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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:19 AM
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Democrats and Progressives are ashamed of themselves
That's the underlying message that gets sent out everytime the GOP complains and makes Dems and Progressive organizations pull a legitimate ad.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:21 AM
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1. IMHO
boots representing the lost would be just as impressive. why not just edit. i understand the agony of seeing a loved one's coffin in a political add.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:22 AM
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2. Or a weeping spouse with children holding a folded flag
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TrueFunkSoldier Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:27 AM
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3. That's the thing that has been bothering me...
...about how they are describing the Mexico election conflict. They keep referring to Obrador as the "leftest," or "left wing." I noticed that libbies in this country refer to themselves as "progressive," rather than "liberal" or "lefty." The connie fascists have done a superb job in turning "liberal" into a prejorative, evil thing and making many libbies ashamed and even fearful of the label. I say embrace liberalism. The only way to dispel the untruths is to make people understand what liberalism is and is not.

By the way, Jesus Christ himself was a liberal. Everything He stood for was liberal. His teachings are at the very fundamental root of liberalism.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:32 AM
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4. I am a proud liberal combat zone veteran
and I love sharing that fact with every chickenhawk who has the pleasure to meet me. Flag draped coffins are the result of civilian leadership; one would think neocons would be proud of such a display because "conservatives" in America don't give one flying fuck about our kids dying in Iraq.
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:48 PM
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14. So therefore what you are saying is ...
1) no civilian should have any say about military strategy
2) no military person would ever advocate war

Doesn't make sense, sorry.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 11:41 AM
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5. The coffins were ANONYMOUS
and no one need be offended. Your concern is highly misplaced.

The message I get is that party conservatives are still in control and that they are cowards. I see no message regarding liberals or progressives in this fiasco.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:10 PM
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6. Plus the message got out even though it was pulled. People are
talking about it and news programs are featuring it. Mission accomplished.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 02:21 PM
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9. you are correct
but my brother came home in one of those coffins and that is my reaction.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:47 PM
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7. I am tired of how the right keeps playing the guilt and apologize
trip, on Democrats and Progressives, it is time for us to stop walking with our tale between our legs, it is time for us to hit back hard. It is total BS. and reminds of another saying I heard: "Americans are the biggest BS'ers and the easiest to BS", and that's why we are at this point and Bush is laughing at all of us.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 12:52 PM
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8. I have a feeling it's not the GOP - it's those wishy-washy Dems...
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 12:52 PM by ClassWarrior
...of old, many of whom are still entrenched in the party.

But at least the new Progressive Dem movement has had some success in getting this kind of stuff out the door. Something like this never would have gotten even that far just a few years ago.

Those of us who are getting involved ARE moving the meter. Now we need the rest of you to get involved!!

NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:19 PM
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10. Sorry. No red meat here. Just a dose of reality.
:shrug:

NGU.


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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:21 PM
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11. Some folks think it was a super secret long term strategy
:shrug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:40 PM
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12. As I said yesterday, I think it's growing pains. Let's...
...celebrate the good while working for more of it. Right?

:hi: Linc...

NGU.


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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 04:52 PM
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13. I think there's an element of truth in it.

One of the basic tenets of the American right is that America - or, to be more precise, their idealised notion of America - is perfect, and one of the basic tenets of the American left is that it isn't.

Most liberals believe that a lot of the problems in the world are a result of American (and European) exploitation, and this does mean that most American & European liberal movements include an element of shame, or at least guilt by association.

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eliphaiku Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:12 AM
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15. Meanwhile on the right,...
Cryptofascists post hate speech like this, and have the nerve to laugh about it. This makes me so angry, I can barely focus on important issues like Ken Lay!

Ms. American Spy
(Sung to the tune of Don McLean's American Pie)

A short, short time ago
I can still remember
How the "Plame Game" used to make me smile
And as I read those D-Kos rants
I got a big bulge in my pants
And thought maybe we'd get "Chimpy" for awhile

But then June 12th made me shiver
Fate became an "Indian Giver"
Bad news on the Internet
Precisely what I had fret!

Oh, I remember how I cried
When I thought of Wilson's "outed" bride
Something deep within me fried
The day that Fitzmas died

So don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly
This'll be the day donkeys fly

Did you see the film Loose Change?
And do you have faith you're not deranged
Though ev'rybody tells you so?
Do you believe in "Downing Street"
The "Memo" that'll get Shrub impeached?
And can you prove Kerry won O-hi-o?

Well, I know that Diebold rigs machines
'Cause the exit polls are all I need
Vote counts are just a ruse
I'd Rather trust CBS News!

I was a lone mid-thirties ne'er do well
In my Mommy's basement on her old-school Dell
But I could have sworn I was in Hell
The day that Fitzmas died

I started singin':
Don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly
This'll be the day donkeys fly

For nearly six years, we'd been overthrown
Reading psychotic rants in Rolling Stone
Believing every conspiracy
Will Pitt had to vent his spleen
With a quote he borrowed from Howard Dean
And a scream that came from you and me

Oh, and while Chimp's polls were looking down
Fitz dropped the ball and lost his crown
The Grand Jury was adjourned
No indictment was returned
And while Markos read a book on Marx
Code Pink protested in the park
Neil Young sang dirges full of snark
The day that Fitzmas died

We were singing:
Don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly
This'll be the day donkeys fly

Bash 'em, smash 'em, gut 'em all and trash 'em
Repukes get off, seems we just can't thrash 'em
All our hopes are fading fast
Nancy's built a House of glass
Those frozen assets could bite our ass
Didn't need that freezer full of cold hard cash

Thought TruthOut's scoop meant Karl Rove's doom
We envisioned his frog-marching gloom
Our cause it would advance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause Leopold's tale was far afield
Those "business hours" refused to yield
Do you recall "Sealed Versus Sealed"?
The day that Fitzmas died

We started singing:
Don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly
This'll be the day donkeys fly

Oh, and there we were all in one place
Moonbats lost in cyberspace
With no chads left to count again
So come on, Fitz be nimble, Fitz be quick
Indict some Rethug and make it stick
'Cause indifference is the fascists' only friend

And as I watched him on the news
My lips were clenched 'round some cheap booze
But no drink the store would sell
Could break Bushitler's spell
And as the "Plame Game" died out in the light
To cheers from the "Religious Right"
I saw Freepers laughing with delight
The day that Fitzmas died

We were singing:
Don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly
This'll be the day donkeys fly

I met a girl who'd popped some 'ludes
And I asked her to improve my mood
But she told me that she was gay
I went down to the DU board
Where I'd read the good news weeks before
But the threads there said the indictment wouldn't play

And in the streets Mother Sheehan screamed
Franken cried, and Al Gore schemed
No "truth to power" spoken
Air America was broken!
And the blogger I admired most
Armando from the Daily Kos
He hopped a Lear Jet for the coast
The day that Fitzmas died

And they were singing:
Don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly
This'll be the day donkeys fly

They were singing:
Don't cry, Ms. American Spy
We'll get Libby for his fibby
And then Cheney will fry
And that smirking chimp will finally wave us goodbye
Singin', this'll be the day donkeys fly!

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