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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:37 AM
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NYC Brownstone Bomber supports Bush and rages against Hillary
The enraged doctor who allegedly bombed his landmarked brownstone between Madison Ave and Central Park, wrote a "rambling 14-page e-mail" in which he found many things to hate about Democratic leaders and Liberal voters.

The Daily News printed a segment of the email in which Dr. Bartas says:

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"The anti-American politicians and others who are against the war in Iraq (the same people who (were) against the Vietnam war)...I hope they will succeed so that the terrorists will move to the states.

So people here will have a taste of suffering as when the East Europeans were given to the Russians by a very sick President Roosevelt at Yalta in 1945.

...I hope most of the country realizes whom Ms. H. Rodham Clinton is and will make sure she will never be a president unless they want to suffer the consequences. I wish President Bush had been at Yalta."
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He goes on later in the email to say:

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I hope there will be a memorial built on the place in the memory of Eastern Europeans who were betrayed at Yalta by Pres. Roosevelt. There should be a place for the Iraqi.

P.S. Facism = Communism = Politically Correct"
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I have the print copy of the paper but they are online at www.nydailynews.com
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:39 AM
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1. Neocon chickens coming home to roost...we are reaping what BushCo**
have sewn...
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:42 AM
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2. If he lives, he'll be facing charges...
...but perhaps he'll be using the insanity defense.

The opening paragraph of the NY Daily News story referred to him as "the demented doctor" and went on to describe him as a very disturbed man:

The 66-year-old doctor .e-mailed the poison-pen missive to at least a dozen other people and organizations - including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Fox News Channel - shortly .before the failed suicide blast that left him critically burned and buried. The city was rocked about 8:40 a.m. when, officials believe, Bartha opened up the gas lines in his 19th century building before sparking the blast that reduced the home to rubble and sent flames and smoke high into the clear morning sky.

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After brave firefighters plucked him from his self-made tomb of bricks and twisted metal, a portrait emerged of a disturbed, paranoid man intent on destroying the home where he had raised two daughters and now lived alone with his rage.

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Prosecutors could slap Bartha with arson charges for intentionally causing yesterday's explosion. Because no one else was in the doomed building, he would likely be charged with third-degree arson or lower, punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

He could also face first-degree reckless endangerment charges if prosecutors believe blowing up the E. 62nd St. structure caused a "grave risk of death" to passersby or neighbors. The charge carries a sentence of up to seven years in prison.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/434174p-365776c.html
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:24 AM
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6. OK, we have a doc on the upper east side
in what must've been a posh and lucrative practice but nearing retirement going around the bend and looking for somebody to blame for the fact that he's getting old and doing it alone.

The right wing haters handed him a few targets. Is it any wonder he took what was handed to him?

Yeah, he'll do an insanity defense, but he's not insane. He's just an ordinary schmuck who got permission to hate. The only difference between him and the rest of the sheep is that he took the means and acted it out.

Expect more before the sane people retake this country from haters and bullies.
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:44 AM
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8. Conservatives can go crazy
We have Andrea yates on trial again. Someone who killed her children because she believed they would go to heaven. She would be touted a conservative in everyday life. The Ok city bombings executed by Timothy McVeigh in the defense of white supremacists. He was a conservative. Osama Bin laden & Co all believe in going back to the basic Islamic beliefs. They are conservatives. The doctor who blew probably blew up the building. Loves Bush he is a conservative. Conservatives the world over have Strong beliefs in their agenda. We need more progressive thinking people who will not go crazy but examine everything as it comes.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:44 AM
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3. And that's probably the mindset of many idiot Bushbots....
"Betrayed by President Roosevelt"? How does your mind get that warped? :scared:
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:59 AM
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4. According to the paper, Dr. Bartas immigrated to the U.S. from
Romania. Some kind of terrorist action took away his family's home in Romania and the family fled to Italhy. The doctor evidently attended medical school in Rome. He mentions in the email how hard his mother worked all of her life to regain the property seized in the Romanian version of imminent domain. She failed.

Mention was made in both last night's News and todays News and also on tv, that the Doctor was one-quarter Jewish and his wife Cordula is fully Jewish and comes from a family that had to flee her birth-place in Nazi-occupied Holland. Much is made of this racial heritage because the doctor was accused of tormenting the wife by strewing swastikas in their home.

She and the daughters moved out in 01 and this fight over the brownstone has been going on ever since.
The doctor received an eviction notice on Friday and was informed that the building would be auctioned off in October.

