1/2 who want Iraq withdrawal want IMMEDIATE WITHDRAWAL

[welshTerrier2]

This view is represented by exactly ZERO Democrats in the US Senate ...

and the Gallup poll was based on "all Americans"; not just Democrats ...

it's time to stop referring to those of us who want IMMEDIATE WITHDRAWAL as "far left" or extremists or purists or any of the other nonsense ... there are as many pro-withdrawal people who want immediate withdrawal as there are of those who want a longer, gradual withdrawal ... it's likely that, within the Democratic party, IMMEDIATE WITHDRAWAL is the majority view ... it's time for the party to start representing this important constituency ... plans calling for another year of occupation or worse yet, no timeline at all fail to represent a major segment of the "big tent" ... it's time for the Democratic Party to revisit its position on Iraq ....

source: http://poll.gallup.com/content/?ci=23599

[MadMaddie]

1. This is why we the Democratic citizens need to make

an example of Joe Lieberwhore.....we need to convey the message that we put them there to represent the citizens not their own private agendas....if they won't listen...then we will remove them from office through the Democratic process.....

[whistle]

2. If the U.S withdraws from Iraq beginning next month and draws down

...all of the troops within say nine months, isn't the U.S. tax payer still committed to financially supporting and rebuilding Iraq to the tune of $1.5 to $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years?

[welshTerrier2]

3. the pretense of reconstruction

the war, the occupation and any future "reconstruction" under any neo-con regime will have nothing to do with WMD, democracy, stability or reconstruction ...

the game has always been to talk about an agenda that sounds good but is nothing more than a front and an excuse to occupy Iraq for the sole benefit of developing Iraq's oil fields and extracted the profits for Big Oil ...

twas thus and thus shall it always be ...

i, too, have seen estimates of total costs to the US running in excess of $2 trillion ... i doubt these funds will ever truly be spent on the Iraqis ... it will go to pipelines and oil fields and embassies and expenses to keep US troops there to guard the private oil development ... the Iraqis, who still have severe shortages of water and electric power, will see little more than they've already seen ...

[BillZBubb]

4. It seems like the Dem strategy is to neutralize the war issue.

By tacitly acquiescing to the Repug position, they believe they can't be attacked for not "supporting" the troops and being soft on "terrorists". What they never seem to realize is that the Repugs will attack them on this no matter what. They might as well stand on principle, the voters might be impressed.

Meanwhile a lot of us in the party's base are getting more and more annoyed and disheartened. Why can't we run strong with a position that a majority of the country backs?

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. That's not quite fair. Majority Congressional Dems want slow withdrawal

The Republican position is Stay the Course. The Republicans are raising Hell that all the Congressional Democrats are "Cut and Runners", even those who backed the Levin/Reid bill in the Senate. Only a few Democrats, like Lieberman, stand with the Republicans for Stay the Course no matter what, the rest are either for withdraw quickly or at least start the pull out now and wind it down.