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JABBS, in response to a conservative defense of Tony Snow using the word acquaintance:
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MrToffeeLovesYa said...
Trinity, once again you've nailed it.
Liberals find a letter with Bush making chit-chat and calling Lay his friend. A few photos pop up with the Bushes and the Lays together in social settings. C'mon, liberals, that's what politicians do! Pow! Clinton probably called Lay his friend, too, right? I bet there's a letter somewhere, not that I expect you liberals to find it. And if he didn't call Lay his friend, you know he thought it, right Trinity?
And Trinity, you're dead-on to ignore the point JABBS made about Enron being Bush's top donor from 1993 to 2001, and giving Bush the corporate jet during the 2000 presidential campaign. C'mon, liberals, wake up and smell reality.
Lay was close with Bush's dad. That's how Bush and Lay even knew each other. The younger Bush probably came up with "Kenny Boy" just to make his dad happy. That's probably why he called Lay his friend in the letter, and so on. He didn't mean it, right amigo? He was just being a politician -- or a politician's son. Or both.
Like Trinity says, Clinton gave Lay just as much access. But Lay didn't get the policy changes he wanted, I guess, so he started backing Dubya. Nothing wrong with that, liberals. It's called habeus corpus. Clinton didn't scratch Lay's back -- too busy with Monica, right Trinity? -- and Lay saw the future, and helped put his energy buddies, Bush and Cheney, into the White House.
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Then, the same guy offers a "faux" defense to what Enron did to California:
MrToffeeLovesYa said...
"We have the fact that Bush refused to allow the federal government to step into the California electric crisis, so Enron traders could unabated raise costs in the state for innocent electric consumers and force the state's utilities into bankruptcy,"
C'mon liberals, do you really think the Bush Administration is going to get in the way of our great capitalist system?
You're focusing on one time when maybe the federal government should have done something. What about the thousands of times when capitalism works well? Think of all the times that you bought groceries, a car, a house, without forcing a state agency into bankruptcy. Do you really expect the Bush Administration to be on top of things so closely as to know which one time to do something? Be realistic, liberal America.
And let's face facts, California is one of the most liberal states in America. Not a lot of incentive for the Bush Administration to help "innocent electric consumers." Stop your whining, liberals. People in California are rich, at least the legal ones. Bunch of liberal Hollywood types, and all those liberals in San Francisco. A lot of them deserve to be humbled by living in darkness.
"the fact that Lay and other Enron executives played a big role in drafting U.S. Energy policy UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION and the fact that Cheney refuses to release the records of those meetings to the public after the Enron scandal surfaced"
You clearly don't understand how government works. It's e pluribus unum, buddy boy. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. You think that Lay and the rest of Enron were Bush's top donor from 1993 to 2001 because they liked Bush? Of course not. They wanted access, and that's what they got.
And do you really think that they'd want access to do the "right thing"? C'mon, liberals. Wake up and smell reality. Lay wanted access to do the right thing for Lay. Bush and Cheney knew that, too. No one's in the dark here, except for you liberals.
Maybe if some earthy-crunchy types wanted to, they could pledge $1 billion or so to Hillary or someone, get her in the White House, and then have access oon clandestine meetings on environmental and energy policies. Then they can do the "right thing." Until then, though, stop whining. Instead, start going door-to-door in Vermont or Massachusetts. Pow!