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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:53 PM
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What percent of voters do you believe KNOW about voting machine fraud?
Just a quick number will do.

My answer: 1%
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:09 PM
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1. Pretty close. You may be a little high. Peace, Kim
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:11 PM
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2. I think many more have heard stories about
irregularities & other voting issues but they can't bring themselves to believe our democratic republic is so far gone. It's easier to delude themselves that we all wear tin foil hats.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:15 PM
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3. I believe it's somewhere between 15 and 20% that know the machines
can be hacked or altered. And here's the survey about the number of people who actually think there was fraud in 2004:

Here are the stats by network listed as first choice by respondent and whether the respondent thought the election was stolen or legitimate.
Network Stolen Legitimate
ABC 56% 32%
CBS 64% 31%
CNN 70% 24%
FOX .5% 99%
MSNBC 65% 24%
NBC 49% 43%
Other 56% 28%

http://www.opednews.com/
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:22 PM
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4. seriously
I think it's about 40-50% that know or suspect voting machine fraud. They may not be willing to talk about it much, but they are aware of it and just chalk it up to another one of those things you can't do anything about. More than that know about other kinds of disenfranchisement though.

Why do you think it's so low? I think it's filtering out and given the other scandals, it's more easily believed.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:31 PM
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5. I think they've heard of vote fraud, but don't KNOW about voting MACHINE
fraud and how it happens.

They've always suspected there's vote fraud going on - but the specific issue of the machines being hacked and votes switched, etc... I think few know.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:46 PM
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6. My first thought was 1%.
But that was just rounding up to get a whole number.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:58 PM
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7.  What percent of voters do you believe KNOW any issue?
start with some of the most knowledgable and involved voters right here on DU ...

ask any question on almost any issue and the results will not be very good ...

how many of us, without doing research could answer these questions or other questions like these ... i'll use some of our 2004 primary candidates:

what was Wes Clark's position on right to work laws?
what did Kucinich think about capital gains taxes?
did Mosely-Braun support immediate withdrawal from Iraq?
What were Gephardt's thoughts on healthcare reform?
How did Kerry want to reform education?
What was Edwards' position on CAFTA?'

now i'm talking DU'ers here ... i respect DU'ers ...

you go out to the general public and many people don't want to even discuss politics ...

the issue you've raised, at least for me, is not just voting fraud but more importantly, a disconnect between "civic awareness" and retaining our democracy ...

there are all sorts of reasons for this disconnect ... one thing that needs to happen, and it surely is not happening enough, is that our elected leaders need to spend way more time going to communities in their districts, in free, public forums, and speak to their constituents ... they're invisible and so are the voters ... without leadership on this issue, nothing will change and voters will be more and more vulnerable to propaganda and disinformation campaigns ...

it's killing us ...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 07:07 PM
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9. Touche' .... and of course. it's disheartening on many levels.
And I say that as someone who genuinely cares about DU and many of our characters.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:41 PM
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8. K&R!
good question but a little shy... I think it's more like 3%.
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danimich1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 07:26 PM
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10. Unless people see it on Jay Leno or American Idol, they won't even
consider it. Sad but true. People are too busy watching their entertainment every night to even think about what is happening.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 08:01 PM
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11. That's basically my point. Some think conceding makes someone weak - but
ALOT of people concede - all the primary candidates conceded and none of them looked weak. Only at DU does conceding make a canddate look weak. The American people saw a close, hard-fought race that Bush was expected to win in a landslide just a year earlier. Of course, WE know he only won with voting tricks and machine fraud.

The American people know NOTHING about machine fraud. And there is no way to even track machine fraud AFTER it occurs because there is no trace on the rigged machines.

But, the next candidate better damn well make sure that the DNC is working to SECURE the voting machines BEFORE the next election.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 08:05 PM
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12. Its Really Small
In general, if I even mention the subject, I get that look, you know, like ... oh no, arent you over it yet.
I dont think main stream ever gave the idea enough credibility so that main stream people will even really wonder.
I mean, if fraud was possible wouldnt it be a lead story on GeTvs evening news?
My take, people overwhelmingly still trust the news organizations.
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