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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:41 AM
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Gore cannot make global warming his main issue if he runs for president
While I think it's an extremely important issue because I do believe in global warming, it cannot be his main issue if he runs in 2008. While global warming does resonate with some people, it doesn't look like the issue has enough pull to make it a really major issue. Also, you can bet that if Gore does make the issue one of the centerpieces of his campaign, the right will waste precious little time in attacking, and since the right controls the media, the message will be drowned out by the gutter politics of the right.
I think global warming is becoming increasingly dangerous to our world, and more needs to be done to stop what's happening. Gore is opening up people's eyes to the real prospect that planet earth is warming up. That being said, Gore cannot make global warming his main campaign issue. He can make in an issue, and no doubt he will, but it will be a huge mistake he comes across as preaching on a subject the American people don't want to hear about.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:44 AM
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1. "It's the ECONOMY, stupid!" worked for his old boss
and it will work again. He needs to campaign on economic justice, on fair wages, on a fairer tax system that repeals the massive giveaways to the rich while protecting working folks from the AMT, and on health care.

Fighting global warming is something he can do when he's in office.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:48 AM
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3. I disagree - I hope that he makes that an integral part of the campaign
Actually, it has impact on the economy, healthcare, international affairs, ... I will NOT support for the primary a candidate that thinks the American people cannot understand complex issues.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:57 AM
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11. Why not? Most Americans CAN'T understand complex issues.
Nor do they have the desire to do so.

This will be spun as a hit on their pocket book. Greed is one American value that cuts across all economic and political boundaries.

Global warming is probably the most important issue facing us but it's loser in a presidential campaign.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:49 AM
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5. Gore won't wait to fight global warming Warpy
That's my point. He won't wait until he gets into office to do that. He will want to make the issue one of his main points on the campaign trail. I don't think he can do that with so many issues more important to the American people.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:15 AM
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12. We need somebody who at last decide to talk honestly.
If you dont fight global warming, all these things you say they care more are going to become worse.

You need somebody who will talk about global warming and LINK it with the other issues, explain how it is going to affect people (and it is true for all the issues, not only global warming. If people want t o fight on the NSA hearings, they have to show people how that can affect them. Same thing with privacy issues ...).
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:46 AM
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2. Thanks for your input.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:48 AM
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4. Gore isn't running...yet. When he does, then we'll see his platform.
Edited on Thu May-25-06 09:52 AM by Dunvegan
Not before.

He's sidestepping the landmines until such date as he declares.

But, if you read or view any of his recent speeches in the last several years, there is a LOT there on a number of issues...especially his call for "We The People" to stand and defend our Constitution against the current attack on our rights. Al said this before the wiretapping was exposed, before Abu, earlier this year.

I personally do not believe, from careful observation, that Mr. Gore will dissapoint if he chooses to answer a draft call.

(Postscript: Even in the tongue-in-cheek Saturday Night Live appearance the other day, he addressed issues. "What part of the 'lock-box' don't you understand?")
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:50 AM
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6. Quite the system we've created
"global"

"it doesn't look like the issue has enough pull to make it a really major issue."

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:51 AM
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7. The people will be looking for anything different from the present mess...
Democrats can run to make poke salad the national vegetable. It doesn't matter. They need to point out the mess and incompetence we now have and that we need to change. They don't need a 10-step program.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:53 AM
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8. I agree.
but unfortunately, after the campaign he ran in 2000, we can expect this kind of bonehead mistake.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:54 AM
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9. Its a nice fit issue ...
Ties into the alternative energy, reduce dependence on foreign oil theme I hear so often parried about ... or as the chimp would say .... we is addicted tah oyl. Burn that oil and what do you get ...
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:55 AM
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10. Its the WAR, the ECONOMY, the TREASON, the SPYING, the CORRUPTION,
the ENVIRONMENT and HEALTHCARE and TAXES and ELECTION REFORM

STUPID!!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:15 AM
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17. Too bad that won't fit on a bumpersticker...
That would be great!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:31 AM
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13. He'd be stupid not to make it an issue.
This is a perfect issue for dems to run on.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:14 AM
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16. True. because it is also about Hurricane Katrina...
and the incompetence of this government.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:34 AM
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18. More importantly than that...
environmental issues are issues where democrats totally blow republicans out of the water.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:47 AM
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14. but global warming IS the issue of most importance


I think that's what he should continue to push 24/7 365

placing the evidence before america and the world's eyes.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:16 PM
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22. donsu, I agree that global warming is a very important issue, but
If Gore pushes the issue too hard, he's going to lose people who are not as passionate as he is on the subject. Push the issue, make it part of his agenda, but don't let it dominate the agenda.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:08 AM
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15. Finally..
... I can agree with you.

The problem with global warming is that it is already here, and anything we do now will yield dividends in the far future.

By concentrating on alternative energy, energy efficiency and similar approaches, we can attack global warming and accomplish things in our own lifetimes.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:31 PM
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19. sendero and I agree, maybe I ought to change my opinion
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:54 PM
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20. Still supporting Hillary, I see
Edited on Thu May-25-06 01:56 PM by IndianaGreen
Gore has spoken forcefully about Bush's power brag and the loss of civil liberties. He has spoken about Bush's "war on terror" and the great damage it has done to American interests worldwide. Gore is the leading political figure on climate change and its impact on our economy, our lives, and the globe.

If Gore were to run for President, he will do just fine without your advise, and he will win just as he did in 2000 (Gore did win Florida!). Now, it is up to us to prevent another stolen election followed by a judicial coup.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:12 PM
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21. I don't care if Gore takes my advice or not
And what makes you think I'm supporting Hillary? If I had to support someone right now, Hillary would be 5th behind Warner, Bayh, Gore and Clark.:eyes: :spank:
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:23 PM
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23. The good news is
you can tie issues like that to economics. Everyone knows that gas prices are costing us money and dragging down the economy. Renewable energy and less dependence on oil is a winning issue if you frame it right and the environmentalists can have something to cheer about too.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:47 PM
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24. Great point
Edited on Thu May-25-06 02:48 PM by killerbush
All I'm saying is don't harp on global warming, and only global warming day after day, week after week, and month after month. People will hit the snooze button.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:55 PM
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25. Why can't he?? And tie global warming into all the other issues..........
....facing the world, if that's what he believes. A case can certainly be made for global warming being based on greed and greed certainly drives the oil drilling. The lack of greed would drive "alternative fuel sources" and "alternative fuel sources" can create jobs. Yes, it can be done.
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danimich1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:58 PM
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26. Just wait for another Katrina or two, then EVERYONE will be listening.
Just my opinion. But it won't be very long before people wake up and put the pieces together. What is more important than actually having a safe place to live?
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:13 PM
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27. It ties in with Katrina and the economy and oil, and therefore the war.
But yes, maybe ending the war/ improving global relations should get priority.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:54 PM
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28. Will you DLC trolls
eff off and die. Gore denounced DLC a long time ago, and embraced a populist stand, and I support Gore for that.

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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:37 PM
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30. We're here to say HawkeyeX, get used to it
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:14 PM
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29. If he runs it'll probably be on national health care
Not some bullshit "affordable" insurance or whatever, but taxpayer funded real reform.

Insurance and health care costs are CRIPPLING more and more Americans every day. Gore's building an army of supporters in his campaign to save the planet. If he wants the nomination in 08, all he'll have to do is change the subject and inform the troops.
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bluefish Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:39 PM
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31. HMMM you post interesting threads
n/t
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:09 PM
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32. Well, um;
Edited on Thu May-25-06 05:09 PM by lildreamer316
I think you may or may not be right.I'm gonna wait and see how the movie does...what the attendance is; what the buzz is in a month. If it plays wide enough; he will kill two birds with one stone. See; it's not that I think he dosen't have a HUGE passion for this subject; and care very very deeply about it. However; don't you see what this is doing?

It's making him a MOVIE star.

And MOVIE stars can get elected.

Ahem.

Damn that man is brilliant.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:10 PM
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33. It is his main issue, and that's probably the best indication
that he is NOT running.
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