If Joe Lieberman wins his primary, I will support him

[brentspeak]

Or, if I don't send money to his campaign, at least I'm not going to waste my time criticizing him, which is what far too many people on these boards are currently doing.

The goal for Democrats nationwide ought to be replacing Republicans with Democrats. Let the people of Connecticut decide between Lamont/Lieberman; we need to worry about November.

[kenny blankenship]

1. I hope other people in CT will be as mature as you are about it

Replace Lieberman if you can and if that's what CT democrats want to do, and I'll be very happy, but for godssake don't allow the seat to be taken by the Republicans. Really that is by far the most important priority.

[brentspeak]

4. I'm from NJ, and there's a good chance the Democrats will LOSE a Senate

seat: Robert Menendez appears extremely vulnerable against Republican challenger Thomas Kean, Jr. NJ hasn't had a Republican elected to the Senate in decades. But people here aren't paying any attention about that, preferring to blast away at Lieberman.

[Jersey Devil]

15. Not if you or I have anything to say about it

Let's mutually pledge to do all we can do to get the GOTV movement in high swing in NJ this year.

[MrBenchley]

29. Look around the country....

at the Webb challenge to racist George Allen, for example.

Not too long ago, I did a search of GD: Politics. There were a handful of threads attacking Allen or supporting Webb, and more than 200 threads from the Progressive Purist crowd attacking Lieberman (Search gives up after 200 or so results).

Kean is running a "Swift Boat" campaign based on lies....is the far left here up in arms about that? Nope.

[brentspeak]

30. It's time for the Democrats to take back Democratic Underground

[MrBenchley]

31. Agreed one hundred percent

I'm tired of extremist ratfucking like "What will you do if...." threads.

[IndianaGreen]

21. The OP is a staunch Lieberman supporter

and he has posted rationales for supporting Lieberman even if he were to lose the primary.

[kenny blankenship]

25. I see, yes, that changes things a bit

If Lieberman doesn't win the primary then I would hope anyone who's ever called themselves a Democrat would shun him for threatening to play the spoiler as an independent. It's his right to run independently; but it's also our right to shun him for creating a risk that the seat will be thrown to the Republicans.
If he does win the primary, then all Democrats should make sure he's reelected no matter how much he's pissed them off in the past. There's no such thing as an "expendable Senate seat"--especially not now with such a closely divided national electorate, and especially not now when Democrats don't have a large Senate majority, or any Senate majority, or any House majority, and don't control the Presidency, and are outvoted on the Supreme Court...

[cantstandbush]

28. The goal should be to elect people who are best for the country first.

Lieberman would not be one of those in my opinion.

[IndianaGreen]

2. Will you support Lamont if he beats Lieberman?

Or will you support Lieberman when he runs as an independent?

[MercutioATC]

6. Not an Independent, he's started his own political party...(link)

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--senate-connecticu0710jul10,0,7530996.story?coll=ny-region-apconnecticut

[bullimiami]

3. i would not and cannot support him, its not good enough to just be

a democrat. that would be the same sickness that keeps republicans supporting bush.

[MercutioATC]

5. I'm on the other side of the bench.

I can't vote for him...I live in Ohio.

I've sent money to Ned Lamont's campaign. I won't do the same for Lieberman.

If Lieberman loses the primary, I won't support his 3rd party run (it's not an independant run since he's started his own political party).

If Lieberman wins the primary, I'll say what I always have about him...that he's a cancer to be purged from the party.

After all is said and done, it will be up to the voters of Connecticut to decide. I'll just have to trust they'll choose wisely.

[nosmokes]

7. what if there was a viable opponent,

even a repub, who was more liberal in the general election? one who was asnti-war, pro-choice, and had a good enviro record and was polling well? you'd still vote for hotlips joe even if this mythicl candidate X was polling well?

[LoZoccolo]

14. What if C-A-T really spelled "dog"? n/t

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[Mz Pip]

16. So his opponents

would like you to believe. If Lieb loses the primary and goes indy, then CT may pick up a Repug Senate seat.

But so what. The purists can stand on high moral ground while the Repugs continue on their path of destruction. Thing is, high moral ground doesn't really count for much the Dems don't hve control of the Seanate or the House. But so what? It's all about purity.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[CTyankee]

32. The Republican, Alan Schlesinger (AKA Alan Gold) is not going

anywhere, except back to Woodbridge, CT. He certainly didn't bring any prosperity to the town he was mayor of, Derby. That is one dumpy little rust belt town and it is sad. Mr Schlesinger (or Mr. Gold to the casinos at Foxwoods where he used an alias while gambling)has not distinguished himself in anything and the state Republican party wants him now to "reconsider" his running for Senate as the Republican, now that the gambling story is out. Oh well, at least it isn't as bad as the guy who ran against Joe last time. That was PHil Giordano, former mayor of Waterbury (another garden spot in the state, NOT)as was being investigated by the FBI on mob related activities when they found out he was procuring little girls from their dope addled aunt for sex in his office.

[Mz Pip]

35. That sounds hopeful

I don't want the Dems to lose this seat. I live far from CT so don't get much news about what's going on there except for what I read here. I don't hate Lieberman as much as a lot of Duers do, but if Lamont has a chance of unseating him and winning in November, go for it. Lamont has views closer to mine anyway (not that I have a say in this.)

