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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:47 AM
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One of ours is embarassing himself on C-span Washington Journal
Edited on Tue May-23-06 07:49 AM by acmejack
Ackerman D Ohio Middle East Subcommittee Ranking Member

He is upbraiding the callers as terrorist sympathizers if they want to provide any aid to the Palastinians. He is a big pro Israel guy.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:51 AM
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1. Campaign contributions?
I'd be interested to know just how far his grubby little hand has gone into the AIPAC cookie jar over the years.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:52 AM
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2. He is defending Israel's right to keep the land they "won" but it does no
good to even bring these topics to DU because any discussion of same is verbotten.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:55 AM
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3. Listen to the guy he is a grade A dick
Edited on Tue May-23-06 08:00 AM by acmejack
I call Bullshit! We are discussing the Morning show on C-span which is allowed. We are discussing the subcommittee on the middle east which is permitted. We are discussing the business of the US Congress. This is the business of the People of the United States, we must discuss it. If it makes you uncomfortable, do not participate, but do not attempt to tell me not to discuss it, please.

I am talking about him personally and he is talking about funding Hamas. He's sitting here screaming Anti-Semite at everyone who calls and disagrees with him.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:59 AM
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4. His extra prickly, belligerant rants are certainly not...
making him or Democrats look good. I support Israel, in a general way, and I think Ackerman is way over the top.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:59 AM
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5. Boy, now he is SCREAMING at a caller who said, "You took over their
Edited on Tue May-23-06 08:01 AM by itzamirakul
land..." Now he is calling the man an anti-semite. Then he tells the man, "I am hanging up on you. Go back to walking your dog."

This is the answer to all ME problems. It is absolutely impossible to criticize Israel for ANYTHING, therefore it is impossible to have a sane discussion of the problems.

He is certainly making himself look like a fool.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:02 AM
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6. I have never encountered him before
His answer to everything was the Anti Semite hammer.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:23 AM
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8. I live in NYC and I don't think I have ever heard of him before either,
but he certainly is a poster boy for how to defeat the Democratic Party.

Why doesn't he spend some time screaming about how BushCo has lied to the nation and destroyed our laws? I could appreciate THAT kind of screaming.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:08 AM
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11. Calling people anti-semites without good reason huts Jews everywhere.
Because it dilutes the vileness of anti-semitism. Believe me, to steal a bit from John Stewart, anti-semites work very hard to be as vile and disgusting as they are- honor that commitment to evil by using the term anti-semite only when appropriate. :)

PB
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:19 AM
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14. A child of four could have figured this one out
Why didn't the caller just say "I didn't mean 'you' in particular, Congressman. I meant 'you' as in the United States".

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 12:39 PM
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16. perhaps he's defending the multitude of un security council resolutions..
Edited on Tue May-23-06 12:39 PM by frylock
Israel is in violation of.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:22 AM
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7. I don't know who Ackerman is,
but i've seen the film of whats going on inside Palestine right now, and it's not pretty.
I could even use the word genocide to describe what i saw going on, and i don't like it.

Peace!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:43 AM
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9. Which Democrats in Congress ar in favor of supporting the Hamas government
Edited on Tue May-23-06 08:44 AM by Freddie Stubbs
:shrug:
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:00 AM
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10. sophistry:
a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiving someone.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:15 AM
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13. How am I trying to decieve anyone?
I simply made a point that Ackermen's views are representative of most, if not all, of the Democrats in Congress. What is deceptive or invalid about that?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:09 AM
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12. and when a caller asked him about our already allocated aid money

being withheld because they elected Hamas - the caller said but what about the poor in Palistine? Gary said, all excited, that we pick and choose who we give aid to and we don't even give aid to OUR poor - at that point he realized what he said and babbled on to something else.

he was angry with many callers

and he said this amazing thing when asked about Gaza - that Israel won Gaza in a war they didn't start and to the victors go the spoils. but wonderful Israel give Gaza back when they didn't have to.

to the victors go the spoils of war

well, now we know where Gary stands

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:40 AM
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15. I saw him and wondered why I'd never heard of him before...he's really
cocky and obnoxious.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 12:43 PM
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17. He has a point -- albeit a poorly worded one...
Helping Palestinians is one thing. Helping Hamas is quite another. And with Hamas controling the Palestinian government, it certainly is an ethical quandry. But I suppose "ethical quandry" could be the motto of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so it makes sense.
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