Lamont supporters: would you mind a Republican sitting in the Senate seat?

[LoZoccolo]

NOTE: Lieberman is not a Republican.

[yurbud]

1. that wouldn't happen if Lieberman were as gracious a loser as he is a

Bush boot lick.

[skipos]

10. Agreed. I'll pass on voting in this poll. nt

[calico1]

42. Me too. I don't do push polls.

:mad:

[LoZoccolo]

44. Please read #24 before you make that accusation. n/t

[Cha]

45. Never happen..that

would 10 Million bush Boot licks behind, right now!

[liberalnurse]

2. This is a controlled, trick question.....

No response....................

[IChing]

57. I agree, sorta like this poll

We learned in high school

How many times has your mom caught you
masturbating in the bathroom.

zero----
once----
twice----

even if you vote zero you still are implicated with an abusive poll....LOL

[fujiyama]

114. Like that old question

When did you last beat your wife?

It's a nonsensical poll, which merits no serious response.

[the other one]

3. Republican is better than DINO.

A cynical hate-monger is better than a hypocrit. At least you know who the enemy is. No backstabbing possible, because the enemy will be in front of us, not claiming to get our back.

[MattNC]

5. no it's not

unless you don't care about trying to take back the Senate

[tkmorris]

4. Those who don't like Bush in the White House.........

Would you prefer to have bamboo slivers driven slowly into your eyeballs before being eaten by wild dogs?

[Sapere aude]

6. Lieberman the republican in the Senate seat? We already have that

How about putting a real Dem in that Senate seat?

Lieberman supporters, do you want a real Dem in that Senate seat?

1. Yes, I want Lamont

2. No, Joe is as good a republican as they come.

[Skip Intro]

7. Supporting Lamont does not = supporting a republican, quite the opposite

this is a bs poll

[LoZoccolo]

8. I didn't ask you if supporting Lamont = supporting a Republican, did I? nt

[peacebird]

16. vote for Lieberman = vote for a Republican

except Holy Joe let's the Repukes claim "bi-partisan support"

Yes - I would rather have a republican in the seat than Lieberman.

[Ken Burch]

92. That's the whole implication of the poll title

You are essentially saying that if we don't vote for Lieberman in the primary we are throwing the seat to the Republicans.

BTW, do you condemn Lieberman for announcing that he won't accept defeat in the primary and, if beaten there, will try to run as a Conservative Pro-War Anti-Democrat Independent in the fall?

[paulk]

9. a fascinating poll!

some fascinating responses, too!

[LincolnMcGrath]

27. fascinating how?

[LoZoccolo]

11. Hey fence sitters - just what are you afraid of?

I'm pretty decisive regarding the question of what I like or don't like when it comes to the Republicans, why not you?

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[yurbud]

15. Would you rather have Hitler or Stalin? No cheating! you must choose.

[LowerManhattanite]

31. You're right...

"I'm pretty decisive regarding the question of what I like or don't like when it comes to the Republicans, why not you?"

I'm pretty decisive too. I'm not a fan of the republicans and what they stand for.

Lieberman stands with them on too many major issues I find important.

Thus, I'm not a fan of Joe Lieberman either.

Pretty damned decisive, I would think.

[Zodiak]

100. Well good for you...here's a cookie

Do you have any idea how arrogant you sound?

[FighttheFuture]

112. Better for Lieberman to loose and strike fear in other DINO's

than to support that ass Lieberman because of fear of a repug getting in. DINO's do even more damage to the Democrats that Repugs. At least repugs, you know which side they chose. If a repug wins this, it will be BACAUSE OF LIBERMAN. Let the dems in that state think about it and support a real democrat next time!!!

[yurbud]

12. better question: would you rather be raped by a known sex offender

or someone you thought was a family friend?

[Totally Committed]

13. One who supports the Republican President openly,

who supports the Republican administration's illegal and immoral war, who uses Republican talking points to demean and disrtespect other Democrats, who is willing to give up his status as a Democrat in order to keep his office is already sitting in that seat as a Senator. Aside from the faulty Party designation, there's not much difference.

(And, yes, I undertand about comittees and such... DINOs on those committees will make it like having Repubs there, anyway.) Don't worry... have no fear. It will be Lamont or Lieberman who wins. A Republican has no chance. A real Republican, I mean.

