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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:51 PM
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Asking a BIG favour, fellow DUers ...
Edited on Sat May-20-06 07:57 PM by NanceGreggs
The details of the US Embassy currently being built in Baghdad are finally beginning to trickle out, and this obscenity (currently budgeted at around $600,000,000 plus) is an outrage, as you will no doubt agree.

Below is a letter I have just sent to Senator Richard Lugar, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee that has oversight of this project. This story has been kept quiet by the administration, allegedly for 'national security' reasons -- even though it is widely known throughout Iraq and the ME.

We all know why this story is being quashed; this type of expenditure (at the taxpayers' expense, of course) will OUTRAGE American citizens, something the GOP (who voted this crap into existence) don't want publicized in the lead-up to mid-term elections.

While I realize that Lugar is not the only guilty party in this debacle, I think it best to attack one person rather than dilute our outrage by sending letters, faxes, emails, etc, to any number of parties.

The favour I am asking is two-fold:
(1) Please send an email, letter, fax or phone message to Lugar's office expressing your anger in no uncertain terms. Google 'US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations' for email/snail-mail addresses and the phone number.

(2) Please cross-post either the letter below, or one of your own creation, to every website you normally frequent, asking the posters there to again cross-post to every website they frequent, with the same request -- you get the idea, a chain-letter effect that will spread this story across the internet within a matter of days.

Never forget the lesson we learned with the Stephen Colbert story: We ARE the MEDIA. We have the power to make the MSM take notice by the sheer numbers we represent.

I know there are a million stories out there that touch Americans, and bring them to a boil-over point of anger. I think THIS is one of those stories. So I humbly ask for your help in spreading the word.




The Honorable Richard G. Lugar
Chairman, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Dear Sir:

I have been reading the news stories about the American Embassy being built in Baghdad, Iraq, and I understand that the committee you chair has oversight of this project.

First, I wanted to personally thank you and your fellow Republicans for appropriating the funds necessary ($592,000,000 thus far) to bring this incredible undertaking to fruition. Second, I am sure that under your fine committee leadership, the outcome will be something truly spectacular.

When I first learned of the billions of dollars being spent on the War in Iraq, I feared that much of it would be frittered away on things like body armor for our soldiers, or uncontaminated water for their personal use. I now see that my fears were baseless, and the hard-earned money of already financially-strapped American citizens is being disbursed with the fiscal responsibility the Republican party rightfully takes such pride in.

What better way to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people than to build a palace in their midst? I am sure they appreciate the fact that the monies budgeted for rebuilding their hospitals, their schools, and the infrastructure that we destroyed during their “liberation” have been allocated to a much more majestic purpose.

As Iraqis go about their daily routine of trying to locate potable water, as they walk back to their homes to enjoy their few hours of electrical power, no doubt they will stop and admire this beautiful structure that offers the safety and comfort of its own electrical generator and water purification system! Who wouldn’t be impressed with our legendary Yankee know-how?

I am especially pleased that the major portion of this contract was awarded to First Kuwaiti General Trading & Contracting, a subcontractor of Halliburton’s Kellogg, Brown and Root. The reports I have read indicate that this company is a novice in the area of building embassies, and it is heartwarming to know that new companies are being given opportunities of this magnitude. Of course, there are also disturbing reports about their inhumane treatment of workers, but we have to expect a few glitches when a fledgling company spreads its wings, don’t we?

I have also read some interviews with the residents of Baghdad, and they seem to mistakenly believe that the prime real estate our embassy will occupy was simply appropriated without recompense to the citizens of Iraq. Well, I know that can’t be true. Americans would never occupy land that does not rightfully belong to them and utilize it for their own purposes, would they?

I am especially impressed with the sensitivity that has been displayed during the transition period the Iraqi people are currently undergoing after the despotic rule of Saddam Hussein. First we gave them arrests without cause, death squads, and torture – things they were used to. And now we build a palace that rivals the garishness and in-your-face expenditure of money that their former leader was famous for. What an incredible comfort that must be to the ordinary citizens who are still acclimating themselves to democracy and freedom!

I know that news stories about the new embassy are supposed to be kept quiet – for ‘national security’ reasons, I am told. But when you build something this incredible, word is bound to leak out. And the fact that the construction site is visible for miles in every direction makes discretion impossible.

