Who’s the Best Tyrant. King Gorge the Bush or King Gorge the III

[Larry Ogg]

King Gorge the Bush & King Gorge the III
Verses The Decoration of Independence.

I think it would be safe to say that proceeding the drafting of the Decoration of Independence a handful of liberals were meeting secretly underground at undisclosed locations to discuss what could be done about the bullies of there day, King Gorge the III and his corrupt crony goons… (What a coincidence)… Ironically 230 years later liberal groups such as DU find them selves in similar positions, although some what symbolic. Remember our founding fathers were wanted men, dead or alive and most likely considered as being terrorist. Albeit the word in there day was not terrorist, it was Revolutionist… And not particularly a word that right wing conservatives of today would like to use on those who tend to lean towards and defend the founding principals of this country, i.e. liberals and Democrats... In addition the word Revolutionist sounds to --- well --- Patriotic… So they want to call us what we are and what they hate but they need to spin it into some thing bad… So when we speak out in the defense of liberty, we are being simply unpatriotic and liberal. And it seems as though they go out of there way to tie those two words together. Fortunately we have something on our side besides malicious rhetoric, and that is truth. The one thing Republicans hate more than Democrats. So we need to just stick with the truth and get it out as much as possible.

As Bush’s support and that of his friends plunge in popularity because of an incriminating list; of lies, incompetence, corruption against the citizens of the U.S., and crimes against humanity, it seems as though his actions reflect the actions of another infamous Gorge, and that would be King Gorge the III. Could it be that our Gorge Bush thinks like a king and could possibly be guilty of some of the same or similar grievances listed in the Decoration of Independence by our founding fathers? Well lets take a look and see if there are any similarities. King Gorge the III had 28 grievances against him. I have listed the ones I think fit best or in part to Gorge Bush.

Note: Items in < >such as <Great Britain> are in the Constitution but don’t Refer to Bush. Items in ( ) such as (The United States) are not in the Constitution but added by me and refer to Bush.

The history of the present King of <Great Britain> (The United States) is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

1. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

2. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws <for establishing Judiciary Powers.>
3. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, <and the amount and payment of their salaries.>
4. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people <and eat out their substance.>
5. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power. (Could lying to Congress to get us into an illegal war be construed as, negating Congressional oversight of the Military?)
6. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: (OK John Hancock, we have two words for this. “Patriot Act”)
7. For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: (I believe that giving out illegal no accountability no bid government contracts to your friends, and draining the national treasury, strapping us with a debt that will probably exceed Ten Trillion Dollars that will have to be paid back, is taxation without our Consent.)
8. For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury: (---Hello---)
9. For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences. (The use of Extraordinary Rendition. No trials though, just torture).
10. For taking away <our Charters>, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: (Possibility)
11. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring <us out of his Protection and waging> War against us. (I am surprised that taping of phones and reading our E-mails isn’t in here. Because according to Donald Rumsfeld, governments has been taping our phone lines since this country was founded.)
12. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. (Who really attacked us on 911?)
13. He is at this time transporting large Armies <of foreign Mercenaries> to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. (I especially like this one)
14. He has constrained our fellow Citizens <taken Captive on the high Seas> to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. (And then blamed it on Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. What a guy!)

OK let’s see now, King Gorge the III had 28 grievances listed that caused a revolution… But our King Gorge the Bush has only 14 that I could relate fairly to the Decoration of Independence… But then this is a democracy and every one is allowed and opinion, plus we have checks and balances to keep our Gorge in balance and there are a lot of people trying to convince him that he is only the “Decider” and not a real King. Also some of you might think there are grievances that could be added too or taken away and so as it should be, because we are Democratic Americans that embrace the ideals our liberal forefathers set forth in the first secret meetings of the Democratic Underground over 230 years ago. So fire away, and let’s see if we can create a bigger list of atrocities for Gorge W Bush, let’s give him the recognition he really deserves, and surpass that of King Gorge the III, for with out his tyrannical and despotic values our Nation would never have been born.

[Poppyseedman]

1. I see your point

but historically speaking, our King George, the bush is a puke compared to King George III

Our King George will be on his way out the door Jan 2009 under the "Rule of Law" rather than the "Rule of Kings" the colonist had to deal with.

[Larry Ogg]

3. Just thought it would be good to show him for what he is.

[IndianaGreen]

2. First, we don't have checks and balances!

Bush has put himself about Congress, the courts, and the Constitution, and he has infringed of our civil liberties under the guise of "protecting" us from terrorism.

Second, King George III was not an absolute monarch, like Bush is trying to become. All of the grievances our Founding Fathers had were caused by acts of Parliament.

Third, and most important, King George III did not invade another country and commit a litany of war crimes, like Bush has done.

In many respects, Bush has operated on the same moral plane has Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, and like the leaders of those warmongering countries, Bush should face a Nuremberg-style tribunal to receive the justice that he has so richly deserved.

[Larry Ogg]

4. OK thats good, the list is growing.

thanks for the input. :toast:

[undergroundpanther]

5. To stop a king

You had to kill him, than kill his family(inheritors namely SONS,brothers uncles and the wives concubines ( especially considering they might be pregnant with the kings heirs) Than You had to kill his inner circle,the whole royal household, and dispatch his loyal fans.,It took alot of spilled blood to topple a kingdom and unseat it's despot on the top.Family lines,The Names of dynasties..Are the record of lineage to determine the so called "legitimacy" of a king a "divine right" to control an area and exploit all it's inhabitants.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20909-2180698,00.html

http://bad.eserver.org/issues/2002/62/mosher.html

Kingship like authority is a big group fantasy in humans. All authority in reality has no power beyond an individual and an individuals capacity for self defense..There are no kings unless you play that game and pretend a ruler has'power' and you believe, and others pretend along with you.Then you get states,social classes,status and privilege,is doled out,as well as scapegoating,the kingdom game brings inequality,alot of poverty and a few wealthy oppressors, owners and slaves.. and to defend the hoarded booty and keep the serfs toiling you get secrets,scandal,corruption,abuse psy ops,religion,militarism,taxes,landlords, corporations And..the rival kingdoms.

[Larry Ogg]

7. I think we went the same school.

And I could not agree with you more. Thanks for showing it like it is.

[Larry Ogg]

6. We do have checks and balances… supposedly...

And I would love to know why they are not used by either side Dems & Rep. I can assume many of my own or agree with others. But only official explanations count, and screw the truth.