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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:52 PM
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WSJ: Bush should have accepted Gonzales' resignation
Someone also leaked that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Deputy AG Paul McNulty had threatened to resign if President Bush returned material confiscated in the raid. So here we have someone at Justice trying to intimidate not just the House Speaker but also President Bush. If we were Mr. Bush, we'd have accepted both resignations on those grounds alone.


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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:55 PM
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1. He's gotta have Gonzo to shore up the NSA B. S.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:10 PM
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2. Does raise the question of who's running the show
Bush takes an action -- right or wrong -- in connection with the stuff seized from a congressional office. And his Attorney General threatens to quit if Bush doesn't do as the AG demands. Who's in charge, then? Who's the "decider"? If Bush crosses the AG, does the AG quit as he said he would? Or does he knuckle under? And what would knuckling under do to the AG's credibility? If Bush does as the AG wants, the perception will be that he did it to placate his AG, regardless of whatever rationale is proffered.

The Journal is correct, surprisingly. As soon as Gonzales made his threat public, Bush should have fired him. But he didn't. Why not?
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:17 PM
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4. You asked, "Bush should have fired him. But he didn't. Why not?"
Perhaps it was a Rove stunt. Sure has the smell.

Look at all the controversy that has surrounded Gonzalez since he got into the AG position, not to mention decisions he made prior to that time. He scares me. (And I'll say that under oath, which is more than he will do.)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:12 PM
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3. I agree with the WSJ. He should also accept the resignation of Rummy!
I honestly never thought I would have ever supported Ashcroft over anyone, but I have to say, he was much better than Gonzo!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:30 PM
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5. He should have not accepted AL GORE's office in 2000!
But since when has what "should have been done" ever stopped this gang of CRIMINALS?!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:42 PM
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6. accepting their resignation on that grounds would have taken courage
Bush bends to real threats
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:56 PM
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7. I think it's all a hoax.
I do not believe that Gonzales' raid was done without the prior approval of Bush. The whole idea that somehow Bush was out of the loop, and now he is just in the middle of a struggle between Congress and his AG is just ridiculous. This supposed "leak" that Gonzales threatened to resign if Bush returned the confiscated material is just a bunch of crap. This administration is well known for leaking stuff that is just not true. It would make sense for this leak to be no different.

I mean, think about it, has anyone in the Executive Branch ever challenged Bush and still kept their job? Can anyone name a subordinate (other than Dick Cheney)who would get away with pushing Bush around like this? I don't think so. All those who even questioned the actions of Bush and his inner-circle no longer have jobs in the public sector, regardless of how important they were. (see Colin Powell)

So the way I see it, Bush approved of the raid thinking that his republican lapdogs in the House wouldn't get upset because, after all, Gonzales was going after a Democrat. Then the unthinkable happened: The republicans did get upset, so to distance himself from the situation they make it appear that somehow it was all Gonzales' doing and that now Bush is caught in the middle. Bush doesn't have the mental capacity to understand that the republicans in Congress would fear the precedent set by the raid. They fear that if a Democrat got into the White House in '08, they also could be subject to the same type of raid. Then those corrupt bastards would be exposed from top to bottom.

Bush, being the fascist dictator that he is, has his fingerprints all over this one. I will not, for one second, believe that he wasn't aware of what was going on from the get-go. Gonzales is his boy, after all, another con-man who has had to kiss Bush's ass to get where his is today.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:49 PM
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9. I agree. Bogus. Bogus.
There is no way that Gonzales would resign. And McNulty just got this promotion to Deputy AG -- he's not going anywhere either.

I don't believe it for a minute.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:20 AM
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11. Another miscalculation - like the sale of the ports

Bush et al didn't appreciate the reaction from Congress.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:24 PM
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8. This link may be better
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:56 AM
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10. laughter,....
everyone seems to forget, Mr. Bush is not the president, that Vice President is running this Country, the government, policies, and all actions taken in our name. Bush is just the figure head to make us like what is happening.
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