Wes Clark is the best spokesman we have! (Just crushed O'Reilly)

[sampsonblk]

He just lit up Bill O'Reilly on Faux News regarding the
Haditha Massacre and John Murtha's comments.

Wow.  Where are the other Dems on this issue?

[eleny]

1. A few details would be ever so peachy

[judy from nj]

3. It was all about Murtha

Wes really defended him, and contradicted all O'Reilly's talking points. He said Murtha is a congressman and it is job to get the truth out. By the way I really laughed when he told BOR that he was glad he now saw the Iraq war as unnecessary.

[eleny]

5. Thanks - that last jab was a pip!

[sampsonblk]

7. "Iraq war as unnecessary"

That WAS a great shot, wasn't it?

[Texas_Kat]

8. Did WKC actually say "Glad you've changed your mind about the war..."

to O'Leill.

Camera was on Wes... didn't see if Bill spewed his coffee out on the desk.

You could just see Clark, pleased to have 'set the hook and speared the whale".

[sampsonblk]

6. The Details !

Unlike real news hosts, O'Reilly played the story as being about John's Murtha's assault on the Marines. He hates the military, or course.

After O'Reilly set that all up, he brought on Gen Clark who promptly turned the conversation back to the real subject - which is the massacre and the cover-up.

What really struck me about Gen Clark's appearance was that he continued to stand by Rep Murtha, despite O'Reilly's attempts to smear the congressman.

Gen Clark's key points:

- You won't find any officer in uniform who thinks this is good. No one in the know supports this behavior.

- This was an optional war that the pResident chose, and congressman Murtha is concerned about what its done to our troops, "and so am I."

- Congressman Murtha isn't making this up. He is well respected and the top brass talk to him all the time. He's passing on what he's been told from real sources in the Pentagon.

- Its a legitimate legislative function that he's performing by raising questions about what's going on. Thas his job.

- There was a previous President under investigation, and many in the media didn't feel it was important to wait until the entire investigation was completed. So there precedent for getting involved early on.

- O'Reilly tried to imply that US troops killed civilians at Iwo Jima and the Battle of the Bulge. Gen Clark told him to prove it. O'Reilly said its well known that US troops shot SS troops who were trying to surrender. Gen Clark (wisely) pointed out if a man is shooting at you and suddenly drops his gun and says "Ha! Now you can't kill me," that's one thing. But that's NOT what happened in Haditha.

O'Reilly gave up: Well, I could be wrong, but... Well why doesn't Murtha come on my show, then??

[trillian]

15. And he was all red faced, blustering and....

...tripping over his words, when he said "I could be wrong".

Bwahahahahaha!

[stevedeshazer]

17. Hey, I really appreciate the loose transcription

I didn't and couldn't see it on my teevee.

Thanks for the play-by play. :)

[calmblueocean]

22. Thanks for the good recap!

I love it when I can read it on DU and not have to watch O'Really in the first place. :)

[Hekate]

40. Thanks so much for the recap. I never watch O'Reilly -- not enough antacid

I never watch O'Reilly -- there's not enough antacid in the house to make it possible. Not enough in the whole town, come to think of it.

However, it is most pleasurable to read about Wes Clarke batting him around. The man is truly an officer and a gentleman.

Hekate

[eviltwin2525]

48. Iwo Jima?!?!? WTF?!

What a moron. (OK, I'm being redundant again; this is O'Lie-ly we're talking about.) Iwo Jima was uninhabited before the Japanese Army began digging in.

[MadMaddie]

2. He...He..you remember when O'Leilly tried to tell Clark

about military tactics....oh Clark ate him up and spit him out like a piece of chew tobacco....oh it was rich...

[Kingofalldems]

21. O'Reilly knows all about military tactics

When he was a kid he played army man in his backyard. :rofl:

[blm]

4. Clark is always good with O'Reilly.

.

[onehandle]

9. The General should ask Bill about his "Action" in South America.

Or wherever the Hell it "was".

Two old warhorses swapping stories. Heartwarming.

[Texas_Kat]

10. You don't get it do you?

Clark's had B.O.'s number for forever.

You should appreciate that there's at least one Democrat that can go on Fox and leave their talking heads sputtering.

Takes a bit of starch, I believe.

[senseandsensibility]

11. I'm sorry to interject here

but I think the poster was being sarcastic about BOR's "combat" experience that he so readily brags about.

