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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:49 PM
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Ewwww! Senator George Allen spits tobacco into a plastic foam cup.
Roll Call, "Heard on the Hill": Snuff Said
July 11, 2006
By Mary Ann Akers, Roll Call Staff

Good for Sen. George Allen (R-Va.)! The GOP presidential aspirant from Virginia might be trying to kick his nasty little habit that involves spitting toxic, black gunk into a plastic foam cup. And the best part is: He doesn't even have to give up smokeless tobacco!

In addition to - not in lieu of - his usual dipping product, Copenhagen, Allen has been trying a form of tobacco called Snus. It's sort of like snuff; you put a pinch between the lip and gum. But unlike most dipping products, it comes in a little pouch and apparently there is no urge or need to spit - which certainly would be more Senatorial, and a heck of a lot more presidential.

Allen's spokesman, David Snepp, once told HOH that the Senator typically goes through a can of Copenhagen "every three or four days." But lately, according to Snepp, Allen has been enjoying Camel Snus and Stonewall Hard Snuff, both of which get Allen around that unbecoming spitting problem.

Allen has been spotted in hearings and even on the Senate floor dipping and, yes, dear heavens, spitting into a plastic foam cup. (Most of the brass spittoons underneath the desks in the Senate chamber have long been removed, so what else was he supposed to do?)

But perhaps with the 2008 presidential race creeping ever closer, Allen may be exploring the idea of abandoning the practice of spitting, at least in public. Good thing R.J. Reynolds is test-marketing its Camel Snus this summer, selling it in only two cities....

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/52_3/hoh/14188-1.html
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:51 PM
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1. What a guy. He's trying to stop but he's just such a regular guy
The only thing not phony about Allen is his bigotry.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:53 PM
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2. When I was growing up, not that I've ever really grown up, everyone
(not me, I didn't dip) used to spit it into a Barq's rootbeer bottle. Seemed to the receptacle of choice. One never, ever, under any circumstances, took a sip from a half-full Barq's rootbeer bottle without knowing it's clear chain of possession.

I used to love Scoal. Never tried it, but one of my favorite girlfriends had just broken up with her boyfriend for kissing her with a dip in his mouth. Thank, you Scoal and Coppenhagen.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:56 PM
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4. Thanks for this info! nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:12 PM
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13. Useful, isn't it?
:rofl: I'm in such a banal mood today! Don't tell my boss.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:00 PM
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6. I used to chew Red Man, and really enjoyed it for a long time
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 02:01 PM by augie38
until, one time, the juice backed up in my throat. After that i swore off tobacco (smoking or chewing) for ever.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:55 PM
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3. Collects Confederate Flags & Dips Copenhagen... say hello to our next Pres
Allen is the single biggest threat in 2008. He's like Bush, but with more brains and brawn. He's sure to carry the South given his "good ole boy" persona and former athletic bona fides.

J
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:57 PM
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5. More brains?
Have you ever heard him in debate, or in an interview...

The guy is dumb as rocks....makes him even more like W.

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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:02 PM
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7. He can actually speak in complete sentences and has a bigger vocab.
That makes his brain bigger than King Chimp's...but, as you note, this "bigger" is relative to that of a gnat with a hemispherectomy.

J
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:11 PM
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11. Not if Jim Webb can beat him....
then he'll be tossed off to K Street whoredom.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:20 PM
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16. One can only hope. I'd love to see him out the way for 2008.
Allen scares the shit out me based upon the general intelligence and prior choices of the US electorate.

J
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niccolos_smile Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:06 PM
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8. This happens all the time in the TX Legislature...
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 02:07 PM by niccolos_smile
You'll see Senators and Reps spitting into cups or trash cans. At one point, a state Senator named David Sibley had a spitoon put next to his desk (for effect, although he did dip).

Nasty habit. I once saw a girl at a county fair kiss her boyfriend and take his dip out with her tounge.

:puke:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:07 PM
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9. Ewwwwww!
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niccolos_smile Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:17 PM
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15. Yep. I started gagging.