Of course, I think there is another reason for keeping this whole project on the QT – you and your fellow party members are just too humble to take the credit for this endeavor!

But hiding your light under a bushel just won’t do, Senator Lugar. I will be posting this letter on several internet websites, and urging others to spread the good word. So I hope your office is prepared for the many letters of congratulation that will undoubtedly be pouring in over the next few weeks.

It is time for you and all Republicans who made this dream embassy possible to stand up and accept the accolades that are your due.

The thunderous applause you are undoubtedly about to hear will come from many quarters: the parents who failed to understand why their children in the military had to die for want of $700 worth of body armor, the thousands of Katrina victims who now understand why the government had no funds to assist them. And no doubt the Iraq War veterans whose pensions have been gutted yet again by you and your party, will now understand why priority had to be given to this desert-bound display of riches and wealth in the midst of devastation and death.

Since the reins of our leadership were assumed by George W. Bush, the peoples of the world have increasingly viewed the United States as a country of excess, misplaced ideals and values, controlled by wealthy politicians with a pig-at-the-trough mentality. I dare them to look at this soon-to-be-unveiled display of gaudiness and fetterless power and not admit their misjudgment of the current president and his Administration.

I sincerely hope that the incredible work that you and your fellow Republicans have been doing will not be overlooked by my fellow citizens when it comes time to vote in the upcoming mid-term elections.

And believe me, if I have anything to do with it, it won’t be.

With all due respect,
Nancy Greggs
Shocked-and-Awed American Citizen

For More INFO: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/3876208.html



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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:54 PM
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1. K & R. I'll do it. Great letter. What an outrageous project!!! nt.
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beingthere Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:01 PM
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2. I recommended this thread, and also think people could write local LTE's
about this outrage. It is not very widely known.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. LTTEs - GREAT IDEA!
But don't FORGET to absolutely CLOBBER Lugar's office, in addition to whatever else you do.

A hundred emails to each rep can be overlooked or downplayed - but THOUSANDS of messages pouring into one office will eventually get out there.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:04 PM
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3. Excellent letter, Nancy!
And your idea is a great one. I don't know that I can match the exquisitely deadpan sarcastic tone with which you wrote this letter (and believe me, I mean that as the HIGHEST of compliments!) but I'll do my best. Thanks!

:yourock:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #3
14. The letter I have composed is hereby the property ...
... of all DUers who are willing to fight the good fight. Feel free to cut-and-paste, add your own comments, et cetera, or use it as a template to create your own letter.
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. Posted on other boards as requested
Great suggestion, NG ... and great find, cyberpj.
:yourock:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Thanks, i miss america!
And again kudos to cyberpj for getting the ball rolling!

If only the MSM were as well-oiled a machine as DU! We have researchers, fact-checkers, editorialists -- and readers who aren't content to just READ the news, but are willing to BECOME the news!

Let's give ourselves a round of well-deserved applause ...

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Okay, now it's BACK TO WORK!

The pay here might suck, but the BENEFITS of having a voice in our own government are KICK-ASS!!!!!!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:09 PM
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4. Links:
senator_lugar@lugar.senate.gov
http://lugar.senate.gov/contact.html

Senate Foreign Relations Committee members:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/committees.tt?commid=sfore

Committee Chair
Richard G. Lugar Sen.
Richard G. Lugar (REP-IN)

Ranking Member
Joseph R. Biden Sen.
Joseph R. Biden (DEM-DE)

Republicans (10)
Sen. Chuck Hagel (REP-NE)
Sen. Lincoln Chafee (REP-RI)
Sen. George Allen (REP-VA)
Sen. Norm Coleman (REP-MN)
Sen. George Voinovich (REP-OH)
Sen. Lamar Alexander (REP-TN)
Sen. John Sununu (REP-NH)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (REP-AK)
Sen. Mel Martinez (REP-FL)

Democrats (8)
Sen. Paul Sarbanes (DEM-MD)
Sen. Christopher Dodd (DEM-CT)
Sen. John Kerry (DEM-MA)
Sen. Russ Feingold (DEM-WI)
Sen. Barbara Boxer (DEM-CA)
Sen. Bill Nelson (DEM-FL)
Sen. Barack Obama (DEM-I


Great letter Nance! Great idea!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:24 PM
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8. THANKS, vickiss!!!!!
We can DO this people, I KNOW we can.