TC

[saltpoint]

17. Not from Connecticut but a lifelong Democrat. Kind of a Mario Cuomo

Democrat, with some Shirley Chisholm and RFK and Howard Metzenbaum and Bella Abzug and Kerry-Edwards and the new Al Gore and Boxer and Birch Bayh with a dose of Wellstone and a pinch of Mo Udall mixed together, among other rare and delicious spices.

Joe Lieberman is done for. Win, lose or draw, he's looking like a has-been. A burn-out. A clueless dolt who thinks more of himself than his party, with his loyalties arranged accordingly. He likes being famous and he likes being a tv celeb. He's had it easy for a while in the Senate and he's from a pretty blue state and he thought he'd be vice president when Al picked him just for shaming BClinton for that blowjob, and he thought he'd win hearts and minds over his attacks on Hollywood's "morals," and he thought he'd be the likely party choice for the 04 nomination, and he thought he'd be unopposed in this year's senate race, even with his grandstanding, ego-stroking head-up-the-ass support of George W. Bush's illegal and unethical assault on a sovereign nation.

No Republican in Connecticut has a prayer for that seat. Shays is arguably the highest-profile Rethug and he's not exactly Senate material, unless his opponent is Pee Wee Herman, and then and only then would he stand a 50-50 chance at winning, and if I WERE in Connecticut, I STILL wouldn't vote for Chris Shays.

Schlesinger will not be the winner of the Connecticut Senate race. He might not even survive the primary for all I know, but in any case, either Lamont or Lieberman would kick his butt in the general.

Lieberman is on the way out, whether he knows it or not. He's a goner. Even if he wins, he loses. Say bye-bye to the nice people, Uncle Joe.

[LittleClarkie]

18. Loaded question, innit?

Why not ask Lieberman AND Lamont supports the question? What is the point of asking this of just Lamont supporters?

[Old and In the Way]

19. I'd rather have Spam than dog for sandwich meat.

That doesn't mean I like Spam much.

[LWolf]

20. This tactic is old, weak, self-defeating, and,

imo, dishonest. The true answer is surely "No," yet a vote for Lamont is not a vote for a republican.

Supporting for, and voting for, ANY Democratic candidate that I feel to be the better of two democratic choices does not put a republican in office.

Using fear of a republican win to pressure Democrats to vote for a candidate they don't really want, when their choice is right there on the ballot, is reprehensible. In my political opinion.

I can't vote for either Lamont or Lieberman, not living in their state, but...

I ENCOURAGE ALL LAMONT SUPPORTERS TO CAST A VOTE FOR HIM. DON'T BE BULLIED BY YOUR OWN PARTY MEMBERS INTO ACCEPTING A LIEBERMAN COUP. VOTE FOR YOUR CANDIDATE.

[ulysses]

107. here, here.

:applause:

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[Mass]

22. Lamont said that, if he loses, he would support Lieberman , so why don't

you ask that to Lieberman's supporters.

[LincolnMcGrath]

23. Yawn. Another 'I hate Democrats' thread?

[LoZoccolo]

24. A note to people accusing me of running a push-poll.

There are polls being taken on the Connecticut Senate race throughout election season. Whether or not I tell you that a Lamont nomination will end in a Democratic loss, my opinion is easily defeated by looking at the poll results should I be wrong. My forecast is irrelevant in the face of the statistical fact. Now that you know that I know that I cannot fool you in this regard, don't accuse me of trying to; just answer the question.

[LincolnMcGrath]

25. Do you even have the slightest clue what push-polling is?

[Solon]

26. No problem there...

If Lamont wins the Nomination, then Lieberman should NOT play the spoiler in this race, this would defeat any possibility of a Repuke win.

[AX10]

28. I don't personally care for Lieberman, but I'd take him over...

the xenophobic bigot who the GOP is running against him. If there were a three way race in which
Lieberman/Lamont/Schlesinger were almost tied, I'd vote for the candidate that would most likely best Schlesinger (Lamont or Lieberman).

[LowerManhattanite]

29. "NOTE: Lieberman is not a Republican."

Uh-oh...somebody better tell Joe. :)

[SaveElmer]

30. Yes...and it makes me all the more disappointed in Lieberman..

That he is putting the seat in jeopardy to satisfy his ego!

[MrBenchley]

32. Of course they wouldn't....

You'll notice the same people pissing and moaning about Lieberman's possible independent status have NO problem with Bernie Sanders actual independent status. But then the beauty part of the far left is its honesty (snicker).

[LowerManhattanite]

34. "But then the beauty part of the far left is its honesty (snicker)."

And the beauty of the captive DLC moderapublicans is their stiff spines
and hard fighting against destructive GOP policies.

