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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:33 AM
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George Bush, Alcoholic - Part 1
I found this link via Andrew Sullivan's blog:


George Bush, Alcoholic - Part 1

In 1999, responding to questions about his use of drugs and alcohol, George Bush told the Washington Post, "Well, I don't think I had an addiction. You know it's hard for me to say. I've had friends who were, you know, very addicted...and they required hitting bottom going to A.A. I don't think that was my case."

Having observed the president's behavior in office, I wonder if he might be wrong. Perhaps not only the president, but also his administration, suffers from alcoholism. After all, arrogance and the inability to take responsibility for one's actions, classic alcoholic traits, have become trademarks of the Bush presidency.

George Bush's problems are not only personal. By necessity, they have become the problems of our entire country. And our country is like the family of an alcoholic, devastated by the drinker's actions but powerless to stop them.


http://health.yahoo.com/experts/theprinciples/90/george-bush-alcoholicpart-1;_ylt=AgZkQapBuBN8K_WiuvNuod5Tis8F

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:41 AM
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1. I think there's little doubt that Bush is an alcoholic.
You can tell by looking at the man. He has splotchy skin, his eyes give it away often, he has trouble gathering his thoughts, his speech mannerisms, his body language, all are typical symptoms of alcoholism. Recovering alcoholics who are well on the road to recovery understand that admitting you are/were an alcoholic is the first step. Bush hasn't done that, so he isn't in recovery.

Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. The disease never goes away, but people in recovery control it instead of it controlling them. Bush is not in control of his disease.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:55 AM
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2. I agree ~ He acts like a drunk in a bar

getting loud and angry at people.

Slurring his words, trying to push doors open that are shut tight
Doesn't give a shit what is happening
Always putting people down.

George Bush lives in Bar America.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:26 AM
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6. And he's definitely not in recovery. nt
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:59 PM
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9. So you're saying he's a "dry drunk"?
I have a friend who's Dad is an alcoholic and she used that term about him. She says that's for an alcoholic who isn't drinking but also isn't following the program (12 Step). Outwardly, they seemed recovered, but inwardly, the turmoil is still there. Is that about right?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:05 AM
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3. My dad (RIP) was an alcoholic. I can see many traits George shares
with him.

The surface charm, followed by breathtaking acts of stupidity and anger. The odd cuts and scrapes. The inappropriate "humor" and mannerisms around strangers.

Saw it a million times.

As much as I think George is a total assclown, I would like to see him get into a recovery program and sort his life out. The side effect would be he might not, MIGHT NOT be such a dipshit President.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:15 AM
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4. This part really rings true to me based on personal experience.
"our country is like the family of an alcoholic, devastated by the drinker's actions but powerless to stop them."

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:17 AM
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5. So, are we a nation of codependents in denial?
I hate psychobabble, but it really does apply in this case.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:07 PM
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7. I believe it would have been enlightening if the sheriff had been able to
give a sobriety test to Deadeye Dick after he "cut and ran", I mean "shot and hid".
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:10 PM
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8. There was a damned good reason the Secret Service would not let
law enforcement officers at Darth Cheney for about 18 hours. He was DRUNK!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:29 PM
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10. From the same author, this is actually helpful for all of us
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/theprinciples/bio;_ylt=AoEtRLBq3VMc9EOgX8BUdw9Tis8F

The Principles (12 Step)

SURRENDER
What word could be more horrifying in modern life than surrender? It brings up fears of complete failure and helplessness. But, in many parts of our lives, that's exactly where we are already.
Have you tried to get your husband to clean the bathroom lately? How successful have you been in wishing away the traffic jam you find on the freeway every morning? Do you revert to a petulant, screaming baby after a few days with your parents? Is your boss likely to wake-up tomorrow and realize he was wrong to be a complete ass for the last ten years?
We are powerless over most of these things. The only thing we can change is ourselves; the way to start is through surrender.

HOPE
Now that you've surrendered and can see how you have absolutely no power over whatever is making you crazy, you really have a problem. Things have gotten so bad that you may even realize that they're never going to change. What do you do now that you see your problem fully?
In times of crisis, along with a string of smoking expletives, you've probably also whispered that secret little prayer, "Dear God, please help me." For most of us, particularly those of us who aren't religious, it's just a figure of speech. But what if we all had our own personal God (call it a Higher Power if that's easier) who could indeed help us when we are literally helpless? Might we start to feel some hope for the first time in years?

FAITH
Once we've surrendered to being powerless over some problem and mustered up some hope that something greater than ourselves could help us, we have to make a leap of faith. This doesn't necessarily entail a religious ceremony or a big revelation. Maybe you feel some peace in the world when you walk by the ocean or look up at the stars in the night sky. Whether or not you're religious, you know that the ocean is more powerful than you...just try stopping the waves. You know the expanse of night sky is bigger than you are...just try flying to the stars.
In those moments and in that frame of mind, we try to have faith that if we turn our lives over to something bigger than ourselves and do some simple work, things can change.

RESPONSIBILITY
How much do you blame your problems on other people or on the world itself? It's easy to be a victim but our lives change when we begin to take responsibility for our actions. My boss is an ass...but I choose to stay in my job because it's safe. My mother is controlling...but I'm still so childish that she needs to be. Other drivers make me crazy...but I talk on the cell phone because my calls are really important.
There are also very serious situations where we can't possibly have any responsibility...but we do. My uncle molested me as a child...but I continue to punish myself by not letting a man in my life. Cancer has ruined my life...but I refuse to fully live in the time I have left. I never had the chance to go to college...but I don't have the humility to go back to school at 40.
When we carry around resentments and blame, we never hurt anyone but ourselves. If we take responsibility, we open the door to cleaning up both small irritations and enormous problems.

more . . . at the link

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pattycake Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:30 PM
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11. It takes real guts to honestly change and if
we know anything about GasWad (GW) its that he doesn't have any guts. Good get Hissy!
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:45 PM
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12. I've been saying this for a long time
It's like we're married to a drunk. I know, I've been there. You wake up in the morning thinking, what has he done now?
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ArmchairMeme Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:14 PM
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13. Yes he behaves like an alcoholic
Yes, we as a country are reacting as we would to an alcoholic. We can't believe that he keeps doing more wild things at every turn. Why did he need to be prompted through an earpiece during the presidental debates I suspect because he wanted to make each answer into a joke. Afterall life is not serious to an alcoholic.

There was just an article that said that children who are risk takers are more prone to become alcoholics.

Why did he need to be bailed out every business venture of his adult life? The rest of the world have to make it on their own.

Everytime I see him giving a speech or a news conference he waits for the audience laughter after each statement and gives a little smirk because he knows that he is putting something over on his audience. Sort of like an alcoholic who knows he has bottles hidden all around the place and he is telling you that he doesn't drink. He means at that instance not tonight or tomorrow.

It's no wonder that people of the U.S. and the world are fearful of what he will do next.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:35 PM
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14. self-delete
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 04:37 PM by emcguffie
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:17 PM
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15. Todays the 28th of June here where I live, today I've been sober 4 years..
Getting with the program is the best move this alcoholic ever made.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 11:41 PM
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16. he is an alcoholic. i can say this cause his behavior is iota to my
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 11:42 PM by seabeyond
brothers. i mean, the lyin, lyin about things they don't even have to lie about, mean, the blamin, the having to nickname and little jabs at people to feel good about self. everything about bush, is my brother.... and alcoholic
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