Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

My response to a RW "apology"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:27 PM
Original message
My response to a RW "apology"
This is from a message board I frequent. First, the column in question:

http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/listingsEntry.asp?ID=432586&PT=McIntyre+in+the+Morning

Excerpts:

There’s nothing harder in public life than admitting you’re wrong. By the way, admitting you’re wrong can be even tougher in private life. If you don’t believe me, just ask Bill Clinton or Charlie Sheen. But when you go out on the limb in public, it’s out there where everyone can see it, or in my case, hear it.

So, I’m saying today, I was wrong to have voted for George W. Bush. In historic terms, I believe George W. Bush is the worst two-term President in the history of the country. Worse than Grant. I also believe a case can be made that he’s the worst President, period.


The tickler:
In 2000, I was a McCain guy. I wasn’t sure about the Texas Governor. He had name recognition and a lot of money behind him, but other than that? What? Still, I was sick of all the Clinton shenanigans and the thought of President Gore was… unthinkable. So, GWB became my guy.

For the first few months he was just flubbing along like most new Presidents, no great shakes, but no disasters either. He cut taxes and I like tax cuts.


The clincher:
None of this, by the way, should be interpreted as an endorsement of the opposition party. The Democrats are equally bankrupt.

The usual line. :shrug:

My response:

That column is a load of crap.

He starts off with the typical Republican meaningless "mea culpa" and goes on to spout the typical rhetoric designed to keep power.

He says he's sorry he voted for Bush and extols John McCain as "his guy." What did he say when Rove switfboated McCain with his dirty rumors about his "black love child" the South Carolina primary? Turns out the kid was a refugee his wife and he adopted to save. Yeah, the guy shows good christian values and his own party kneecaps him for it.

Meanwhile, the choice in 2000 was Bush/Gore, and anybody who says he's sorry about voting for Bush and then tries to say "but Gore would have been worse" is drinking the kool-aid, just a different flavor.

Yes, Gore could have found Afghanistan on a map, and most likely wouldn't have needed someone to point it out to him. No, he wouldn't have invaded Iraq, because is was not, and was never either necessary or a good idea. Gore is smarter than Shrub ever hoped to be. I suspect he actually paid attention in college.

Quite frankly, I'm not convinced that 9/11 would have happened if Gore had been pres. And I'm quite sure he would have handled it better. The Bush plan seems to be, time after time, fail, then spin the outcome as someone else's fault. Like the peeps who still blame Clinton for 9/11, when it was their hero Bush who was asleep at the wheel. He had 7 or 8 months to work on preventing it, and failed. Yes, he failed.

Ralph Nader? C'mon. He would have never won an election and everybody knows it. Perhaps the major parties could learn some things from him, assuming they CAN learn anything ;) , but he is and will always be a fringe candidate. Any support for him by a Republican is an attempt to wean voters from Democrats.

It's desperation time for most Republicans. Despite all of their attempts to say differently, the Abramoff scandal is a Republican scandal. No democrat has been proven to accept money directly from Abramoff's organization. Meanwhile, the investigation continues, and is reaching pretty high up in the WH.

The kicker, of course, is this old standby:

None of this, by the way, should be interpreted as an endorsement of the opposition party.

Yep, the same old line. We were bad, but the other guys are the same or worse. Blah, blah, blah. Load of crap, IMO.

I'm just curious. The R's have had control of Congress since 1994, the Senate for most of that time, and the White House for 5 years now. How can anybody state with any credibility that the Dems are worse when they can't get a word in? The R's control all of the committees, they changed ethics rules to protect their own rulebreakers, they refuse to hold the WH accountable for anything, thus abrogating their Constitutionally assigned authority of oversight. The supposed "left wing liberal press" quotes the administration without question and only breaks "bad" stories when they absolutely have to.

Once again, we get the old right wing scam. "I know we kinda screwed up, but the other guy is worse, so give us one more chance. See, I said I'm sorry. I won't do it again. Just give me one more chance. Ple-e-e-e-e-e-ease." :puke

Remember the thread from Todd about his suicidal friend, and how he had to 'get tough' with him to protect his own family? How is the love affair for this President and his Republican cronies still there?

I reject this guy's apology outright. He's nothing but an enabler for the corruption and power brokering that the Republican party represents. Screw 'em, I say.


BTW, here's the thread addy:

http://mb14.scout.com/fseahawksinsiderfrm6.showMessage?topicID=2481.topic
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
1. "You know, ALL the politicans are corrupt, inept, etc..."
Kinda like admitting he was wrong, but not really?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. yeah
standard low-skill political debate. "Well, ALL politicians are scum"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:31 PM
Response to Original message
2. Re:
If you don’t believe me, just ask Bill Clinton or Charlie Sheen.


(sigh) Is there ever a time when they don't pull out Bill Clinton? It's very tiresome.

The Democrats are equally bankrupt.


Yeah, because we're the ones who have been abridging the Constitution, torturing people and wiretapping innocent Americans.

Yep, the same old line. We were bad, but the other guys are the same or worse. Blah, blah, blah. Load of crap, IMO.


Exactly. The whole thing's a load of crap. "Apology" not accepted.
Ringo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
4. My response to the article?
Go fuck yourself.

"He cut taxes." THAT was why he sold our nation to this asshole. Literally sold it.

I don't accept his apology, and hold him personally responsible for his greed and short-sightedness killing so many people.

Fuck him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
5. "None of this, by the way, should be interpreted as an endorsement
Edited on Fri May-19-06 07:49 PM by linazelle
of the opposition party. The Democrats are equally bankrupt."

Gee, all of the recent Republican regrets have been tagged with this byline.

Sounds like they are in lockstep again--chasing Bush's fleeing base and planting seeds of doubt along the way.

Same remark in this thread:
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2633844&mesg_id=2633844
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 10th 2024, 06:19 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC