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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:03 PM
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Why is George Bush sealing Rep. Jefferson's records??
If this isn't the ultimate power grab, I don't know what the hell is.

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:05 PM
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1. I would say he is hiding something BIG
just a guess
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:06 PM
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2. There must be something in the records which
is bad for *Co. That is probably the reason the search was done on his office. Jefferson cannot be held up to show the Dems "equally" guilty of corruption if his connections were are *Co buddies.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:13 PM
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5. Well, we know he isn't doing it to protect the Constitution
which he said is just a peice of paper.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:15 PM
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9. Interesting....
But the report is that the money came from South Korea, I believe? Perhaps the White House is the "middle man"?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:06 PM
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3. Because he is a compassionate conservative
and only wants justice to prevail. He's a uniter not a divider. He's also a humble christian. He's also a war hero. The man is fucking God! He is also a brilliant legal scholar and sees the need to undo this barging into congressmen's offices while on a witchhunt precedent before some wackjob liberal democrat gets elected president and the barging occurs to gop members. The man is simply brilliant.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:59 PM
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12. .





BOSSHOG, you're goooood!
Now come clean my keyboard!:spray:











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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:08 PM
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4. Maybe it has sunk in down there in his lizard brain
that there is true bipartisanship in Congress about how the Justice Department done wrong by grabbing them in the first place, and that with a real bipartisan effort he could be in some deep doody.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:14 PM
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6. It's a deal....
...to prevent a Republican-controlled Congressional impeachment.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:23 PM
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7. It's only for 45 days. He gets to look good and still make his power grab
The Jefforson records are inconsequential. Setting the precedent is the goal. By sealing the records for 45 days, Bush gets to 1) look responsible 2) make it look as if he's not trying to expand the power of the executive and 3) give himself a month and a half for the whole thing to blow over.

What will we have in 45 days? A precedent set and everybody's attention on something else.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:53 PM
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8. I thought your subject line said "Why is Bush* SELLING records"
Sounds more likely, frankly....:eyes:


I truly believe that they know they can get by with anything if they keep us overloaded on outrage....:mad:
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:39 PM
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10. Who was Jefferson?
What kind of stuff was he working on? Anything that might upset the big boys or is it certain he was just plain dirty?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:49 PM
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11. All this media hype by Hastert is tieing corruption back to the GOP
BushCo has been trying to single out in the media that corruption is tied to the Democrats, but Hastert threw a monkey wrench in the works.

They want the Hastert fury to die down a bit before ramping up Democrats=corruption again.

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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 07:34 PM
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13. Because he's "The Decider"?
Do I win a prize for the correct answer? :patriot:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 08:49 PM
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14. The saga of Congressman Crookedcritter R-Neverland
Let's say some GOP Congressman, We'll call him Congressman Crookedcritter, gets caught with his hands deep inside the well known cookie jar.

Let's say the FBI goes after Congressman Crookedcritter and all hell is about to break loose. Facts are about to be released to the angry mob of pitch fork wielding peasants--that would be us, folks. Things ain't looking too good for Congressman Crookedcritter.

Then "For the good of the country" the Decider decides to seal the records on Congressman Crookedcritter, therefore preventing the dirty deeds of Congressman Crookedcritter from ever seeing the light of day. If the Democrats cry foul, the Decider can point out that the first time he ever did this was to salvage the Congressional dignity of one Congressman Jefferson, a Democrat.

"This is not an attempt to cover up partisan wrongdoing" says the Decider, "We are standing on principle here just as we did in the case of Congressman Jefferson."

As the Democrats wander around aimlessly wondering what hit them, Congressman Crookedcritter and the Decider ride off into the sunset in a limosine once owned by Duke Cunningham.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:36 PM
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15. I have to say...there is a constitutional question here...
I have no doubt the Rep. Jefferson is a crook and ought to resign immedietely, and I also doubt the sincerity of the Repubs in this. I suspect their motivation is more personal than constitutional.

However, the scene of enforcement officers from one branch of the government raiding the offices of a member of another branch is disturbing.

What would keep the Congress for example from senidng the Capitol Police into the offices of the FBI chief to find evidence that he lied to Congress or some other offense.

I think a long hard look needs to be taken at this before we endorse this kind of action. Next time it could be for less clear cut, more political reasons.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:58 PM
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16. Does Bush have the Constitutional Authority to do so???!!
That's what I've been wondering today.

How can the President seal the documents belonging to a United States Congressman?

How? How?

Where is the authority granted?

This makes no sense. It's worse than before!!
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:02 PM
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17. Does it make a difference??
He'll do it anyway.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:06 PM
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18. He probably does...
The FBI is under his direction...

The question is did officers of the executive branch have the authority to seize a congressman's records
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