Still Republicans are kind of over the top to their loyalty to party. I can easily see Tom DeLay winning his seat back in November.

Hope CT Repubs aren't quite so nuts.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[CTyankee]

38. Don't know much more about Schlesinger

but if even his own party doesn't like him, he's not going too far. As a matter of fact, I did see him briefly on TV and he looks and sounds as cheesy as his actions.

Ned is such a class act there is really no comparison. Even the right of center New Haven Register said Ned won the debate with Joe.

[LoZoccolo]

17. And reading your posts is like wasting my time.

See you in November.

[ClassWarrior]

39. The (D) behind that Republicon's name can help make Ted Kennedy...

...a Senate Committee Chair. If Holy Joe wins the primary, of course.

NGU.

[Demit]

9. I beg to differ. The goal for Democrats nationwide is to be

a clear, true opposition party. Criticizing Lieberman goes to that. He is far too eager to throw in with the ruling Republicans, and he makes a show of it, as if it something daring & visionary on his part. He is attempting to ride out the storm--one of his own making--on some very outdated Democratic laurels. It is only being partially snarky to point out that yes, we who are cheering on Lamont over Lieberman in CT's senate race are hoping to replace a de facto Republican with a true Democrat.

[LoZoccolo]

18. "He is far too eager to throw in with the ruling Republican"

Then why isn't he a Republican?

[Seabiscuit]

23. Why isn't he a Republican?

Because he's too much of a political coward. He's also too much of a hypocritical weasel. He's also a puppet for Israel. He also enjoys his years of deceitfully infiltrating the Democratic Party - he thinks he's smarter than everyone because he's fooled so many Democrats for so many years. Unfortunatly, most Democrats have smelled his rancid coffee long enough by now to know its undrinkable.

To use a Cheneyism: "Go fuck yourself, Joe Loserman!"

[Seabiscuit]

24. With Lieberman in the Senate, you can't count his seat as Democrat.

He'll vote with the rubber-stamping Repubs on all the important issues. So keeping him there tilts the Senate to the Repukes. May as well have a Repuke in that seat. At least then you can call a spade a spade.

No, I'd never even support him for dogcatcher any more, no matter what nomination he won along the way. He needs to be eliminated. Period.

[calico1]

10. Well, since I am a CT resident

I feel I have every right to critcize him since he is not representing me nor a lot of other people here who voted for him. That being said, I am not going to go campaign for the Republican candidate if Lieberman ends up winning the primary so don't worry. :eyes: But please don't tell me that criticizing Lieberman is a waste of time or imply that I should just keep my mouth shut about him. He certainly has plenty of criticism for anyone doesn't support him 100%. Oh and by the way, the Republican has a snowball's chance in Hell of being elected as things stand now. Not only is he not well known in the State but the Gov. is asking him to reconsider his run since it has been discovered that he used a fake name to gamble in one of the local casinos. I'm not worried about him.

[CTyankee]

33. I just posted a similar thought. Doesn't it amaze you that

people who are not even in CT seem to know exactly what we are and why we are voting for Ned?

I asked one poster on another thread to please tell me what state he was in so I could then tell him what he should do. I didn't get a response.

[FogerRox]

11. At the same time I hope Joe goes down HARD, MuaHAHAHAHahahah

[mmonk]

12. I oppose the 30 year war and the security state.

So I guess I'd be in opposition to him. Likewise with the old dem from Georgia, Zell Miller or the old dem from Alabama, George Wallace. I'm not such a party loyalist as to go against my conscience.

[brentspeak]

13. Lieberman isn't perfect (to say the least)

but please don't lump him in with Zell-Out Miller. Unlike Miller, Lieberman votes with the Democrats the majority of the time.

[mmonk]

20. Zell Miller is just an example

of how I vote conscience over party label. In that vein, I cannot support Lieberman either. My vote, my conscience (though I can't vote for or against him, but his stands in enabling things that affect my life negatively won't go unnoticed by me).

[Hippo_Tron]

19. Me too

Taking back the Senate is more important than my disdain for Lieberman. That said, I hope that he doesn't win the primary.

[jasop]

22. But the reason Faux News and the PNAC media and Co. are supporting him..

is because it alsmost garauntees a victory for their guy. And EVEN if, by some chance, Lieberman wins.. they get the same type of voting on all their "issues".

[SaveElmer]

26. Like the DNC, Hillary CLinton, John Kerry and others...

I will support the nominee of the Democratic Party. If the Democratic voters of Connecticut can look past the betrayal of their trust by Joe Lieberman and renominate him...I would be hypocritical not to do the same..

[nosmokes]

27. which is one reason why, even w/ the GOPosse on lifesupport the Dems

still are far from a sure thing to take over congress in the mid-terms. the country fucking bleeding to death and the best the dem leadership can do is the same song in a different key.

[jonnyblitz]

34. good for you. I won't...

he can go fuck himself. I am sure glad I am a CT voter...MUWAHAHAHA

[calico1]

36. Me too.

Fuck you, Lieberman!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

37. Foregone conclusion.

:shrug:

[DCal]

40. It's too bad Lieberman won't make the same commitment

if he loses the primary. In fact, he will run attack ads, funded by pharmaceutical companies, against the Democratic primary winner.