("chortle", "snort!", Stifled guffaw which ends up a spewn mist.)

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[LincolnMcGrath]

39. Would you rather they're opinion flip flop monthly like yours?

But seriously MrB, This Sanders - Lieberman comparison of yours is silliest tangential argument from you in a long while.

Joe has announced that the will of the DEMOCRATS in CT mean nothing to him. For a DUer with thousands of cookie cutter posts calling activist progressive Democrats haters, one would think that Joe's betrayal might register with you. Guess not.

I guess it is really all about being a belligerent problem child for some.


Now say something profound like you always do. Something like snicker, guffaw, etc.

[LowerManhattanite]

41. I already took "guffaw", "snicker" and "chortle"'s been used, too...

Leaving "chuckle", "cackle", "bwa-ha-haaaa", "LOL", "ROTFLMAO" and of course, the Lieberman-approved "heh" and "indeed". :)

[LincolnMcGrath]

46. Says You! Or something! lol

Hard to believe good Dems have been driven away from here, yet others cling like a rash. :shrug:

And here is a tip for you, the louder and more belligerent they are, the more likely one of their posts from the past is haunting them.

[LowerManhattanite]

54. I took a many-month sabbatical from DU for the reasons many have...

...but i'm back, ready to help in the fight for 'ought-six, and more than willing to hold accountable those
who would trade pride, common justice and the sense God gave a gnat just to be petted on the head like a lapdog by Bush.

As for those willing to overlook the transgressions of a person who would back an utter failure like Bush, I simply say
a hearty *Joe Lieberman-approved "heh" and "indeed". :)



(*And as Lieberman has been officially approved by Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter and David Brooks, the "heh" and "indeed"
is de-facto approved by them as well.)

[MrBenchley]

48. I see McGrath is starved for attention again...

and has nothing to say worth hearing....

[LincolnMcGrath]

51. snicker

Oh wait, you said something worth hearing...

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[LincolnMcGrath]

53. And he'll do his best to lock this thread up now, lest anyone see the

past.

[MrBenchley]

73. And the far left slinks away, sulking....

[LincolnMcGrath]

74. Says You!

[Bjorn Against]

52. I would not have a problem with Lieberman going indy if he did it in a....

democratic way. But he instead wants to completely ignore the will of the voters. He needs to make up his mind NOW he is either a Democrat and he respects the primary results, or he is an independent and he drops out of the primary. Bernie Sanders has every right to run as an independent and I support him, while I would never vote for Lieberman as an independent I would support his right to run as such if he did it with class as Sanders is doing. You want to talk about honesty, well then how can you go along with Lieberman calling himself a petioning Democrat when there is no such thing?

[MrBenchley]

72. LOL!

"he instead wants to completely ignore the will of the voters"
Bullshit.

[LincolnMcGrath]

77. Are you telling us Joe is going to run away from his words too?

'Cause he said it.

[LowerManhattanite]

80. "Are you telling us Joe is going to run away from his words too?"

Impossible for him to run from his words, for snakes cannot run.


They s-s-s-s-s-s-slither. :)

[LincolnMcGrath]

81. lol

ssssssssss

[Bjorn Against]

87. Yes he is ignoring the will of the voters

He is going to run whether he wins the primary election or not. To ignore the results of an election is to ignore the will of the voters and no spin can change that simple fact. I don't possibly know how you could possibly argue otherwise.

Would you support Howard Dean if he stayed in the Presidential race after losing the primary?

[CTLawGuy]

56. Bernie sanders

is NOT running in the Dem primary and openly threatening to endanger party control of the seat by splitting the vote if he loses.

If Dems in VT want to back him, that's their right.

Of course you have no problem with a CONSERVATIVE running as an Indy... I think that says something.

[calico1]

58. Exactly. Two totally different situations. n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

60. You are talking to someone who thought Bernie Sanders resided

over a small left leaning district in Vt.

Actually he still might. lol

[Solon]

66. LOL...

Damn, the ignorance is astounding!

[LincolnMcGrath]

69. I'm waiting for a challenge on that one. Not likely to come though.

:hi:

[Solon]

70. That's common for these turncoat "Moderates", I answered...

LoZocco's question on the poll, even though its a BS poll to begin with, he hasn't bothered responding yet. Surprise surprise!

[LincolnMcGrath]

71. Unfortunately, there is very little with these dlcentrists that is either

centrist or moderate in their ideological positions.

