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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:53 PM
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"New Justice Samuel Alito cast the tie-breaking vote."
Just like he was supposed to.
Now aren't we glad the Dems saved that filibuster for something important?

High Court Limits Whistleblower Lawsuits
Dissenting justices said Tuesday that the ruling could silence would-be whistleblowers who have information about governmental misconduct.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/30/AR2006053000463.html?nav=rss_nation/special

Justices, 5-4, Limit Whistleblower Suits
...By a 5-4 vote, justices said the nation's 20 million public employees do not have carte blanche free speech rights to disclose government's inner-workings. New Justice Samuel Alito cast the tie-breaking vote.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/washington/30cnd-scotus.html?hp&ex=1149048000&en=57d52201086729ae&ei=5094&partner=homepage

THE ALITO DEMS
We, the voters who elect Democrats in every election, were utterly and completely betrayed by 19 Democratic Senators that we elected, all of whom can be reached at 888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641:

Akaka (HI), Baucus (MT), Bingaman (NM), Byrd (WV), Cantwell (WA), Carper (DE), Conrad (ND), Dorgan (ND), Inouye (HI), Johnson (SD), Kohl (WI), Landrieu (LA), Lieberman (CT), Lincoln (AR), Nelson (FL), Nelson (NE), Pryor (AR), Rockefeller (WV), Salazar (CO)

ALSO, HERE IS THE 'GANG OF 14' WHO DECIDED FOR EVERYONE ELSE THERE SHOULD BE NO ALITO FILIBUSTER:

Democrats * Joseph I. Lieberman, Connecticut * Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia * E. Benjamin Nelson, Nebraska * Mary Landrieu, Louisiana * Daniel Inouye, Hawaii * Mark Pryor, Arkansas * Ken Salazar, Colorado

Republicans * John S. McCain III, Arizona * Lindsey O. Graham, South Carolina * John Warner, Virginia * Olympia Snowe, Maine * Susan M. Collins, Maine * R. Michael DeWine, Ohio * Lincoln Chafee, Rhode Island

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:00 PM
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1. would the vote have been different
if Rhenquist and O'Conner were still serving on the Court?


and -

What's the matter - didn't you get enough of trashing Dems with this yesterday?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:33 PM
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2. I personally think O'Connor would have voted differently than Alito..
Rehnquist would have voted like Roberts. Alito was the swing vote. I am still angry that not enough Dem's went along with Senator Kerry on a filibuster. Let's face it, Kerry was right about this guy.
I don't think there is anything wrong with voicing our disappointment in the other Democrats that allowed this man on the bench.
I don't mean to bash them, but to point out they had made a careless and costly mistake that has now eroded to a degree our personal rights.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:25 PM
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4. Yes.
Edited on Wed May-31-06 02:34 PM by cyberpj
I do think O'Conner would have voted differently.

And -
Just wanted to keep the info present for people to call and complain who might have missed it yesterday. We DO still have the right to complain, don't we?

And -
I've been following Sibel Edmonds and other whistleblowers who have been silenced way too long on important issues the public will never learn because of Bush admin's "national security" gag so this was an important issue for me.



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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:45 PM
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7. You are only supposed to attack the GOP-not DEMs who support them.
Edited on Wed May-31-06 02:51 PM by Dr Fate
When DEMS and Republicans whole-heartedly agree on something, like Alito and the Unitary Executive or the CIA director nomination,you are only supposed to "trash" the Republicans, not their collaborators.

Apaprently Republicans, not Democrats now represent you on the issues, according to many DUers.

Forward your grievances to these Republicans, not the Democrats you voted for and sent money to who agree & vote with Republicans!

Didnt you get the memo?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:42 PM
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6. he is only "trashing" the Pro-Alito, pro-Unitary Executive "Dems"
And those collaborating cowards need to be "trashed"- loud and long.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:52 PM
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8. I think O'Conner would NOT have voted the way Alito did.
Not on this issue.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:37 PM
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3. Ugghh ..
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:41 PM
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5. I'll never, ever forget that shameful, corwardly day for "Democrats."
Shame, shame, shame.

