Folks, this coming election will decide what America is to become.

[cantstandbush]

It's, perhaps, the most important election in our history. I hope this message can be conveyed to everyone you know, especially your evangelical Christian friends. Abortion and gay marriage won't matter if America isn't free and becomes a nation torn to shreds by neocon policies.

[yurbud]

1. now get democrats in Congress to say that and fight the voting machines

people are doing their part, but the leadership is not.

[BlueCaliDem]

12. You are SO right! This election is the Democrats' to lose. Those voting

...machines can count the votes for Republicans time and again, but it's the Democratic candidates; members of the so-called "opposition party" who have the power to stop them from stealing power like Obrador is successfully stopping Bush's friend, Calderon, in Mexico, or allow it to happen again.

To take Bush's words and change it a little: "When Democrats stand up, Republicans & their corrupt e-voting machines, will stand down."

The country has shown in poll after poll that we're all sick and tired of being sick and tired, and it's time for a change.

Now the Democratic Party needs to show just why they're still even remotely relevant as opposition party, and fight for the American people, the dreams of our Forefathers against a growing dictatorship our country's becoming today.

(misspelled and corrected Obrador's name. Sorry.)

[yurbud]

13. Democrats seem to be counting on "overwhelming" turnout to compensate

for voter suppression and rigging.

That won't work.

Long lines, purges, and other harrassment work well to negate turnout, and Democrats have consistently defended a set of values that would inspire overwhelming turnout.

If they want to win, they have to go balls out on calling the GOP on what they are doing. The "culture of corruption" idea was best they had in a while, and they need to take that to the next level and explain that cronyism and corruption are the heart of this administration--and the real motive they invaded Iraq.

[BlueCaliDem]

14. You're right. Overwhelming turnout didn't work in 2004, and it won't work

...this time.

We've seen that.

Face it. The deck is stacked against the majority voice in this nation.

With Choicepoint file purging, the abuse of provisional ballots that are never counted but pushed on predominently Black people; phone-jamming, and 5 to even 9 hour lines, not to mention faulty-but-always-Republican-benefitting e-voting machines...the repubs have successfully suppressed the will of the People.

Had Al Gore demanded that the people of Florida and across the Nation stand up against the SCOTUS, do you really think they would've made the unprecedented decision to "hear" Bush v Gore?

The only weapon we have left in this war (and make no mistake, it's a war!) to stop these Stalin-style "elections" is the very fact that we are in the majority, and with the right leadership, we can be heard across the nation.

But it would take leadership like Mexico's Obrador to set it off.
If Obrador voters in Mexico can do it; force a hand-recount of all ballots by merely coming out en masse because Obrador refuses to have the election stolen with Bush's and Choicepoint's help, why can't our leadership?

[monarch]

2. Abortion and gay marriage DO matter.

They won't stop there. If those two issues aren't important to you, they WILL get to the issues that are important to you. They are attacking every fundamental right that we have taken for granted for too long.

[rucky]

6. re-read the OP. n/t

[monarch]

11. I guess you're right.

I'm just so accustomed to people telling gays not to rock the boat that I missed the fact that the poster was directing his argument to the other side.

[Minnesota Libra]

3. This next election will determine everything about...........

....America and whether we remain a super power or whether we will thereafter be a second rate country. Based on what seems like a mental disconnect of the general public I'm not very hopeful.

[mtnsnake]

4. We said that the last time, & our worst nightmare has come true

From now on, every election now becomes "the most important election in our history."

[jus_the_facts]

8. And they're all rigged so.....it's not so important anymore.....

....EVERY elelction in history is supposed to be the most important....instead now they're simply impotent. :nopity:

[Skittles]

5. actually, the last election decided that

this one can only hope to fix a small part of the damage done

[speedy gonzalez]

7. with Diebold running the show...

it's a lost cause.

[jus_the_facts]

9. Don't forget Sequoia as well.....

:banghead:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2718003

[speedy gonzalez]

10. yep

good point

[blues90]

15. I really hope you are right

This however is what was said in 2004 . i put in alot of effort and woke up like others did in shock and I don't think the shock has worn off yet .

The only hope is in there may be many more people who thought bush was ok or people that did not vote who have become a victim in some way and now realize they need to do something this time around .

Now even more damage has been done and I don't see where we would begin to turn it around if we did gain control of the house and senate .

For me my entire life as I knew it is gone and it's an everyday worry just to keep going . Everyone has their breaking point , I am only glad I don't have children to worry about but there is my wife .

I was so certain Kerry would win , I was so relieved as I walked home after voting , finally the end of bush and the end of the killing .

I wish I knew more or could piece together a bit of new found hope .

[GreenTea]

16. Our votes being counted by an admitted republican corporation, Diebold

They tell us who won, no way to confirm anything and they tell us we can't see the actual results and exactly how they were counted?

Just trust them....Republicans?

Show us proof is our cry, that they do not, and refuse to hear!

A private corporation controlling the machines we paid for...yet they say they own them?

Republicans!