PROVEN wrong on this yet?

He still stands by it. I guess we have to wait until Wednesday...

[HereSince1628]

6. Please tell me why Wednesday is a deadline?

I missed whatever provided that deadline.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

11. It's that 24 business hour thing

That's 3 regular days.

[Jacobin]

30. give or take for lunch breaks, traffic jams, coffee breaks

:eyes:

[Fridays Child]

12. According to forbes.com, the grand jury is expected to...

...meet on Wednesday.

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/05/15/ap2747060.html

[Igel]

35. But that might well be beside the point.

If the indictment's been handed up, it's handed up, and Leopold's correct.

If the GJ has to meet to hand up the indictment, it's not been handed up, and Leopold's wrong. The GJ may cover his ass and make the punchline to his story true.

Leopold worded things very strangely. It doesn't mean he's lying. He might not even be wrong.

[HereSince1628]

38. Thanks, but that seems to be interpretations and ad hoc information

to what Leopold actually wrote.

I'm skeptical of the article, but it's not fair to tag Leopold with things he didn't say or vary clearly indicate.

I don't think Leopold's article actually set up such a deadline. It seems more he said it could happen anytime after the 24 hours (whatever those 24 hours meant).

[Dora]

4. "he embarassed the hell out of me"

No, that was all you.

[LeftNYC]

20. For all the complaining that goes on on this site about

the MSM, no one seems to be believe anything unless it comes right from their mouth. Unbelievable!

[Catherine Vincent]

24. Don't blame Mr. Leopold for your embarrasment.

[LeftNYC]

26. What are you talking about? nt

[Scout1071]

34. Come on man, please don't embarrass the Jayhawk name.

That is all.

[Clark2008]

45. What does Raw Story have to do with Jason Leopold?

:shrug:

[Xeric]

3. I will email him

Just as soon as the story turns out to be true.

[brentspeak]

5. I don't understand. How does Leopold running with a story like this

do anyone any good in the first place? If Rove is to be indicted, then Patrick Fitzgerald will make that announcement. It's that simple. There is no need for any "investigative reporting" on this issue. If anything, I would expect people to be ticked off at Leopold for teasing them along like this for absolutely no other reason than to gain attention for himself.

[Fridays Child]

7. How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Leopold broke this story "for absolutely no other reason than to gain attention for himself?" In all seriousness, what evidence do you have for such a statement?

[corbett]

36. Journalists Break News - That's Part Of Their Job

Leopold is a real journalist and I have full confidence in his procedure of checking, rechecking and checking his sources again.

[benburch]

8. Wow.

I guess you are content to wait and get your news from the Encyclopedia then?

[brentspeak]

9. You answered my question

with a question. That's not an answer.

Answer the question: How does Leopold running with a story like this do anyone any good in the first place?

[benburch]

13. Because information (if true) is always important to have in advance.

Because this way one can plan.

For example, if you have a radio network, you can take a scoop like this and use it to line up contingency guests.

[brentspeak]

16. So that one can, er...plan.

Now I get it: Knowing about a hypothetical Fitzgerald announcement a few hours in advance will strike a blow for station managers everywhere.

[benburch]

23. It helped us.

Thats all I can speak to.

[sheelz]

49. Randi Rhodes announced it on her program...

right after the story broke and she had no contingency guests lined up. She simply reported what she heard. I don't believe she has lined up amy guest, before or after the story broke.

Who would you invite other than Leopold?

[Redbear]

17. Many of us care about what people close to the case are saying.

Additionally, much of what we "know" does not come from official channels. We will never get all the relevant information that way.

I agree with the OP.

[brentspeak]

19. You don't think that Fitzgerald will tell the world if Rove gets indicted?

[valerief]

31. The media tells us. Fitzgerald tells them. Will the M$M tell us?

Or is Jason our only source?

[valerief]

32. The media tells us. Fitzgerald tells them. Will the M$M tell us?

Or is Jason our only source?

[Fridays Child]

22. Isn't *reporting* what *reporters* are supposed to do?

[LeftNYC]

25. Brent doesnt believe in reporters I guess

He wants people to recite information instead. I guess we could have waited to find out about Watergate, um, never?