Imagine the GOP and/or the WH having to explain to the American people WHY this embassy is necessary?

Explain away this expenditure when ordinary taxpayers (who are PAYING for this) are worried about feeding their kids, or having enough money to put gas in the car to get to work!

Explain away this billion-dollar project in downtown Baghdad to the few remaining citizens who believe WE ARE LEAVING IRAQ any time soon!

As I said, there is a REASON why this story has been kept quiet all of these months ...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #8
71. You're welcome Nance. I just wanted to give a small hand. I
read your posts with great admiration for your creativity and caring.

Thanks for all you do to educate and enlighten the masses.:toast::smoke:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. Thanks, vickiss!
And thanks to ALL of our fellow DUers who never cease to amaze us all with their generosity of heart, their kindness of spirit, and their courage to fight the good fight!

:applause: to ALL OF YOU!

And what's a :toast: without a good :smoke: !!!!!!!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
78. I have heard of this embassy for a long time and have
often wondered why we never hear about it in the media. It's like it never existed except on some left wing website. I'd ask these questions especially when the talking heads discussed when we planned on getting out of Iraq. No one ever asked if there is a civil war will we be able to have an embassy. If we get run out of Iraq...what will happen to this embassy? How can we supply it and protect it if we are no longer welcome in Iraq?

I think this is another of bush's blunders and poor estimates of what our experience in Iraq will be like. Oh hell...forget it...let's invade Iran and maybe we can do a better job and resurrect our reputation of being great conquerors and have some roses thrown in our direction.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. Thanks for the list of Committee members...
:hi:

Nance...what a FABULOUS letter. I applaud your efforts!:applause:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
72. Anytime fooj!
:hi:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:20 PM
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6. The only project in Iraq on time and on budget.
Absolutely outrageous.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:21 PM
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7. Nothing talks louder than pictures
Lets get some pictures of this taxpayer funded palace up on the net for people to see what they're paying for. Certainly this should be possible. Although I wouldn't count on the US media to publish them. Might need a local source. Aren't there some Iraqi bloggers that could snap a few pics and upload them somewhere?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Good thinking!
If anyone out there has a contact with someone currently in Baghdad, please call in whatever favours you have NOW!
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Here's a link
And let's not forget the contract was awarded to a Kuwaiti firm.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-04-19-us-embassy_x.htm
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:28 PM
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61. Mall of America and Disneyland???
Could someone please explain to me how Mall of America and Disneyland are involved in this USAToday story as sources? (See fine print at the very bottom of the picture.) Are there going to be franchises in the new embassy? :wtf:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-04-19-us-embassy_x.htm

Sources: State Department, Mall of America, Disneyland, Architect of the Capitol, wire reports and Senate Foreign Relations Committee
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #9
40. Is anybody here in contact with Dahr Jamail?
I think he moves around pretty freely over there.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:30 PM
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10. For more info on "Embassy Iraq" - I posted these 3 articles yesterday:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. And the credit is yours, cyberpj!
I came across one of your posts in the wee hours of this morning, and couldn't sleep for the outrage I felt. In my anger-generated insomnia, I concocted this plan -- and I hope it works.

Thanks for ferreting out the news items we would have otherwise missed. It is you DU researchers, who seem to have a supernatural gift for finding these things and bringing them to our attention, that make this website something remarkable!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Thanks. And I'm already working on my letter to Lugar. Great idea. nt
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. MEANWHILE... Here are some of the projects that are BEHIND SCHEDULE:
BEHIND SCHEDULE

A US Inspector General’s report into reconstruction found that although $22 billion had been spent, water, sewage and electricity, infrastructure still operated at prewar levels

Despite “significant progress” in recent months, less than half the water and electricity projects have been completed

Only six of the 150 planned health centres have been completed

US officials spent $70 million on medical equipment for health clinics that are unlikely ever to be built. More than 75 per cent of the funds for the 150 planned clinics have been allocated

Task Force Shield, the $147 million programme to train Iraqi security units to protect key oil and electrical sites failed to meet its goals. A fraud investigation is under way

Oil production was 2.18 million barrels per day in the last week of March. Before the war it was 2.6 million

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2162249,00.html
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. ATTENTION everyone currently on this thread:
Again cyberjp provides the ammunition. If you're having trouble composing a suitably outraged letter to Lugar, check above for some FACTS you can include!
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:51 PM
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18. Aaaaarrrgghhh!
This embassy is just a complete catastrophe.

Typical, typical insensitiivty, vulgarity, hubris, arrogance and stupidity. It is like these idiots are going out of their way to make a complete shit of everything.

The scary thing is that clearly NONE of them can see what a terrible idea this is. I still think the whole mission is being driven be the same PNAC-style ideology that got the US into this mess in the first place. Despite the fact that it has shown itself to be a hopeless, bankrupt failure, it just appears to trundle on.

Absolutely fucking shocking. Treasonous.

And as usual, Lily comes in handy: no matter how cynical you get, it's just impossible to keep up.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. You have just written a brilliantly-worded letter of outrage ...
... please send it to Lugar's office immediately (contact info above) and re-post your sentiments to other wesbites!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:25 PM
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22. I can't compete with your awesome letter,but I sent one,too
The Honorable Richard G. Lugar
Chairman, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
Dear Sir:
It has come to my attention that your committe is overseeing the construction of a new BILLION-dollar embassy in Iraq.I also understand that the majority of funding is going to First Kuwaiti General Trading & Contracting,a KBR and Halliburton subcontractor.You condone this senseless spending while half of the country of Iraq has no electricity,and needs hospitals and infrastructure.This has the appearance of graft,plain and simple.How many of your committee members plan to profit from this?How many soldiers have to die while we pay for this monstrosity?The Billion dollars you have petered away could have done so much good in this country and in Iraq,helping people in both countries rebuild their lives.Shame on you and your selfish colleagues.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. EXCELLENT, w8liftinglady!!!!
BTW, feeling the incredible vitriol in your letter makes me glad your on OUR side!!!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. we can extend this to the media..if they receive Thousands of
letters...they will have to cover it.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. As always, my fellow DUers ...
... ar WAY AHEAD of the GAME!

Great suggestion, w8liftinglady!!!!!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:01 PM
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25. Here are the email contacts:
http://biden.senate.gov/contact/emailjoe.cfm (Joe Biden - Ranking Committee Member)

http://hagel.senate.gov/ (Chuck Hagel)

http://chafee.senate.gov/public/ (Lincoln Chafee)

http://coleman.senate.gov/ (Norm Coleman)

http://voinovich.senate.gov/ (George Voinovich)

http://alexander.senate.gov/ (Lamar Alexander)

http://sununu.senate.gov/ (John Sununu)

http://murkowski.senate.gov/ (Lisa Murkowski)

http://martinez.senate.gov/public/ (Mel Martinez)

http://sarbanes.senate.gov/ (Paul Sarbanes)

http://dodd.senate.gov/ (Chris Dodd)

http://kerry.senate.gov/ (John Kerry)

http://feingold.senate.gov/ (Russ Feingold)

http://boxer.senate.gov/ (Barbara Boxer)

http://billnelson.senate.gov/ (Bill Nelson)

http://obama.senate.gov/ (Barack Obama)


There is one missing -- George Allen! I tried three times to access his email address, but it just c-r-a-w-l-e-d along and resulted in nothing --not unlike the man himself!!!!!

When you email Lugar, please include a c.c. to any or ALL of the above committee members!

(P.S. You DUers are the BEST!!!!!)


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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:02 PM
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27. Suggestion - shorten it
Let's face it. Most of us want short letters and to the point. Even more so elected officials who are not our representatives.

If you can cut it to a maximum of three or four paragraphs (take a page from the DU rules) you will get a better impact.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Good point, question everything.
But we're going for TWO things here, content AND volume!

If you can pare your letter down to a quick paragraph or two, do so!

But don't shy away from a lengthy missive, if that's what you feel necessary to make your point.

The idea here is QUANTITY of letters, emails, phone calls, faxes, etc.

