What If... We Never Went To War In Gulf War One?

[GOPS Worst Fear]

I heard a woman bring this concept up on KGO one night about 2 years ago. Had we not went to the Gulf War the first time under Pappy Bush, Bin laudin would not have been pissed enough to want to terrorize the U.S. That is WHY he bombed us several times he said. That we set soldiers on holy land. What would have happened if we had let Kuwait fight it's own war against Saddam? More than likely They would have still won with the help of Sandi Arabia. Nothing good has come out of us being there. Especially since Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 and we attacked it pre-emptively. Now Isreal and other countries think it's ok to attack first.

..Just food for thought...

[Jim__]

1. Before Saddam invaded Kuwait, he asked for our permission.

The US, through April Glaspie, and apparently under the orders of poppy bush said we had no interest in Arab-Arab conflicts. The whole fucking thing could have been avoided if poppy were really any smarter than junior. The whole family are assholes and they are may lead us into WWIII.

[Democrats_win]

2. This episode's lesson: wars can have unforseen consequences.

[rzemanfl]

3. Well, then those nasty Iraqis would still be throwin' them little

Kuwait babies out of their incubators! Why do you hate freedom?

:sarcasm:

[AusGail]

6. The so called nurse who was accusing the Iraqis of throwing

the Kuwait babies out of the incubators turned out to be an American diplomat's wife. Gulf War 1 was started with a lie as well.

[rzemanfl]

10. No, it wasn't a nurse, it was the teen-aged daughter of the

Kuwaiti Ambassador.

On edit, one source from among many:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.htm

[AusGail]

15. Thankyou for that information

It still proves that Gulf War 1 was started with a lie.

[NoPasaran]

4. Had the Gulf War not been fought

A militarily powerful aggressive dictatorship would have successfully annexed one of its neighbors (Kuwait)with its enormous oil reserves. Iraq would have become a regional superpower and by now would likely have actually been the sort of international danger that Bushco pretended it was in 2003, instead of the disarmed shell of a nation it actually was. Fighting that war was a good thing. It destroyed the offensive capabilities of Saddam's army and ended his WMD programs. Too bad Bush, Cheney and the rest of the gang of criminals insisted on destabilizing the entire region by destroying what remained.

[GOPS Worst Fear]

5. I doubt that.

Iraq was nere threat in that way. Kuwait and Sandi Arabia could have wiped the floor up with them.

[Solon]

7. You know, if we didn't tell Saddam to go ahead with that war, it could...

have been avoided in the first place. His mistake in trusting his ally.

[niyad]

8. ummm you do remember that saddam was one of our allies up until the

very moment he invaded kuwait, right? you are aware that the reason he went after kuwait was because they were doing diagonal drilling into iraq's oil fields, and bush41-through the idiot ambassador, said it was an internal arab problem? iraq was not the be-all and end-all threat, don't know where you got that idea.

[CJCRANE]

9. If you look at things from Saudi Arabia's viewpoint

then the action's of the Bush's make sense.

Saddam was a secualr socialist leader with quite a large army and hence a growing player in the region. Once Saddam had invaded Kuwait (with a nod and a wink from the US ambassador) that gave Bush Snr the excuse he needed to knock Saddam down to size. Of course US troops then got stationed in Saudi Arabia which bin Laden and the fundamentalists didn't like too much. So what does Bush Jnr do - he moves the troops out of Saudi Arabia and occupies Iraq (now everyone's happy, well in the BFEE at least). Now the Saudi leadership have got an insurance policy because they got a huge contingent of American troops next door in Iraq (they just need to make a phonecall to their 'cowboy' buddy if they need some extra security).

[rzemanfl]

11. Your argument assumes that a major troop movement through

occupied Iraq could be accomplished without serious casualties from IED's, suicide bombers, RPG's, snipers, etc. I think the Saudis were better off when the U.S. had troops to spare who could be flown in to Prince Sultan airbase on short notice.

[CJCRANE]

13. I guess you're right

I still think the Saudi influence on the B*sh family is the 800 lb gorilla in the room that the MSM will never talk about.

[rzemanfl]

14. You have that right. "House of Bush, House of Saud" laid that

out, but the M$M is bought and paid for.

[Hosnon]

12. Sometimes you have to take the hard road. Sovereign nations cannot just be

invaded.