[onehandle]

12. I was joking about O'Lielly claiming he was in some skirmish.

Al Franken makes fun of him on this subject all the time.

I'm glad Wes cleans his clock.

[Donna Zen]

14. Gotcha

When I first looked, there was a typo in the title. Ya had me wondering what we were talking about.

You're right. Although I've never seen fox, except in clips, I remember that GI O'Leilly did extend his resume to a SA skirmish. He is such a liar. And he is a stupid liar for trying to spin Clark.

[Texas_Kat]

16. Oh, I'm sorry.....

Sometimes subtlety is lost on me..... but thanks for being gracious about it.

[wiley]

13. Agreed.

[FrenchieCat]

18. Yeah......

Wes Clark has kicked beaucoup bootey on Fox!



:headbang:

[tishaLA]

19. I'll have to catch the replay

cause this sounds just too good.

[phylla]

23. when is the replay? Do you know?

[FrenchieCat]

24. Replays at 11:00 p.m. ET, 8:00 p.m. PT

I do believe.

[phylla]

25. thanks Frenchie- hopefully the daily show will be a repeat again.too

[Adelante]

20. I thought O'Reilly didn't want him on anymore

Bill was skeered :D

[Texas_Kat]

26. Clark wasn't "in the studio" though he was probably in DC/somewhere close

BILL probably felt safe. He should' ve known better. :scared:

Wes Clark: the Democrats' tactical nuke aimed at RW Talking Points everywhere.

The video should be posted pretty soon.

[FrenchieCat]

27. Make sure to post it please.....

K?

[Texas_Kat]

29. Yes indeed

Takes a while 'cos they always do a transcript.... Clark has a priceless operation, doesn't he?

[Donna Zen]

30. You mean....

Secretary of Kicking Ass

...and Chairman of Taking Names


(as someone named PeterSD said of the General) I saved it 'cause it made me laugh.

[Texas_Kat]

32. "General Smackdown"

:rofl:

[sendero]

28. This is why I love Clark.

... every time I see him on TV he makes mincemeat of the RW talking heads and he does it with CLASS!

[Berry Cool]

31. Wow, Bill actually allowed someone on his show that could skewer him?

Too perfect! Guess "KO" is not the only one who can "KO" Loofah Boy...

[CarolNYC]

33. I have not seen this yet...

Good to know that Wes was his usual brilliant self.

BO is so hard to watch, even when Wes is on...yet, if I can force myself to get through it, he provides some of my favorite moments of Wes TV. So great to see Wes take him down a peg or two or three or four...and without raising his voice or losing his smile.

[joeprogressive]

34. Which segment of the program was it?

I think I missed it on the replay. Watching Malkin makes my stomach turn. I didn't think I could despise anyone more than Coulter or O'Reilly.

[Texas_Kat]

35. After his initial rant

so pretty much at the top of the show.

[FrenchieCat]

36. There will be a video up soon, I should think.....

And I would say that O'Reilly really made himself out to be even more ridiculous than normal...if that's possible!

[rucky]

49. And that's why he's the only RW talker I'll watch.

I want to be there when his head explodes.

[sampsonblk]

37. You HAVE to see it

Great stuff. I bet Bill-O is still mad.

[Downtown Hound]

38. I've said it before and I'll say it again

GORE/CLARK in '08! That's a ticket that WILL win.

[Phrogman]

39. Anyone else ever think with Clarke and Gore in the White House

How fucking proud you'd feel to be an American again.

Please dont let em, run that $#&&*% Hillery Clinton, please not her I beg of you all.

[renate]

41. you said it!

Can you imagine how wonderful it would be... how wonderful it WILL be... to be able to hold our heads up high again? To know that America once again stands for freedom and democracy?

It gives me chills, it really does--happy chills. I know America can and will be that way after 2008.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Adelante]

42. Video up anywhere yet?

No Fox here except Vicente :)

[Texas_Kat]

43. Video, audio and transcript is up

http://securingamerica.com/node/1047

[CarolNYC]

45. Oh good....

I'll have to watch....

Here's my mom's take on the interview...and sometimes she's pretty tought on Wes in her 'reviews'....so last night must have been good...

"Good job Wes! Neither lost it, but they did have
their disagreements. Wes spoke up and was not
intimidated by Bill. I think Bill was squirming, but
he was civil. They may have a policy not to fight with
their own consultants."

I like that "Bill was squirming"...haha

[imlost]

59. Thanks. The General kicks butt!!! n/t

[JNelson6563]

44. Colbert should have Clark on

and ask him why he was so hard on "Pappa Bear". :toast:

Julie

[Clark2008]

46. Of course he is and that's one of the (many) reasons I support him.

He would get a goodly number of disgruntled Republicans into the blue column should he be the nominee.

Many people just cannot fathom that a lifelong military man would be a liberal Democrat, so he fits our bill to a T. He's a liberal who's not perceived as a liberal and would appeal to moderate Republicans and Independents alike.

We just have to get him through the primary (because, unfortunately, there are too many liberals who are also the norm and cannot believe or understand that Wes is a liberal).

[truebrit71]

47. Once again O'Lielly gets has ass handed to him....

The General really smacked him down....Comparing the executing of POW's to murdering civilians is like apples and oranges....and the General called him on it.....I continue to think that the General making regaular appearances on faux Spews will reap rewards when it comes time to vote for President again. Assuming the "liberal media" doesn't choose our candidate for us, and the nominee is Wesley Clark, his numerous appearances in the Lion's Den will pay dividends as far as moderate repubs swinging his way....Especially if they run someone like McCain, Guilliani or Romney.....

NOT a career politician, NOT beholden to special interest groups and NOT a chickenhawk....

THAT's why the DLC and the establishment Dems are so afraid of him...he isn't a wholly-owned subsidiary of the DLC like Clinton/Gore etc etc..

[Clark2008]

50. The DLC actually has praised him before.

But, of course, he's not a member, so they'd rather have some mealy-mouthed push-over who is beholden to them and all their corporate-friendly donors instead of someone who could actually, you know, win.

[Adelante]

51. General Clark works with everybody

He doesn't believe in factionalism and feels he can probably find an issue to agree on and help move forward within the full spectrum of Democrats. I asked him once and he advised to look at individuals and where they stand on issues that matter to me in my own conscience, instead of what group they belong to or what label they wear. I took that to heart, because it made sense in terms of actually winning. So, yes, he's no owned subsidiary of anybody, but he works with the DLC actually very well, as he does with Chairman Dean on the 50 state strategy very well.

[Disturbed]

52. Proof that Bilbo thnks that his audience.

love him no matter how foolish he often is. Bilbo must be at least smart enough to know that Clark will show him up to be the ignorant, lying fool that he is. This happens every time when Clark is on.

[President Kerry]

53. Instant classic... thanks!

Chickenhawk Bill clueless as ever.. him and his ilk (never having served) questioning Murtha's stones.. Unbelievable nerve. Knockout in the 1st round. Bill, you lose.

[CarolNYC]

54. Crooks and Liars

Video is up on Crooks and Liars:

Gen. Clark joined Bill to discuss Haditha and John Murtha. It's nice to see O'Reilly come around on Iraq in his TPM, but he misses the point completely on Murtha and the marines.

Murtha has said over and over again that these actions happened because of the stress they are under. When Bill tried to say that this type of behavior occurred in conflicts the US was previously involved in; Wesley Clark got a little hot under the collar.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/31.html#a8518

I finally got to watch this...Boy, Wes looked like he couldn't believe some of the stuff that was coming out of O'Lielly's mouth....It looked as though he were thinking "is this guy for real?" Good job Wes...O'Reilly looked like such an idiot...

I also heard Sam Seder play a clip on Majority Report tonight.

[sampsonblk]

56. Excellent link, thanks

Got that one saved for future reference

[Totally Committed]

55. Wes was OUTSTANDING!

Everyone should catch the video of this.

TC

[lwcon]

57. Mini-transcript of the best two O'Reilly quotes

O'Reilly admitted:

"The chaos in Afghanistan and Iraq will never end"

"...Iraq should be a lesson learned. We can not ever again put American boots on the ground in a hostile Arab country. Iraq was an optional war. There will always be, or there were other ways, I should say, of removing Saddam."

___

Hey, the liberal light is always on at the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy. Please stop by and say "hi!"

[sampsonblk]

58. Olbermann talking about O'Reilly tonight!

This one segment with Gen Clark is bound to be remembered for a long time.

Olbermann, along with others, has pointed out that O'Reilly erroneously claimed US troops had shot "innocent civilians" during the Battle of the Bulge. Later, Bill-O changed the "innocent civilians" to "unarmed SS troops trying to surrender." All nonsense.