Content can often be ignored, but an ONSLAUGHT of messages are a lot harder to ignore.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #28
42. Nance, I think it's most important
for us to get YOUR letter out to the masses through our various networks, thereby getting everybody suitably worked up, and then all of us can send the three- or four-paragraph letters to the senator. Of course, your letter goes to the senator, as well. It's really a masterpiece.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:53 AM
Response to Reply #42
43. Thanks, Blue_in_AK!
Everyone here is free to re-post my letter to other websites, or to email to those interested parties who you think will pass it along.

Send it to your local papers, if you think they will reprint it. Don't hestitate to cut-and-paste if you want to use portions of my letter in composing your own letter, re-post, email or LTTE.

JUST DO IT! Spread the word -- this, IMHO, is one of those issues that will hit home with many Americans, and just might cause a 29-percenter (those who still support BushCo) to rethink their position.

Democratic Underground - Saving the nation, one email at a time!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #27
36. Yes, shorten. To the point.
More eye catching, works. People hate to read. Great idea to contact the powers that be.
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AusGail Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:34 PM
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29. Theme Park
Maybe they could build an "Invasion for Freedom and Democracy" theme park next door.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Hey, Aus Gail!
Long time no read!

Glad to see you're still with us.

I was going to suggest to Mr. Lugar that they have 'admission free' days to tour the new embassy digs for the Abu Ghraib crowd. Torturing our fellow human beings (allegedly) in the name of American citizens can he HARD WORK. Surely they deserve a day of air-conditioning and hot-tubs to ease their souls ...
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AusGail Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. I forgot to ask
Has Halliburton (spelling?) got the contract?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Who else????
Edited on Sun May-21-06 12:44 AM by NanceGreggs
The no-bid contract went to a Kuwait company that is a subcontractor to Kelogg, Brown & Root (which is a subsidiary of Halliburton).

For those who don't already know how Halliburton works, they are awarded no-bid contracts by Bush, they immediately skim 50% of the money off the top as their 'take', then pass the contract on to others, who in turn skim 50% off the top ... and so on.

In short, a $50 per hour job becomes a $25 per hour job, which then becomes a $12.50 per hour job, which eventually winds up being done by unskilled workers for $5 per hour. This is what happened with the Katrina 'rebuild' -- and of course, the taxpayers are footing $50 per hour for $5 per hour work.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #38
82. The Cool aid drunks
They will never give up on their hero.

Their license plates now read "Faith Hope and Victory"

They always believe in George their God-king

No mtter how outrageous this administration is, they
just assume that the bad news is untrue and merely
liberal lies
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:34 PM
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30. This may be a silly comment. But...
I frequent a forum where there are some particularly cool-aid drunken folks. There are quite a lot of them floating around, really. I was going to post just the facts on this forum. But I already know the response will be, "and so, what's the problem?". These people who have as much as told me how incensed they are about having to pay for "Bill Clinton's hotel room", in reference to the episode surrounding you know what, are the same people who will not see anything wrong with meddling in the Middle East, at their great great great grand children's expense.

Is posting on forums a way of getting attention of liberal voters only? Or are we in the process of waking up the cool-aid drunks as well? Because it seems to me that this should offend every American.

I suppose the answer to this is obvious. The cool-aid drunks are in too deep. And if every liberal voter is alerted, we can change this mess.




And I have been so fuming about this embassy for quite a while now that I can hardly contain my rage. But I'll spare sharing my experiences on the subject and just confine it to my question. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:06 PM
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34. There is nothing 'silly' about your comment ...
... in fact, quite the opposite!

We have all seen Bush's numbers plummet in the last few months, and the rising price of gas has a lot to do with it. Many think this is just an example of former Bush supporters yelling 'ouch' because his policies are hitting them in their personal wallets.

And I don't doubt the truth of that. But there are also citizens who, when something like that comes home to roost in their own backyard, begin saying WTF about EVERYTHING they've believed about this administration. They start asking questions -- and the answers they get piss them off.

Imagine you're a staunch Bush supporter and you hear about this embassy for the first time. You start to question this administration's constant protestations that the US will leave Iraq in the near future. You start question where your tax dollars have REALLY been going, when you thought they were being spent on rebuilding Iraqi hospitals, schools, etc. In short, you start questioning EVERYTHING you've been led to believe by your GOP soothsayers.

It is imperative, IMHO, that we try to reach as many of our fellow citizens as we can. Outrage will fire up the Democratic base, and will hopefully wake up the sleeping Bush-supporters who have been lulled into a false sense of their hard-earned tax dollars being spent on humane purposes in Iraq.

Please post your outrage on other websites. The worst that can happen is no one will listen. The best that can happen is that someone WILL -- and will tell someone, who tells someone, who tells someone ...
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:44 PM
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62. Well, I posted the newspaper link on my forum.
And it was promptly deleted. I posted that I thought people should read it since it's being paid for by their tax dollars. That was as political as I got.

Meanwhile, here's a post that continues to gain replies-

Topic:

100 Million Under Educated Latinos to be "allowed" in over the next 20 years. Plus who knows how many who will continue to swim the river. Man, we got troubles. Brought to you by the Congress-critters and Presidents of both parties...


I'm really pissed off right now. I'm fighting mad. These shitheads are crying about Mexicans. And they used to own this part of the country. But never mind that. These creeps are totally out of touch, and eyeing the wrong problems. They can't see anything due to their shortsightedness. Or ignorance.

So let the middle east burn. I can't even post the link. :(
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:55 PM
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64. Maybe for the koolaid drinkers you could open a post with latest
Edited on Sun May-21-06 01:57 PM by Catrina
cuts for veterans. I don't have a link, but apparently there's been another one.

Address it to the 'troop supporters' and challenge them to write to their Reps to demand that this latest attack on the troops be stopped and a new bill restoring those funds for returning veterans be introduced.

Then introduce the picture and information of what the Iraqis are calling 'Bush's Palace', and ask them is this where the money for the troops is going? Is this why they don't have food and equipment?

Being a veteran of rightwing blogs, I know how they respond to anything that makes their cult leader look bad, but some over time, if they keep having to defend these crimes, may finally awaken. Some already have.

If they ask 'so what' answer with their own tactics 'so you really don't care about the troops, you'd rather the money go to Kuwaitis than your own troops?' etc. I'm sure you're familiar with their idiotic tactics.

Then I would post Nance's excellent letter for them to read and ask them to defend this, while veterans back home are homeless and having their benefits cut. Also some of the articles above.

They are so easily fooled, but they are becoming more and more a minority. Some of them may want to jump ship now, it's never a waste of time to keep them informed, because they won't hear the truth on Fox or from Rush.
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Polemicist Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:43 PM
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32. We must overcome the "Saddam Palace Gap"...
Or America will lose all credibility with ordinary Iraqis. Our wise benevolent GOP leadership at the White House and in Congress have long been aware of this huge "Saddam Palace Gap" and are quietly pouring billions into the effort to close that gap with new and vastly overpriced American Palaces in Iraq.

Everyone in the Middle East, knows that Iraqis will only support the person or party with the bestest, hugest, and most extravagant Palaces. Saddam held power solely by building more and more fabulous Palaces than anyone before. To end the insurgency, we must follow his example to the letter.

Thus we are building the Palace to end all Palaces, The Mother of All Palaces, Allah be praised.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:08 PM
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35. I honestly hope you forgot ...
... to turn on your :sarcasm: icon.

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Polemicist Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:34 AM
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44. I've not figured out any of those gismos...
So I have to imply sarcasm the old fashioned way, with words.

But I learned tonight on Saturday Night Live that the inventor of Sarcasm was Lord Sarc, and no one understood that he meant the opposite of what he said either. So I suppose I'm in good company.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:26 AM
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50. LOL!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:46 PM
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33. Damn! Fine letter there.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:11 AM
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39. Wow, Nancy...
What a great letter! Your outrage cuts like a knife. :toast: I think I'll be sending a little missive of my own.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:16 AM
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41. Glad to have you on board, Blue_In_Ak ...
... no one knows how to put words together like we court personnel who do it for a living, right?

:hi:
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 06:20 AM
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45. Glad to help.
I`m sending my note via postcard, hoping that a few extra people might read it along the way.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:13 AM
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46. Artist Concept of the American Embassy in Babel....er, Baghdad


Financed by Greed and Arrogance, just like the original.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:24 AM
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49. The Tower of Pork.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:21 PM
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59. How fitting!
The Tower of Babel - where God, in his anger, caused everyone involved to speak in different languages so that no one could be understood.