I have a hair trigger gag reflex and that set it off.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:10 PM
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23. Classy!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:09 PM
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10. He'd better be careful, or....
he will end up with a really nasty case of tongue cancer. I will not comment further in deference to those who suffer or have suffered from cancer, but I'm thinking some really evil thoughts here.

:evilgrin:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:11 PM
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12. A plastic foam cup?
Knowing that, one hardly needs to look up his record on environmental issues...

Please no, please no Pres. Allen. :scared: With both Canada and (apparently) Mexico also falling to the right, I'm running out of options...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:14 PM
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14. Maybe he should use
an empty bottled water bottle! :rofl:

Face it, there is zero chance of a good Republican being elected. The only way to save America is to get one of our own in the White House.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:35 PM
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18. As one who does chew tobacco...
The type of cup that he spit into doesn't really tell me very much about the man or his environmental record (though the "R" next to his name speaks volumes). When I chew, I spit into whatever receptacle is available (though only an opaque one). Last week, I used a foam cup left over from Dunkin' Donuts. I had already finished the coffee, the cup was going to be thrown out anyway, and I didn't see any reason to use a second cup for this purpose.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:49 PM
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19. There you go! "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" in that order.
Actually I was just being sardonic about the plastic foam cup; it kind of completed the whole image for me.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:30 PM
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17. George W Bush did the same thing...
George Walker Bush, Driving on the Right

By Lois Romano
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 24, 1998; Page B01

Today, the younger Bush, who for years served as his father's political eyes and ears, refuses to engage in any substantive comparisons between himself and his father, saying only, "He is a great man and I love him dearly."

Stylistically, he will agree, they are quite different. "He was raised in Greenwich, Connecticut, and I was raised in Midland, Texas. And there's a world of difference between the two cities," says Bush, who startled the Beltway "suits" when he showed up to help on his father's campaign chewing tobacco.

"I am a product of the West and I think that way," he says. "I'm not sure how that translates into behavior or leadership qualities."

That analysis he leaves for those who would like to see him president and who have no such hesitancy about distancing the son from the father. His allies will tell you the younger man is more decisive, that he is not relying on his father's old, tired advisers, and most important, that he is ideologically much more conservative than his father. Translation: Conservative enough to satisfy the religious right in a presidential race.


--more--
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/whbush092498.htm

More bullshit in the article. This goes way back to when the Corporate Media began to groom him for the White House.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:50 PM
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20. Oh, Lord, this story has made me sick! I haven't had such a feeling
since Newt Gingrich's mother spit in her kitchen sink in a down home television interview when Newt was running for the Prez.

That really made me want to vomit to think she was spitting in the same sink she used to cook and wash dishes.

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:58 PM
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21. When you're a draft-dodging lightweight running vs. a war hero,
you have to try to get some manliness from somewhere.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:00 PM
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22. Nice example for young athletes...
Hard enough to keep them away from this poison...

What a bloody idiot!
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:19 PM
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24. That's not all he's done to gross me out.....
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:29 PM
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26. Disgusting -- and frightening! nt
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 07:51 AM
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28. Everyone should know.....
send it to everyone that you know........
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:25 PM
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25. What's even more disgusting is he likes to posture as a Virginian!!!
Well, I don't question his Virginia residency, but when it comes to that, I guess most of the politicians on Capitol Hill actually live here anyway. It's really irksome though, to see his staged antics realizing that many people see them thinking they're typical of our state.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:37 PM
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27. Maybe he thinks he represents Texas instead
It sure wasn't like that in VA when I was there.

Born in Norfolk, doncha know. Spent my first 10 years there.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 08:18 AM
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29. When I went to college I made it clear I didn't want a smoking roommate
but I didn't have a clue about chewing. About half of my suite mates chewed and the smell alone was nausiating.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:29 AM
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30. Obvioulsy, you have never been to Texas...
That's pretty common around here, along with the ring on the back pocket.

Yes, it's gross, yes, it causes lip, mouth and cheek and throat cancer, but it's a fairly common site around these parts.
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