Big Eddie still taking the heat for Lieberman stance

[Trouser Trout]

Continues to mention this today on his show.Heads up: both Ned AND Joe scheduled to be on tomorrow.Even if you don't like Ed Schultz tomorrow's show should be good, because at least he gives equal time to dissenting positions.

[still_one]

1. I think many give Big Ed a bad rap which he doesn't deserve

we are not going to agree with each other on every issue, but the ones that count Ed is on board

[Robbien]

2. Ed is not on board on the big ones

He favors big business and our current foreign policy. And in the Lieberman/Lamont race he feels Lamont should drop out because no Democrat should challenge Lieberman's right to his seat.

[still_one]

4. I never heard him say Lamont should drop out, in fact just the opposite

He said the people of Conecticut are the ones who need to decide this issue. He NEVER said LAMONT should drop out
though he does not see a problem with liberman running as an independent which I disagree with big time

He is against the Iraq war, which many Democrats in Congress will not even take a stand
He is for stem cell research
He was for the Feingold ammendment censoring bush
He is for bilateral talks with North Korea
He is for a woman's right to choose
He is against privitizing social security or medicare


I could go on, but he DOES NOT FAVOR OUR CURRENT FOREIGN POLICY, just the opposite

I will concede that economically he is a Bill Clinton Democrat, and I do have issues with that

I consider Iraq a issue

[Clarkie1]

12. Obviously you don't listen Big Ed much.

He absolutely does not favor "big business and our current foreign policy."

Why do people think they can get away with posting assertions on DU that have no basis in reality or fact?

[benburch]

3. As he should.

Big Ed is in my estimation almost exactly as much a Democrat as Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman.

[still_one]

5. really? Ed is against the Iraq war, and thinks we should get out

zell miller and liberman DO NOT

He is for a woman's right to choose, zell miller IS NOT
He is for stem cell research, zell miller is NOT
He was against the IWR, miller and lieberman were for it

If you said he was more like Bill Clinton, I would tend to agree with you, but you are mischaracterizing him by relating him to zell miller and lieberman

[LincolnMcGrath]

6. I agree ben. Who cares what dlcentrist radio has to say anyway!

[Dr Fate]

7. What is "centrist" about supporting far-right issues?

???

[LincolnMcGrath]

9. Nothing. Therein lies the problem with dlcentrists

:hi:

[wyldwolf]

10. well, among talk radio listeners, plenty care

More so than the most on the Air America line-up.

Schultz is No. 13 overall in Talkers magazine's Heavy 100 list of national and local talk-show hosts based on ratings as well as talent, buzz and influence. Howard Stern was No. 1 and Rush Limbaugh No. 2. Randy Rhodes is No. 10. Al Franken came in at No. 18. Thom Hartman, No. 62. Rachel Maddow, No. 71

http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44

[benburch]

13. That SURELY does not mean I ought to like him?

Or fail to say what I think of him?

He is only in this for the MONEY.

[wyldwolf]

16. that is certainly up to you

... but the fact remains, he gets ratings, so clearly many care what he has to say.

[benburch]

17. Rush Limbaugh gets ratings...

...and I almost respect him more than Big Eddie, because at least Rush is honest about what he is.

[wyldwolf]

18. Irrelevant

In post #6, the post that started this, it was said, "Who cares what dlcentrist radio has to say anyway!"

Obviously millions of people DO care or they wouldn't listen.

[benburch]

19. Millions of people have no other choices in their market at that hour.

So this is like saying; Millions of people eat meals made of only cold white rice made by soaking without cooking in untreated water every day, so they must love that!

[wyldwolf]

21. LOL! Name me one market Schultz is in that only has one radio station

[benburch]

24. Most have only ONE Air America station.

And that is the station that carries Ed Schultz instead of the MUCH better Randi Rhodes.

When that happens, there just is not a choice for listeners.

Chicago is such a market.

[LincolnMcGrath]

25. Chicago is such a market.

Quad City Station as well.

I'm not sure everyone involved here understands how the radio business works.

[benburch]

26. Clearly they have no clue how it works!

They should try being in this business for a couple of years and maybe they would know what a racket it is.

[LincolnMcGrath]

27. I agree

Now get back to work running The Premiere Progressive Radio Network on all of the internets.

[benburch]

28. Yes boss.

*sigh*

Bloody slavedriver.

[wyldwolf]

29. but Chicago has more than ONE station. People can choose what they listen

to.

But this has ZERO to do with how much ratings Schultz has.

[LincolnMcGrath]

14. Surely you must mean among Talkers Mag staffers right?

Since they do the rating?

[wyldwolf]

15. no... "ratings"... as in Arbitron

When the radio industry talks ratings, they mean Arbitron.

[LincolnMcGrath]

20. Really?

Not according to you.


Remember ...Schultz is No. 13 overall in Talkers magazine's Heavy 100 list...

Speaking of irrelevant, what does Big Eddie have to do with AAR?
And for the record, Jones Radio has more to do with how many listeners Mr.Ed has than the content of his show.

Maybe the next issue that the fine folks over at talkermag could debate in their ongoing series of Heritage Foundation Forums is whether or not they are being clear enough in their explanation of their own rating system, as to not have folks erroneously quoting them to back failing arguments.

Don't post numbers from talkermag's latest talkers 250 ratings, then try to say arbitron had anything to do with it.

[wyldwolf]

22. Yes really

If you'll read the piece from Talk Magazine, they base their ranking on, among other things, RATINGS - which refers to ARBITRON. Quote: Schultz is No. 13 overall in Talkers magazine's Heavy 100 list of national and local talk-show hosts based on ratings as well as talent, buzz and influence.

In radio, RATINGS refers to ARBITRON.

A number of the stations airing Schultz' program have seen dramatic Arbitron ratings increases in the few months.

http://www.nab.org/xert/CorpComm/Newsletters/RadioRave/092804rr.asp

Air America is a liberal network, period. The minute AFR puts it on they will get flack they cannot afford. Schultz is a progressive, but he also comes with bona fide Arbitron ratings that stand him apart from the Air America crowd, who are wonderful, but reach a fraction of the standard radio audience. Besides, with Schultz's ratings no one can argue he hasn't earned the right to be on AFR along with the other big boys, plus Dr. Laura.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=1426

Speaking of irrelevant, what does Big Eddie have to do with AAR?

Plenty. He airs in the place of ARR personalities in some markets on ARR affiliates. Plus, since your rather odd point was that no one cares what Schultz thinks, a distinction between him and ARR jocks was in order.

And for the record, Jones Radio has more to do with how many listeners Mr.Ed has than the content of his show.

Actually, that isn't true. Jones Radio farms out Ed's show to affiliate stations. Once on those stations, the show is at the mercy of the ratings. Good ratings, Ed stays. Bad ratings, Ed goes.

You really live in a fantasy world if you don't believe he has millions of listeners who actually choose to listen and enjoy it. This is going to make a wonderful blog entry! Another example of someone denying reality in order to cling to their hate.

[LincolnMcGrath]

23. True to form, you run from your own original words.

It's become too much like shooting fish in a barrel anymore.

Now that you (maybe) took the time to read the piece, you couldn't have missed the part that said the staffers at talkersmag consider their own ratings as much an art as science.




"Another example of someone denying reality in order to cling to their hate." Are you referring to your own hatred of any DUer to the left of Mussolini?


Blog away, MrEd loves bloggers.

[wyldwolf]

30. which original words?

The piece plainly states - twice - they use RATINGS as a criteria, and use the term NUMBERS as well, which ratings.

[LincolnMcGrath]

31. pffft

[senseandsensibility]

8. Ed has asked for listeners to submit questions for either

Joementum or Lamont. Please send your questions to www.wegoted.com. C"mon, DUers. send your direct, blsitering questions for Lieberman to Ed before tomorrow. If you don't, you KNOW he'll just throw softball after softball.

[Larkspur]

11. I sent him questions and a long email today

explaining from my CT viewpoint why we are opposing Lieberman. I hope he reads it, not necessarily on the air, but for his edification on why some of us CT Dems are supporting Ned Lamont.