And when it comes to speaking incoherently, G.W. Bush has a head-start!
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:45 AM
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47. A most excellent letter!
I've passed on the article and your letter (xxxxed out your name to protect your privacy) to my email list.
Great job, and thank you!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:17 AM
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48. Here's mine, short but sweet......
Dear Senator Lugar,
I just saw a picture of the biggest piece of pork barrel spending I have ever seen. A huge billion dollar Embassy. Saddam would be proud. What's next? The Garden of Eden theme park? How about a Tower of Babel water ride? What in the Hell are you people thinking? You Republicans are acting like spoiled brats running up Daddy's credit card. It's got to stop and it will this November.
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:47 AM
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51. For $592 million
They'd better have mutha fuckin' rides, and free icecream days.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:53 AM
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52. copied and pasted
your letter with these words added: treasury looting by any other name is still treasury looting.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:10 AM
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53. We should contact Truthout!
:sarcasm:

I should say "Partial Truthout"! Can you tell I'm bitter?
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Sad4world Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:25 AM
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54. Lugar
I am new to DU and I sent your letter to Lugar.

Will the abuses ever stop?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:06 PM
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55. Welcome to DU, S4W --
Edited on Sun May-21-06 12:06 PM by IndyOp
Your taking action makes me Hope4world -> ;-)

:applause:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:45 PM
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63. It's too late to stop this particular abuse ...
... construction will continue, no matter what we say or do.

But we sure can make the GOP squirm when they have to explain themselves to their constituents.

This story will be one more anchor around the GOP's neck as the voters decide whether to kick them overboard in November.

If we had a great economy right now -- if jobs were plentiful, wages were up -- this kind of expenditure wouldn't phase the average voter. But considering there are people who are cutting back on their GROCERY budget to make ends meet, this kind of money-wasting is going to hit home, and hit HARD.

Spread the word!

And welcome to DU!!!!! :hi:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:25 PM
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56. I have faxed
my letter to Lugar, here is what I told him: Senator, this voting taxpayer wants to express to you how angry and outraged I am over the nearly $600 million dollar waste of taxpayer money called an Embassy, being built in Baghdad. "Palace" might be a more appropriate descriptor for a facility that has to be seen as proof positive to the average Iraqi citizen doing without water, electricity and other basic city services that we, the USA, fully intend to occupy their country and maintain a permanent presence on their soil. That alone would be reason enough for American taxpayers to be as outraged as I am. Understand this Senator, the American people deserve accountability, there will be a price to pay, for this outrageous waste of taxpayer funds, will you help put a stop to this or will you be one those held accountable??? Thanks for posting this Nancy, hope we are able to get their attention, at least enough for them to understand that they didn't do a very good job of hiding this.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #56
65. Hi, vpilot!
Excellent letter - and don't forget to POST IT on the other sites you frequent!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:14 PM
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57. Just got on-line, guys!
And I am absolutely dazzled by the letters written so far!

DON'T FORGET TO CROSS-POST ON OTHER SITES!

The more I think about this whole mess, the madder I get. Especially about keeping this project hidden from the US citizenry on the basis of 'national security'!

WTF? What security could be breached by Americans knowing about a building being constructed on the other side of the world - a construction site of over a hundred acres, with nine hundred workers on-site every day, visible to one and all in Baghdad?

The only 'security' involved here is the damned Repubs who want to secure their re-election before their constituents find out they voted to appropriate this money and spend it on this obscenity.

This project is estimated to cost over a BILLION dollars to complete. And it will be the gift that just keeps taking. One can only imagine the taxpayers' dollars it will cost to maintain this facility on an ongoing basis - not to mention the cost of security personnel to guard it.

Apparently the Iraqis call it "Bush's Palace". So this is that legacy he always talks about, and it certainly is a fitting one. A towering monument to greed, arrogance, and outright stupidity, that will stand as an insult to the people of Iraq for years to come.

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catchnrelease Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:19 PM
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58. I sent one
not nearly as eloquent as yours, Nance, but I think my feelings were pretty clear. I hope our outrage will spread, as this is a travesty. I can't even imagine how angry the Iraqi people must be when they look at that complex. I esp love the part about how the place will be self sufficient. So THEY won't have to worry about no power, water, AC etc while the citizens are on their own. Argh!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:24 PM
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60. Especially considering that these same people ...
... had clean water and electricity BEFORE we ever got there. I can only imagine the amount of security it's going to take to keep the angry citizenry at bay ...
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:44 PM
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66. Thanks for posting that.
Another $592 million chunk of Corporate Welfare for Halliburton. And it's not even part of the $18.4 billion "emergency" appropriation for Iraq reconstruction. I guess it's an "emergency" handout to Halliburton. Their profits must be dipping below their record levels. We wouldn't want them to default on Dick Quick-Draw McCheney's pension, would we? He might not be able to afford any more shotgun shells.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:54 PM
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67. You got that right!
As BushCo counts down its last less-than-a-thousand days in office, they have to get even busier than usual to funnel the taxpayers' money to their cronies.

Please spread the word about this!
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:57 PM
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68. Sent One Also
Little cut-and-paste, little of my own stuff. And my send-off: Yesterday I thought I couldn't be any more disgusted by this administration. Thanks for proving me wrong!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. Welcome aboard, kimmylavin!
Love your send-off line!!!!

Don't forget to spread your outrage around. Send a copy of your letter to everyone you can think of, and ask them to do the same!

:hi:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 06:25 PM
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75. Welcome to DU,Kimmylavin-you're among friends here
:hi:
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:08 PM
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70. NOT TO WORRY
A not too few billion have already disappeared and went down the drain in Iraq! This atrocity will likely not be standing, as more than a pile of rubble, within ONE YEAR! So whats a few million more? THE GREAT AMERICAN TAXPAYER - what a fool!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:40 PM
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73. I realize that. However, the reason I want to get this story ...
... out there is because an 'embassy' of this magnitude is a tangible thing for taxpayers to focus on.

We all know that the 29-percenters (Bush supporters) don't give any credence to "money gone missing". They think it's the lefty naysayers fabricating things, as always.

But you can only hide a 104-acre, 21-building complex for so long. And I'm sure it will outrage people who are struggling to make ends meet (in this GREAT economy we're allegedly enjoying) to know where their money is going.

As for your prediction that this will all be a pile of rubble in the not-too-distant future, I think you're right. All the more reason for voters to KNOW who is spending their money on such a ridiculous misadventure.

If this story is widely-spread, it will be yet ANOTHER nail in the GOP coffin this November.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:22 PM
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76. For those of you having trouble composing letters ...
... here's a quick, to-the-point letter and/or email you can send:

Senator Richard G. Lugar
Chariman, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Dear Sir:

I have recently been made aware of the US Embassy currently being constructed in Baghdad at a cost of almost $600,000,000 (and rising), a project over which the Committee you chair has oversight.

In view of this expenditure, could you please explain why:

(1) Less than half the water and electricity projects in Iraq have been completed, only six of the 150 planned health centres have been completed, over $70 million has been spent on medical equipment for health clinics that are unlikely ever to be built?

(2) This project has not been publicized in the United States due to 'security reasons', when it is a well-known fact around the globe? Why have US citizens been kept in the dark, when they are the ones paying for it?

(3) Pension funds and benefits for the military who are fighting in Iraq are being gutted, while there was apparently no shortage of funds for this endeavor?

I await your immediate response.

A VERY Concerned Citizen,
(Your name here, with mailing and/or email address)

Check posts above for Lugar's email address, and c.c. your Senators and Congresscritters!
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:50 PM
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77. Is sarcasm really the only tool we have for expressing outrage?
Maybe I don't have much of an ear for it, but a straight-up explanation of what's wrong with this project would communicate better to me, at least.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #77
80. Sarcasm happens to be my way of expressing rage ...
... but I am not advocating that everyone express themselves in the same way.

Some people prefer writing an emotional, from-the-heart missive.

Others prefer to include facts and figures.

Many prefer the threat of withholding votes, or financial support.

Do it any way you feel comfortable with -- JUST DO IT!
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:36 PM
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79. Sen. Lugar will be getting my snail mail opinion. Nance, you've
done some amazing work here with your passionate, eloquently written opinions as well as your organizational skills.
Please keep up the good work and let's all continue to fight the good fight.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:28 PM
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81. Thanks, argyl ...
I'm just one soldier in the battle to save our country. But as part of the DU Army, I feel invincible!
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:08 PM
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83. Recommended and will spread the word.
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