Brooks/NY Times - Base has turned on Bush

[MissWaverly]

this is from tonights PBS Lehrer Newshour analysis with Mark Shields and David Brooks

But when you're up, you feel a sense of personal psychological triumph over the miserable lefties who are down.

And once you get in that back-and-forth, then I think, in theory, you can have a debate. But the reason I think it's still unlikely is that one of the big thing that happened, especially this week, but over the last couple of weeks, is the Republican base has turned on the president and turned on him in a big way.

And I think they went into that speech on Monday night looking for things to hate, not believing anything he said that they liked. And a lot of it is displaced anger, anger about other things that they can now express about this. So that's just created this huge rift. It will take awhile to get that healed.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june06/sb_05-19.html

[wtmusic]

1. Everyone in Bushie's base needs to look in the mirror

to find the problem. He's doing exactly what he said he would.

[MissWaverly]

3. well, I thought Karl was still saying it was still the loveboat

for Bush in the Republican Party, just those crazy liberals and independent voters, who
pays attention to them!!!!

HA, HA!!

[OKDem08]

2. Displaced anger...

that is precisely what I was thinking earlier w/regard to the immigration issue. They could not verbalize opposition to the war because that would place them in the same camp as the despised peace activists. Anger has to find an object and seldom rests until it does.

[MissWaverly]

4. I think the spin cycle is over, now it's time for the rinse cycle

how did it go from a consensus to a "huge rift"

[TomInTib]

5. 'it's like walking through a hailstorm'

JIM LEHRER: And so there is no heat coming from the base, as they say, to Washington to the House, to say, "Hey, go with the president on this." In fact, just the opposite?

DAVID BROOKS: Absolutely the opposite. And the people, the Republicans who are with the president, it's like walking through a hailstorm. They're hunkered down; they're miserable.

MARK SHIELDS: Let me just agree with David in great part. I think that I've never heard the conservatives, both elected and unelected, react in such a vocal, vehement, even venomous way toward the president. I mean, they were really -- you know, they almost took perverse delight in scolding him.

I mean, Sensenbrenner, for example, used this phrase, "I don't think he gets it." Now, there's a more dismissive phrase in the language than, "You don't get it."


I absolutely loved that segment tonight.

[MissWaverly]

6. weren't you surprised by David Brooks

he bills himself as Mr. Sunshine, he never has said anything this negative about alienation of
the Republican base that I can remember.

[TomInTib]

7. I think he lost those glasses he has been wearing.

You know, the rose-tinted ones.

He has had a few come-to-Jesus moments of late.

Reality check.

[MissWaverly]

8. Those hail stones can really hurt!

I wonder if it had anything to do with the Republicans losing in Chester County, PA. The
epicenter for the Republican conservative base.

[tanyev]

13. It must have caused him great pain to say that.

Alka-Seltzer!

[LibertyorDeath]

9. McCain still loves him.....

[MissWaverly]

10. I wonder how the corporations are feeling right now

they see the damage of this NSA thing for the telcos, I am sure there are lots of dirty deals
that have been done dirt cheap.

[LibertyorDeath]

11. Yes the NSA spying on millions of Americans is just the tip of the

fascist iceberg imo

They've got big plans for us

[MissWaverly]

12. I don't think there is a big plan, I think it was cash & carry

you give me cash and I will carry out your agenda, no epa, no fda, no osha fine, we'll take
care of it.