He and his parents paid $400,000 for the building in 1980 and as of yesterday it was worth 10 million.
Although the building is gone, land on Manhattan Island is damn near priceless.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:43 AM
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7. Wonder if his family had their home taken because they were Nazi
sympathizers. Sounds like one screwed-up dude.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:03 AM
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5. Sad to say, these people will not go quietly
They lied, cheated and stole their way to power, and they're not going to let go so easily. Folks like Dr. Bartas are just the first outliers of the phenomenon, but make no mistake: We have a grim job ahead of us, and it may well be that we'll have to snap their grasping fingers one by one off the levers of power they've stained with the blood of innocents. It won't be pretty, it won't be fun. They will try to remove all satisfaction we might feel in deposing them. But we will reclaim our country.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:32 PM
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9. This man's behavior shows a certain selfishness on his part...
I can really understand how he could have developed a strong emotional connection to a historic building such as the one he owned. He told his lawyer that he had once stood on the corner of E. 59th and Fifth Avenue looking north toward E. 62nd Street and declared to himself that he would one day live there. It says a lot that he was able to make that dream come true in America. Nobody wants to give up a dream. It just seems to me that he could have borrowed on the building in order to pay off his wife her share of the family resources.

People from different countries, because of the unique experiences they have undergone, have developed different sorts of moral standards, rightly or wrongly, than we may be used to. This doctor does not believe in having to share the family resources 50-50 with a spouse of 29 years. He thinks that western law is wrong in upholding his wife's demands for her fair share. He feels that there is no rational explanation for the present legal method of dividing assets. He claims that she did not work for 15 years and then when she did begin working, she did not deposit any money into the joint account. He claimed that all of her money went into a private account in Holland. She was or is employed by the Dutch Consulate in NY.

A first judge decided that the wife should get 1.4 mil. She appealed and the second judge awarded her 4 million. This enraged the doctor. He said that for the second time he and his parents lost as when the "communists expropriated" their house in 1947, even though his mother is dead. The doctor said, "In Harlem they would say my family's hard work was 'dissed.'"

The strange thing is that he was able to continue working as a capable emergency room doctor during all of this upheaval in his personal and emotional life. He was well spoken of by fellow doctors at Mt. Vernon Hospital and also by the doctor who ented an office in the now-destgroyed building. No reason was given as to why that doctor missed the blast.

We have to get used to the fact that we live among people who do not see the same America that those of us who were born and educated here see and vice versa. And that is not meant in any elitist, nativist, superior way. I mean, that the America that we see Bush and the neocons creating is the result of an America that is seen by the eyes of people who have a different perspective and a different future than many of us are used to. The neocons definitely do not see the same America that we claim the Founding Fathers saw. They do not see the same America that we have grown used to. In fact, they are busy every day, redefining and rewriting and revising our history and the meanings of some of our most important unifying freedom-assuring documents. They are indeed creating a new future for all "Americans."

Dr. Barta is a symbol of a man who apparently could not get over the pain he suffered in Romania despite his dream-fulfillment in America. He could not come to grips with what equality and fairness and being "an American" mean.

He claimed that his brother's wife was able to get a divorce with the support of the New York State Legal Aid Society and a woman's shelter. He claims that his brother died as a result of the "lies" told by these agencies on behalf of his sister-in-law and that she now lives in and is "enjoying" his brother's house. Dr. Barta doesn't understand why his brother worked all of his life if this was to be the final result.

One almost gets the feeling that abuse was not unknown among the men of this family since Dr. Barta's wife said that he was unsympathetic toward here during a bout with breast cancer.

According to the email, the doctor feels that "The legal system is corrupt, killed my brother and now, I. I am not going to let anybody evict me as the communists did it in Romania in 1947...I am not good material to be a slave I rebel easily."

Another part of the email rant is directed toward Cindy Sheehan who he claims is "desecrating her son's memory." He calls her "an opportunits trying to be famous on the back of her son."

I don't think we will ever again see the America that we thought we lived in.



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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:59 PM
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12. I'm not ready to give in
I'm perfectly willing to keep fighting to keep the America that our Founding Fathers saw, not some half-baked conservative fascist dream.

Everything Bush has done can be undone and I won't stop until its restored.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:35 PM
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10. Listening to Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Faux will do that to a person
Drive them insane, that is.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:55 PM
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11. Send these creeps to Iraq
They're so full of hatred and violence and worship for all things GOP and right wing - let them go fight the war they love so much.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:01 PM
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13. This Dr. had tried suicide before, beknown to his staff/colleagues,
some of whom actually saved his life, yet they covered for him and he continued seeing patients. If these are the facts, this is disgusting.
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