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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:08 PM
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Pretend world: Bush is really like Clinton and the outrage is partisanship
The SCOTUS struck, Bush has been rebuked, so the a-holes who have been touting him are now flouting him...as liberal?

The Decline and Fall of the Republican Party

Tucker Carlson

What went wrong with the Republican Party?

That is a really tragic question. I do not actually consider myself much of a Republican, so I am not necessarily disappointed. But I am still a little bit shocked by what has happened in the last 11 years to this party that had such promise. How did this administration—which is, in the shorthand of the media, a sort of right-wing, small-government, tearit-all-down, cryptolibertarian administration—get to be, in fact, an administration that is in almost every single way as liberal as Bill Clinton’s administration? How did that happen?

The first and most obvious explanation of the problems in the Republican Party is that the president, despite everything you hear, is not actually all that conservative. He is definitely not animated by any libertarian instincts. Even during his 2000 campaign, he never claimed to be particularly conservative or libertarian. Bush’s problem, fundamentally, is that he is not an ideologue in any way. Everyone attacks ideologues as rigid, but in fact they govern far more effectively because they actually believe something. Bush is not a deep thinker. He is not an ideological thinker, and he does not think systematically about politics and the world.

Bush’s political philosophy, such as it is, was all there in the 2000 campaign. If you listened to Bush speak, he repeated one line in every speech: “Prosperity must have a purpose. Prosperity uncoupled from purpose is simple materialism.” That is a verbatim quote. Bush said that in every single stump speech, even to business groups. But most people at those speeches were not paying close attention. I do not think anybody stopped to ask what he meant.

On a moral level, he’s right. But I remember thinking that when it comes to government, simple materialism is more than enough. I am uncomfortable with governments that aspire to a lot more than simple materialism. That implies that the government has plans for me. It wants to make me a better person. I do not want to be made a better person. If that were the goal, the government would have license to do a lot of things I do not think it ought to be doing. And that would give you license to do a lot of things I do not think you ought to be doing. Bush’s claims of small government conservatism were a crock.

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http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv4n2.pdf



Put this bizarre take on Bush together with these self-appointed moderators in the "right-left clash" and one has to ask: When are the RW a-holes and their enablers going to acknowledge that their narrow-mindedness, greed and sheer "a-holism" is responsible for reality?



Political strategists to launch Web site

By Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press Writer | July 11, 2006

WASHINGTON --A bipartisan group of prominent political strategists on Tuesday announced an Internet information venture designed to interact with America's opinion leaders and serve as an antidote to the right-left clash that typifies political discourse on the Web.

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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/07/11/political_strategists_to_launch_web_site

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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:13 PM
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1. Unfortunately, true wingnuts believe that...
...every problem in the world is caused not by being too right wing but by not being right wing enough. If most of today's hardcore RW had been alive during the Nazi era, they'd have blamed Hitler for not getting rid of the Jews, gays and dissidents quicker, and for not doing a better job of covering his tracks.

We should never make the mistake of thinking that RWers will ever see things our way. The failures of their politicians are more likely to drive thm further and further away, in their neverending search for somebody 'strong' enough.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:24 PM
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6. You would think they would look at Nazi Germany, Mussolini's
Italy and so on to see that collapse is inevitable when big corporations are entangled in the government....stupid ass people...
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:28 PM
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7. True, but you only have to look at...
...the resurgence of Mussolini's popularity among certain segments of the mainstream Italian population and the way some people wistfully talk about Stalin in Russia to know that people never learn. Our pack-hunter nature makes us seek out 'strong' leaders. Humans may be intelligent individually, but in groups, we're dumb as dirt and twice as viscious.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:15 PM
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2. Whatever, George is the leader of the GOP, they fumbled
the country is trashed, falling apart, suffering from corrupt, phony elections and bad contracts
and a war based on lies. He's their idiot and he's driving them and us off the cliff.
Look out below!
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:22 PM
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3. "Bush is not an ideologue in any way."
WTF is Carlson smoking this time? Little Lord Pissypants is the dictionary definition of an ideologue!


:smoke:


I'm stressed thanks to living in BUSHWORLD-gimme some of that shit!
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:23 PM
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4. A rightwing idiot caller on C-Span this morning...
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 08:27 PM by Cassandra
was complaining about the "liberal" Congress. Too weird. This is related to the meme that conservatism never fails. When it appears to, it wasn't conservatism.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:24 PM
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5. Government should encourage people to become better people
it should not force the issue.

On the other hand, what they're doing is the exact opposite of encouraging people to become better people. They're encouraging people to torture prisoners, rape and kill innocents, and be the kind of raging assholes their very own Christ seemed to loathe.

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