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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:04 PM
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Rasmussen poll now reporting Santorum trails Casey by 23% in PA.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/State%20Polls/May%202006/paSenateMay.htm

Santorum is deep in the well going into the 06 election in Pennsylvania.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:06 PM
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1. That is fantastic news
I truly hope this is a sign of things to come.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:07 PM
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2. Even if it's really only 5% it's enough.
Edited on Wed May-31-06 12:07 PM by The_Casual_Observer
Now on to Virginia.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:30 PM
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10. If it gets too close, they'll steal it n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:39 PM
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14. They haven't updated VA yet....
Maybe they're waiting til after the June 13 primary?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:01 PM
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21. How fine a thing it would be if Sen. Allen had to fight for his
life in that senate race!

Go, Dems!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:07 PM
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24. This is an attainable goal !
:hi: OC....

Now if we can only get Miller and Webb to stop attacking each other, we can get to the issues that Allen seems "bored" with in the Senate. Yes, he's on record saying that.

My fear, he polls high for '08 among republicans, and this guy is dumber and shallower than Bush :cry:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:13 PM
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28. If anything, Catchawave, you're being generous in your
description of Allen! I'll keep my fingers crossed on that race.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:08 PM
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3. Whoa... that's a huge jump.
Other polls had him 14-16% behind Casey not too long ago. What's up?

-MR
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:11 PM
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4. Rasmussen, which often tends toward the conservative reading,
has kept polls of this race for a while. The link gives the gradual numbers over time, with Santorum really reeling at this point.

The numbers at this point feel insurmountable for Santorum. Twenty-three points down as an incumbent.
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:11 PM
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5. HOLLLLLLLLARRRRRRRRR
I will be almost as happy to see Santorum along loose as I will be to see the Democrats take back both the House and Senate (not quite as happy, but almost)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:13 PM
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7. I can understand that sentiment, no problem.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:12 PM
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6. Recommended. -He dropped 10pts in a month
Edited on Wed May-31-06 12:12 PM by Rose Siding
Is this a result of the residency issue? Hasn't that been his worst press lately?

People are really noticing! :bounce:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:14 PM
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8. Hi, Rose Siding. Good question on the residency problem.
I guess that's a factor, but we need to hear from some Pennsylvania Dems to see what's up.

Anyway it's great news, huh.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:39 PM
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15. Four things ...
First off, he is a freak ... Websters Dictionary definition of a freak ... Leading, to ...

Second off, people are WAY onto his backstabbling, win at all costs, Delay style of politics ... He ran and won the first time by RAILING on the incumbent, who had a house in VA, and now that is the same gall darn thing this guy has done ... This was a festering sore for him to begin with, but he has done this reverse attack ad BS with it, saying that Casey people were stalking his family when some locals reported that the house his all but abondonded ... EVERYONE knows about the 700,000 castle he lives in Virginia and that he keeps his Pittsburgh shack to say he lives there (he has voted in VA more than PA since he got elected, and also the flap over him cyberschooling his kids in VA and using PA tax money to pay for it) ... ALL of that is bad enough, but his BIZARRE inverse attack on it is being taken as it should, him sticking his thumb into our eyes even more ...

Third, the reason the margin slipped was that Casey was taking some hits in the Primary from the extreme left of the party who were really hot for Pennachio ... Now that the primary is over, and Pennachio got hammered, Casey isn't getting hammered by his own party like he was ...

Fourth ... Casey is a great candidate ... I know that people don't want to hear this, but he was picked for a good reason ... I know that rubs the far left a bit, but the guy has GREAT name recognition, and is a just off center progressive, which is right about where the state is ... He has money, enough to be able to fight on Santorums level ... He has a decent presense, and is in a position where he can let Santorum be the freak he is, and look like it, and just no do anything to screw it up ...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:48 PM
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16. I'm comfortable with your description of Santorum. He does have
Edited on Wed May-31-06 12:51 PM by Old Crusoe
a sort of other-worldly, not-entirely-human aspect.

Thanks for the update on the race. I knew Pennachio was favored by some, and I'd prefer that Casey be pro-choice, but on the other hand, my distaste for Santorum is enormous, and I'll be whooping it up if we take that seat in November.

It seems as if Santorum must have known the residency problem would come back to haunt him, and yet he didn't do much about it except go on the attack. Not smart.

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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:50 PM
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17. "Far Left" meaning anyone who believes women have rights and Democrats
should fight for them. :eyes:

Sheesh, this slide to the craven side is looking fouler and fouler.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:53 PM
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18. Is your post directed at me? My posts in this thread mostly call
Senator Santorum to task.

I don't have to live in Pennsylvania, do I, to dislike the way the man votes?
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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:17 PM
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29. Of course not!! My reply was directed to Cosmocat's #15
in which the right wing talking point of a "far left fringe" is dragged out of the toolbox.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:28 PM
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36. I took it to mean that the debate in PA between Pennachio and
Casey was relevant and vibrant, which from what I've read and heard, it was.

For my part, I would prefer a pro-Choice candidate but would not dispute the degree of atrocities Santorum is capable of. In previous posts on DU I've described Santorum as inhuman, almost insect-like. Not ethically reverberant.

I thought Santorum's remarks about the Supreme Court decision regarding sodomy was absolutely medieval.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:29 PM
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37. all do respect ...
and I do mean that ...

But, "woman's rights" is one of a great many issues we have to concern ourselves about here on the left ...

Ain't NO politician EVERYTHING to EVERYONE ... In that context, Casey CAN beat scumbag, Penny would have been KILLED by scumbag ...

Not even a choice who we need to get behind ...
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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:44 PM
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38. If you truly are feeling respectful, I think you've time to edit your post
You can remove all that trashy reference to the "fringe." Maybe then "we" "here on the left...." might offer you a roadmap, so's you can find your way around and all.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:38 PM
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39. What ...
are you talking about ... trashy reference to "fringe" ???

I didn't say FRINGE cause that wasn't my point ...
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:42 PM
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40. I said extreme ...
Not the best choice, maybe, but point being it was on the left side of the left ...

I didn't have time to pretty it up ...
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:32 PM
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13. That's how he got into Congress
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:25 PM
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9. Aren't the Pa. Republicans going to dump (p)Rick?
I know there are several people running against him in the primary.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:32 PM
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12. I don't know the score, underpants. I may get on the phone later and
see what's what.

This is a huge drop for Santorum. And of course he richly deserves his difficulties.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:53 PM
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19. We had our primary on May 16th
I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, I have my doubts about this poll. If Casey is at all able to win it will be by the narrowest of margins.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:57 PM
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20. I didn't conduct the poll, mrgorth. I'm reporting what Rasmussen
is reporting, and that is that Santorum appears to be dropping like a rock.

If a second poll conducted soon finds the same, or nearly the same numbers, it would suggest that Rasmussen might be right.

Most senate races' poll disparities "tighten" as the election itslef draws nigh. But if Rasmussen is correct, and frankly they often tend toward the Republicans, Santorum is facing a steep climb.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:06 PM
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23. I'm not accusing you of anything
I'm Irish and naturally pessimistic. Defeating Rick is going to take every last ounce of effort.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:10 PM
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26. Well, do what you can, because few of the rest of us are fans of Santorum.
Edited on Wed May-31-06 01:10 PM by Old Crusoe
If Casey prevails in November, and I suspect it will be a lot closer than it is now, the GOP is looking at significant regime change in the Senate. THE CAT BUTCHER is stepping down and if Santorum loses, that's the No. 1 and No. 3 guys gone. I expect Mitch McConnell and Trent Lott to duke it out for Frist's post.

My niece just got accepted on a program to Galway University, and she's yelping with delight. I hear you about the Irish. In addition to having one big branch of the lineage run right thru western Ireland, I'm a devotee of the literature also. One hell of a lot of wildly talented writers for such a small acreage.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:05 PM
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22. I didn't know you had the primary
sorry I am as not up to date as you are.

Did anyone run against him? If so then the answer would have been YES.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 04:20 PM
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42. I believe Santorum ran unopposed in our primary. n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:20 AM
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51. Did you see the numbers Casey got in the primaries
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 08:21 AM by LynneSin
His totals exceeded the votes that Rick Santorum received by 75k votes. And that doesn't factor in that Casey had two opponents that received about 100k combined.

To top things off, Lynn Swann received about 25k more votes than Santorum. This is a primary and even if you don't have an opponent you still have your name on the ballot. So that means 25,000 republicans took the time to vote for Lynn Swann for their gov. candidate and yet couldn't be bothered to pull the level for Rick Santorum.

Will it be an easy win for Casey? No - he will have to fight the entire time. However, provided that Casey doesn't decide to publically sacrifice virgins while drinking the blood of unborn fetus on public television, he should be fine this election. Ron Klink lost in 2000 because he had no money to run a strong race against Santorum and decided to scale back campaigning in PHiladelphia to make up that difference. Casey has a massive size war chest, best name recognition in the state (btw, in 2004, Casey received more votes than any other candidate running for a statewide office EVER including presidental candidates. And Casey was only running for state treasurer and had an opponent).

With Santorum's populary as low as it is, it would be difficult for him to still win.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 04:33 PM
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43. Santorum was unopposed in the primary which was held on May 16
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:31 PM
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11. residency problems for Ricky
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:10 PM
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25. Uh-Oh! Somebody call Diebold! They've got their work cut out for them this
time! How dare we not make it easy for them to steal!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:12 PM
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27. All Right! Great news. Casey will be just fine as a Senator...
...and he'll e on my "A" list for settling the score against the nastiest guy on the block, and that's saying a lot. There is so much distasteful material on Santorum, it is not worth mentioning. It's time for him to go. Casey should get a medal if he pulls this one off.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:04 AM
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50. Agreed. I think the balance of the Senate will be better if some of
its nastiest members are shown the door. Santorum is extremely divisive. A really nasty piece of work if you ask me.

I won't miss him one iota.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:17 PM
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30. ahh, so PA will get a new anti-abortion, pro-war Senator.
Way to go, Dem insiders!
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:26 PM
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35. Right ...
Better to have a feisty, well meaning do well type who gets absolutely killed in the general election by a guy whose standing as the biggest deluded, dirtbag of a freak politician in this country will become unchallenged only when Tom Delay stands down ...
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:21 PM
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31. Bye bye, Senator Man-on-dog. NT.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:22 PM
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32. Okay, down 23% in PA
But how are the numbers in Santorum's home state of Virginia? I'll bet the liberal pollsters aren't asking people there!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:24 PM
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34. LOL!
:7
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:24 PM
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33. But Santorum doesn't even LIVE in PA!
:evilgrin:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:02 AM
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49. Hi, RobertSeattle. I wonder if Santorum's internal pollsters have
already laid it out for him, already told him he was toast in this race.

That's hush-hush info, but I would really love to know what those internal polls say.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:55 PM
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41. Awesome News!
Way to go Pennsylvania.. kick that nasty pointy-nosed bastard out!!!
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:15 PM
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44. Rassmussen is horribly biased toward Republicans.
If they say it's 23%, it means Man On Dog is in REAL trouble.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 08:40 PM
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45. I was thinking the same. Let the big blue wave begin in Pennsylvania!
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:06 PM
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46. How are they "horribly biased"?
I've been following Rasmussen through '04 and '06, and they've been on the ball. Even in close races like Minnesota and Missouri, Rasmussen's polling has it as close as every other major polling firm has it.
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:08 PM
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47. Casey's bump is due to winning the primary
And solidifying the left vote. Before the primary, Casey had support from around 70% of self-identified Democrats. This poll after the primary showed his Democratic support up to 87%.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:39 AM
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48. Heading for Harris &Bushwille.
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