Hang your head low is all I can tell you.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 05:33 PM
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10. We should all remember!!!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 07:17 PM
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11. Scholar and gentleperson you.
Truth be,
I did forget until this decision got news
And that upset me.

Issues overwhelm these days
by plan.

I mourn that it works.


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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:35 AM
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15. I wonder how many decades-not years-but decades we will deal with Alito.
The "democrats" who thought helping him & Bush would help them keep their jobs will be long gone well before he retires, I'm sure.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 07:21 PM
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12. Never forget their names!
Every time a vote goes this way, say a nice loud F*CK YOU Akaka, Baucus, Bingaman, Bryd, Cantwell, Carper, Conrad, Dorgan, Inouye, Kohl, Landrieu, Lieberman, Lincoln, (Ben) Nelson, (Bill) Nelson, Pryor, Rockerfeller, Salazar... traitors, all!

TC
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:12 PM
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16. Also, we should commend your Senators for fighting the battle
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 12:16 PM by karynnj
This was a winnable fight - and these people didn't see "extraordinary circcumstances".

Kerry in begging them to vote against cloture, tried to push them to seeing this was a time to fight. From the Senate record:

"Nothing can erase Judge Alito's record. We all know what we are getting. No one will be able to say, in 5 to 10 years, that they are surprised by the decisions Judge Alito makes from the bench. People who believe in privacy rights, who fight for the rights of the most disadvantaged, who believe in balancing the power between the President and Congress need to take a stand now.

I understand that, for many, voting for cloture on a judicial nomination is a very difficult decision, particularly on this Supreme Court nominee. I also understand that, for some, a nomination must be an ``extraordinary circumstance'' in order to justify that vote. Well, I believe this nomination is an extraordinary circumstance. What could possibly be more important than this--an entire shift in the direction of the Court?

This is a lifetime appointment to a Court where nine individuals determine what our Constitution protects and what our laws mean. Once Judge Alito is confirmed, we can never take back this vote. Not after he prevents many Americans from having their discrimination cases heard by a jury. Not after he allows more government intrusions into our private lives. Not after he grants the President the power to ignore Federal law rather than protecting our system of checks and balances. These questions do not arise out of speculation. They do not arise out of mere statement. They arise out of the record the judge has carved for himself.

Kennedy said:

"Finally, if you are looking for someone who is going to be willing to stand up to the executive branch of Government at a time that he is going to exceed his power and authority and the law of this country--it is not going to be Judge Alito . It is not going to be. He is not going to be similar to Sandra Day O'Connor who, in the Hamdi case, said: Oh, no. No President, even in times of war, is above the law in this country. He is not going to be similar to Warren Burger, who said ``No, Mr. President. No, you have to surrender the papers,'' at the time of the Watergate break-ins. ``No, Mr. President.''

This is the time. This is the issue. This happens to be the wrong judge at the wrong time for the wrong Court.

I hope this body will give us the time to be able to explain this in greater detail to our fellow Americans so a real vote can be taken. When it is, I believe this nominee will not be approved. "



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 04:08 PM
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9. I know them all. I do not forget. I will not forgive.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 07:22 PM
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13. I hate saying "I TOLD YOU SO"
But this is just the first travesty Alito will commit against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights! I hope the Gang of 14 who sold us out are happy. I just want to know who's gonna screw us more, Roberts or Alito?
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 08:09 PM
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14. The Dems kept their powder dry. That's the most important thing, don'cha
know?
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:57 PM
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19. I think we should keep our powder dry when these Dems ask for renomination
to their seats.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:48 PM
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17. Elections have consequences
we couldn't have gotten anyone better.
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 09:19 PM
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18. I wish I could say I'm surprised to see Snowe and Collins
on the list. But I'm not.
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