[Solon]

75. They just seem to post flamebait and then complain when...

others call them on this BS. Talk about whiners.

[LincolnMcGrath]

79. Yep Whiners

[MrBenchley]

76. In other words, the hypocrisy of the far left is plain to see

"openly threatening to endanger party control of the seat"
Geeze, what seat would that be...the one in the House Bernie is clogging up NOT being a Democrat, or the one he's trying to keep out of the Democratic column in the Senate?

[LincolnMcGrath]

78. How has Bernie stopped a Dem from running

for the Senate from just his small left leaning house district?

[Solon]

82. Not to mention practically guaranteeing his House seat to Democrats...

Thumbs up to him, for being honest.

[CTLawGuy]

83. if LIeberman were to win as an Indy

would that be a Democratic seat in your mind?

[LincolnMcGrath]

84. That would depend on the season I believe.

:shrug:

Apparently MrB is pro-Joe this quarter.

[CTLawGuy]

85. MrB's silence on this has revealed a wealth of info about him

NT

[LincolnMcGrath]

86. The search feature reveals a whole lot more

lol

[MrBenchley]

88. Mostly it reveals how little attention I pay to worhtless posts....

except for their inadvertant comedy value.

[CTLawGuy]

89. So, Joe running as an indy is ok?

waiting to hear otherwise from you...

if I don't then how do we reconcile the difference between Lieberman and Sanders....

[LincolnMcGrath]

91. You got the comedy part right.

Educational for some, too!

[Ken Burch]

94. If you weren't paying attention to posts from real Democrats

(unlike anti-Democrats like yourself)you wouldn't be so scared that you felt you had to abuse and insult the progressive Democratic majority.

Keep up the good work, AL.

[Ken Burch]

103. It's been proven that it's enough that Bernie will support the

Democrats organizationally. The choice was always between supporting Bernie, who was the only non-reactionary who was electable in the VT. race, and supporting a no-hope loser there. You will agree, I hope, that supporting a Democratic loser against Bernie would have served no purpose, wouldn't you? Why can't you accept the fact that there wasn't a single Dem in that state who could have won the Senate race? Are you honestly saying the party should be working for Bernie's defeat? Why do you want to elect a Republican in Vermont?

What part of "It was always going to be Bernie or the GOP" don't you understand?

And it was proven that you were wrong about only people elected as Democrats counting towards Dem organizational control. If it weren't, we can assume Schumer would have dug up a certain loser in VT. to support your point. He's as much of a bastard about those things as you are, and as a sitting U.S. Senator himself Schumer wouldn't let that kind of a screwup happen.

And will you finally denounce Lieberman for his announcement that he won't end the campaign if he loses the primary? As a party-line kind of guy, you are kinda obligated to do that.

[Ken Burch]

93. Will you agree that someone who won't promise to support the winner

of the Democratic primary has no business running in that primary?

And there's a huge difference with Bernie. Bernie has never hurt the Democratic party. Lieberman, with his announcement that, to him, the primary doesn't count, has hurt it badly.

Will you denounce Lieberman for splitting the party when he has no reason to do so?

[movonne]

33. We already do... Joe lieberman...just because he has a D after

their names, does not make a democrat..

[madfloridian]

35. You are really saying Lieberman should have no opposition.

And that is just wrong. That sense of entitlement is wearing very thin.

[LoZoccolo]

37. How come you're forever telling me what I really think?

You need to find a new manipulative tactic. One that I haven't already figured out long ago.

[LincolnMcGrath]

40. You need to learn what push polling means.

If you are going to whine about tactics!!

[LoZoccolo]

43. You win.

And that means, you win the whole argument of the thread! Congratulations! You know what push polling is! I'm wrong about everything about politics!

:bounce: :toast: :thumbsup: :party:

[LincolnMcGrath]

47. "don't accuse me of trying to; just answer the question."

[Solon]

59. Actually you do anything but, you post BS polls...

then do everything possible to avoid challenge at all costs. Not to mention you have half of DU, including me, probably, on ignore, I think cowardice isn't something that is redeeming.

[LoZoccolo]

61. IT IS NOT A BALLOON! IT IS AN AIRSHIP!

#24!!!!

[LowerManhattanite]

62. How very apt...

Full of hot air and doomed to a fiery crash.

[LincolnMcGrath]

64. lol

:spray:

[LoZoccolo]

65. Me, or Lieberman? n/t

[LowerManhattanite]

68. As the old NFL Halftime ad used to go...

"Folks, you make the call! :)

[Solon]

63. My answer is that I want a (D) rather than an (I) in that seat...

you happy?