[coalition_unwilling]

40. It fucking made my weekend, I can tell you that much.

I heard him on KPFK on "Background Briefing with Ian Masters" on Sunday and the story sounds legit. I do remember thinking that the "24 business hours" sounded a little off-key. But please remember that Leopold didn't coin the phrase, he reported what his sources told him.

[0007]

14. ....or the latest addition of the Farmers Almanac

[northamericancitizen]

10. After reading many of your posts on the TO story

I am wandering what your intentions are. Cause IMHO it looks like your goal is to badmouth honest journalists.

I will not read your justifications (I am not masochistic).

Sadly, for the first time in 2 years, I will use the Ignore button.

northamericancitizen

[LeftNYC]

18. So we shouldnt have any media? nt

[Clarkie1]

43. You are exactly right. n/t

[bigbrother05]

15. LeftNYC, how quickly people turn over

it amazes me that here on DU, change their mind in an instant.
I'm sure Jason has suffered enough from this stupidity. And I'm sure he would not have released the story,
without credible sources. He explained the 24 working hours.
This is good news for us, and we have to be patient.
thanks for posting

[LeftNYC]

21. People on here are amazing to me...

they bitch and moan about the corporate media, but dont trust independent media until the results are solidified by one of the Big 3. Unbelievable. Would they have reacted, at the time, the same way if Leopold wrote that what Judy Miller wrote about WMD was untrue ?

Unbelievable!

[FARAFIELD]

27. SCREW JASON

People forget he was wrong last time about Rove being indicted along with Libby. Ill believe it when i see it. He is nothing but our left wing drudge. It should be a good place to go to get stories of interest. But you only have to be wrong a time or two to get on my list. And no matter how good a guy he is, writing something you want to be true doesnt make it so.

[LeftNYC]

28. I guess we should scree Larry Johnson too. He has similar info as Jason..

(empty)

[benburch]

29. Link?

Thanks!

[LeftNYC]

33. didnt he post on here saying that Joe Wilson go that info

and that he heard from a source. I am being a dick. I just dont have time to go hunt it down.

[benburch]

37. OK, I'll see if I can find it. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

39. Here it is...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1183853

[benburch]

41. Thanks! nt

[LeftNYC]

44. sorry Ben...I know it was on here earlier. I think LJ put it on his site.

[FARAFIELD]

47. LARRY JOHNSON

Has never been wrong. LJ never has reported a story about ROves Indictment either. so get your facts strait.

[Clarkie1]

42. Leopold is no "Woodward-Bernstein" type.

You give him too much credit. He blew it, and he's lost a lot of credibility.

It's not the first time. I will not trust anything from his pen again.

[Marnieworld]

46. What's his email address?

I have always thought that Jason Leopold has had the best coverage and information around about this case. His work has always been ahead of the curve and in depth. I've had a habit of getting excited every time that I see that there's a new article of his about Plamegate. So I was definitely excited over the weekend and I still am.

People around here need to take a breath and keep things in perspective. Of course the little details are subject to change like dates and deadlines. But the central point is that an indictment is in the works and it will be official very shortly. This same sort of thing happened around the Libby indictment where we were all waiting for "Fitzmas" and it was torture considering all of the warnings about a coming indictment. I think I remember it was Raw Story then that teased us and revved us all up about 10 days too soon. Yet Libby was indicted and we know the rest.

Sources say what they know or believe they know. They probably are also repeating rumor and speculation. I recall that some sources are in the WH so if they have wrong info that's what they are leaking and he'll have his revenge I'm sure.

The whole point of it all is that Rove is very close to indictment and we should all enjoy the show whether it happens this week or next we can say for certain that he is under pressure.

No more Scotty at the WH. Rove's policy demotion, his weight loss. This is all in preparation for what they know is coming. Now they know what people in NOLA felt as they saw Katrina approaching and they couldn't leave its path.

MSM sucks and they lie all of the time. Blogs like Raw Story Truthout etc, may not be perfect but at least you know that they are trying to what's right. Let's not eat our own people.

[sheelz]

48. If you want support Leopold

why aren't you engaging in a massive email/calling campaign to the MSM and asking why they aren't reporting this important story?

Perhaps, Leopold could ask one or several sources to contact MSM with their information. Or ask other progressive investigative reporters to join?!

:think: