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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:21 AM
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DU Lie of the Day: Democrats are saying 'no impeachment'
This is not a thread about **any** one democrat. It is about every one of them. From our most right leaning to our most left leaning.

To my knowledge not ONE of them has said, flat out and definitively, they would oppose impeachment.

To say otherwise is to lie.

Convince me I'm wrong.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:23 AM
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1. Nancy Pelosi said it was off the table.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:38 AM
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5. Nancy Pelosi, more honestly stated, said they will proceed with
investigations and that impeachment is off the table .... (for now ......)

We all know that.

Don't we?
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:54 PM
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17. No, she said if Dems regain the house its off the table.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:38 AM
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6. Doesn't "off the table" technically mean...
... it's not a point of negotiation?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:39 AM
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8. Everyone ignores the elipses at the end of that statement
When she made the statement, it ended in an ellipses, not a period.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:24 AM
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2. They would be stupid to
say anything decisive on the issue. It's certainly NOT the time to be talking of impeachment. Talking about impeachment now will hurt the Dems in Nov.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:38 AM
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7. Eeeeeeegggggg-zakly
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:28 PM
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16. That's what I think too nt
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:25 AM
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3. maybe if they would look at the new Zogby poll that will change
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:40 AM
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9. I'd bet they've read the poll
... and I'd bet it won't change a single public statement right now.

And that would be a good srategy.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:25 AM
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4. Can one "lie" if they believe what they say to be the truth?
If I say "this potato salad has mustard in it," because that's what I believe, I'm not lying if it turns out to be something else. I'm just ignorant.

Otherwise -- I've not seen anyone say "no impeachment ever." (I've seen plenty saying "let's not jump the gun; no impeachment now.") Doesn't mean nobody has -- but I haven't seen it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:41 AM
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10. Correct and I agree with you on all counts
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:43 AM
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11. That's not what I'm hearing (from repukes)
They are trying to tell everyone that if we take Congress, the first thing we will do is start impeachment hearings. This is a lame attempt to paint us as the party of petty partisan bickering. But tell me how this works: We are the party of petty partisan bickering because it is *possible* we would impeach a president over debatable evidence, when they actually DID impeach a president on debatable evidence. I have no idea how their little minds came to that conclusion.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:52 AM
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13. And it is for THIS VERY REASON we need to maintain some
party discipline on this one issue.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:51 AM
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12. First comes subpoena power.
There's plenty of time later for impeachment.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:53 AM
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14. Let's get off "impeachment" until the 8th of November - then tackle......
....this entire administration head on. Yes the Democratic Party is saying impeachment is off the table BUT they ARE NOT SAYING FOR HOW LONG. Yes, we've suffered through pure hell for six long miserable years without any hope of change but a few more months may well bring that much needed change. We need to concentrate on the 06 elections first and get control of Congress back. Our Democratic Leaders are using their brains unlike a few here at DU - let's NOT galvanize the neocons/fundies into hitting the polls in November in droves just to stop the Democratic Party. Think people, think about the long term.

ALWAYS GIVE YOURSELF ENOUGH SPACE TO COME BACK AND FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. Pay back is a royal b.... and it's coming. :bounce:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:58 AM
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15. Thank you
Sage words, indeed .... and the very point of my OP
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