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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:03 PM
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2 CBS News crew killed, Kimberly Dozier "serious" after Iraq attack
Edited on Mon May-29-06 02:05 PM by lwcon
What "happy news" is CBS supposed to air to pacify Bush?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12023343/

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:07 PM
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1. Sad that a "journalist" getting hurt matters more to most...
...than the 2400 dead and 17,000 wounded soldiers.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:28 PM
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3. There are legitimate reasons for that , in addition to the awful one
The awful one, of course, is that the soliders are abstractions and/or pawns for most Americans. Oh how people in this country love to pat themselves on the back for "supporting our troops," as long as it means sticking a ribbon on their cars and shutting up people who want to bring the soldiers home from a disastrous and unnecessary war. And if insisting on that brand of blind and heartless "support" helps keep the corrupt and incompetent GOP in office, how glad they are to see the soldiers sacrifice themselves to keep giving Bush his "War-President" cred.

There are, IMHO, some more understandable reasons, too:

* Fewer journalists are killed in battle than soldiers, so it is a story that stands out

* Journalists are celebrities. Like it or not, celebrities, by definition, attract more attention than other people do.

* It's a measure of the instability of Iraq that American civilians are not safe there. It gives the lie to the Bush idea that the rotten liberal media is just being lazy or slanted by skipping all the great stories about wonderful new schools in Iraq being carved out of a single piece of wood.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:32 PM
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6. I don't think that's true
Every American death is reported on TV news and in newspapers every day. But often, they don't release names, so that family members learn first about their loved ones. On the News Hour with Jim Lehrer, they show pictures of the fallen soldiers along with their name, age, and where they come from in silence.

I think what's jarring about journalists getting hurt or killed is that they're not there to fight, but to report. Did you know that more journalists have died in 3 years of war in Iraq than in the ENTIRE Vietnam War? It's just particularly disgusting that they are being targeted. It's equally disgusting how the RW whines about how war reporters all are a bunch of "liberals" who are only interested in relating "bad news", without taking into consideration how much they risk their lives to report the news from Iraq as best as they can. When I have noticed errors in Iraq War reports, it's not due to any conspiracy, but rather to the fact that it is too dangerous to venture to the areas of the story, even for their Iraqi Runners.

My condolences to the families of these CBS employees, and hope the journalist recovers quickly.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:35 PM
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8. Journalists are not supposed to be targets
Like it or not, the soldiers signed up to go and fight. They're obviously going to be targets when they are taking aim at other people.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 03:38 PM
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13. I think the point is
bush and gang accused networks of not getting out there and reporting the good news and there were comments about them staying in their safe hotel rooms and writing stories about the bad news.

Reporters took umbrage since so many were killed or in danger out getting the news.

Still I think it always hits harder when it is someone we "know". We don't really know reporters but their faces and voices are familiar to us.

It is not just that way in war. People are murdered or die in accidents or of disease everyday. We find it sad if we hear of it. If it is someone we know it hits much harder and if it is someone we love it hurts most of all.

I don't think it is anyone thinking a reporter matters more, they are just more familiar to us.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:09 PM
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2. Condolances to the families of those who died
they were brave people; I only wish the MSM would report the truth of what they saw.

The report didn't say the extent of Dozier's injuries-I wonder if they were similar to the ABC anchor's.
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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:29 PM
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4. But... CBS getting attacked IS happy news to Bush.
Sick, but probably true.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:31 PM
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5. My condolences to the families of the victims
But I can't help but remember Dan Rather saying, "When my country's at war, I want it to win." Or his lame interview with Saddam Hussein in which he talked about the high tech terror that was the American military commin' to get him. Well, Dan, how's that working out for you? Welcome to real war CBS. It ain't a ratings show. People really die, as you've now witnessed. And I believe old Dan himself has witnessed the wrath of little Bushie and his network of lies.

I just want to ask you CBS, was it worth it? Was it worth it whoring for this man who will stab you in the back the first chance he gets? Somehow I doubt it.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:36 PM
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9. Dan Rather knows war, and knows it well.
Don't you know that he was a war reporter for years in Vietnam? I'm not excusing some of his stupid remarks that you mention, but he most certainly knows what war does to a country, its civilians, and to the men (and now women) who fight in it.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:39 PM
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15. Then he should have remembered the lessons from it. n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:56 PM
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16. He was also on the very front lines in Afghanistan when the Russians
were fighting there.

Rather's shit-schlock hurricane coverage was grandstanding. His war coverage was consistently good. He made his bones in Viet Nam then came back and, tag-teaming with Sam Donaldson, took on Nixon. He later soloed against Poppy.

Rather, in my book, was good people.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:35 PM
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7. Working on a "joint Iraq/U.S. exercise"............
but it was only U.S. servicemen, the press and one Iraqi civilian that were killed or injured? :wtf: When are they going to stop this charade that Iraqi soldiers are doing ANYTHING but shadowing Americans in Iraq? They DO NOT lead any security details (in "hot" zones anyway) and are practically worthless without constant "coalition" oversight.

The situation in Iraq hasn't improved one iota but the bush propaganda wurlitzer and their puppy-dog press make it sound like Iraqis are doing most od the fighting now/ :eyes: Yeah, like that will ever happen!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:43 PM
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11. Yeah, you said it. Kerry recently said something good:
He said something like "are you telling me these people can't even drive a truck??". He was basically saying that if you don't shove deadlines down their throats, they will continue to be dependent on coalition forces, which makes sense. Everyone wants to survive, and when they're given low expectations, they live up only to that.

And, BTW, that's from experience. The South Vietnamese, who were being trained, were not very good at all in sharp contrast to the workers in the fields who were quick and hard working. It's the same thing all over again. Obviously, these Iraqis, like their Vietnamese predecessors, just didn't seem to have their heart in it. And who could blame them -- anyone see how the new Iraqi government, which still can't agree on who will be in the Defense and Interior ministries, have agreed on one thing -- each will be provided with two armored cars, which will cost something like $27 million (and Iraq is largely broke, despite the oil). They're as pathetic as * and friends. But you know . . . they're doing a "heckuva job".
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:42 PM
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10. this darn bastard bushit boy ought ot just end the end game and start
dressing up in full military regalia--the man is a dictator...and dictators like to dress in military outfit...it is a sign of their power and control and the bushit boy loves, exudes and worships the power and control he thinks he has.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 03:04 PM
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12. he tried that and the decider thought it didn't make his package
look big enough.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:23 PM
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14. O:-) .. thanks for the laugh...
Edited on Mon May-29-06 07:24 PM by flordehinojos
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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