[DancingBear]

38. Poll: Could this question be any more transparent?

a) no

b) not a chance

c) of course not

d) just wait until next week!


<rolls eyes, but grudgingly gives props for following instructions>

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[CTLawGuy]

55. If Lieberman does not rescind his threat to run as an indy

having Lieberman lose to a Republican would be a fair short-term sacrifice for a long term benefit of a unified party.

Would I prefer it? Absolutely not.
Do I want that to happen? No

Would I set myself on fire over it? No.

[JerseygirlCT]

67. Hell yes, I'd mind

It's not going to happen, but oh yes, I'd mind.

[McCamy Taylor]

90. I dont support either man, I support the Democratic party. Leiberman

should stop holding his party hostage by threatening to run as a third party splitter if he is not nominated. That is not cool. It is so uncool that it makes him look like a Republican dweeb.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

95. I Would Prefer One Term of a Republican to Two or More of Joe

Joe is the worst type of viper, the one at your breast.

DTH

[Crunchy Frog]

96. I would mind very much.

That is why I very much hope that Lieberman doesn't pull a Nader and take votes away from the Democratic nominee, thereby possibly handing the seat to a Republican.

Why, how do you feel about Lieberman possibly pulling a Nader?

[sendero]

97. I don't care...

... every political calculation cannot be made in a defensive posture. The fact is, IMHO a "Democrat" who votes with the Republicans on evertything that really matters, gets on TV and bashes his own party and toadys to Bush continually - well, I'd just as soon have a Republican.

In other words, I'd prefer a n'er-do-well to a Judas.

[Vinca]

98. Yes, I would mind another Republican holding the seat. nt

[lojasmo]

99. Lieberman would be a spoiler for the republican.

If he runs in the general election. "Good" Democrats will NOT vote for Lieberman in the generals.

[skipos]

101. If all Dem candidates support the primary winner

there is no chance of a Republican winning the general election.

[rucky]

102. So it's our fault if Lieberman breaks from the party? n/t

[IndianaGreen]

106. The OP is upset that Lieberman is being challenged in the primary

and the OP will support Lieberman if he were to run as unaffiliated against the Democratic nominee. The OP has been posting nonsensical polls such as this one for sometime now, without disclosing his allegiance to Lieberman.

[alvarezadams]

104. Between a GOPer and a DLCer

I find the DLCer to be more of a danger.

Seriously.

The DLC represents a danger for progressive ideals inasmuch as it is trying to push the DNC to the right. In essence they are a "5th column" of the right.

So between to evils I'd choose the lesser one in an effort to keep an actual opposition party in existence. Between Lieberman and a paleocon GOPer I'd VOTE for the GOPer. Between Lieberman and a neocon GOPer I'd abstain.

Under NO cicrumstance would I ever vote for a neo-lib neocon DLC politician.

[IndianaGreen]

105. Lieberman should endorse Lamont if he loses the primary

instead of being a Republican spoiler!

[ihelpu2see]

108. The problem is, you must not live in CT. NO Republican has a chance

to win the seat!!!!

[MrBenchley]

109. Remind us again...what party does the governor belong to?

Oh yes, Republican Jodi Rell is in office (and sweeping toward re-election) because no Republican can win a statewide election in the Nutmeg state, according to current teen socialist fantasy ...

[CTLawGuy]

111. can I quote your post

to certain people who excuse Lieberman's threat to run as an indy, on the grounds that the Republican can't win?

[ihelpu2see]

113. Sorry to upset you Mr. Benchley. Im sure you know how Ms. Rell has come

to power. Yup, Mr. Rowland was thrown in jail.... But since we have such a dis-interested electorate no one knows better they see Jodi as an innocent bystander who is a cancer survivor and well, she never really seems to know what is going on. Evidenced by the recent CT supreme Court fiasco where she knew what was going on but played dumb to the press and well they gave her a pass, or lets say the whole tussle with Ms. Moody her campaign director doing illegal fund raising and again she publicly had no clue, just shrugged her shoulders.

For a true measure of how safe the seat is you look at the state senate and state house both are solid Dem. majorities. And with the anti-war, anti-Bush undertow I feel Lamont will fair quite well in the general, if he soundly defeats Joe in the primary...

[kentuck]

110. The only way we get a Repub in the seat is if a dumbass runs as an Indy...

Wonder who would do such a thing?? Surely not a Democrat.