I can't believe how many here have baught into the moronic "Kerry/Edwards"

[Bombtrack]

that idea of a ticket has no grounding in our political necessity. Would Edwards make a good vp? Yeah, probably, but NOT for John Kerry. Kerry CAN NOT be competative in Florida in any probability if he doesn't have Graham as his runningmate. Edwards is the only candidate who could ever carry NC in all probablity, but only at the top of the ticket and even that would be difficult.

Most of the media whores who haven't shut up about this idea since AFTER Edwards announced he was running for PRESIDENT, either don't have a clue about the details of our current national political balances and trends or don't want Edwards to be nominated as the one on the top of the ticket so they reduce him by floating the vp angle. They did and have done that to both Graham and Clark as well.

It is just dumb in my opinion to nominate an eastern establishment New Englander over one of 2 humbly-born southernors because it pretty much automatically slashes of a huge number of electoral votes and gives you no margin of error, but to then pass over the potential runningmate who could make the single most important swingstate and only possible southern state competative for you, because another candidate "would make a nice vp" is ludicrous.

If Kerry does get nominated, Edwards can be just as good a president-in-waiting as an Attorney General, at least for one term, than as a VP

[Feanorcurufinwe]

1. What is the basis for your assertion

"Kerry CAN NOT be competative in Florida" ?

[bowens43]

2. It's just dumb to nominate someone based

on geography. You insult southerners when you suggest that they won't vote for anyone not from the south. Graham never had a chance and Clark has nothing to offer.


Edwards will make a fine VP.

[Bombtrack]

4. I never, ever suggested southernors won't vote for non=southernors

but 2 rural/poor-born, southernors are in contention, and 2(or 1 now) upper-class, eastern-establishment New Englanders from the 2(or 1) worst states a democratic nominee could possibly come from electability-wise are in contention.

The best state a democratic nominee could come from would be Florida. And the best region they could come from is either the south or southwest, or after that, one of the big midwestern states like Ohio.

But we don't have any serious candidates running from those places. Just like the best states a republican could run from strategically would be Pennsylvania, or Michigan.

It's not insulting one bit to point out political trends that even the most casual observer of politics can observe.

[papau]

8. Gep or Graham make a lot of political balance sense - but Edwards

is a great campaign speaker - and might be more useful.

[slor]

3. I tire of the "Dems cannot win in south"...

mantra. Whomever the Dem nominee is, when he mentions jobs going abroad he will bypass and short circuit any gods guns and gays issue. You can take that to the bank friends!

[Bombtrack]

5. Some democrats can and some democrats PROBABLY can't

I tire of people putting words into my mouth. I go to school at one of the most renowned colleges of the south in the social sciences and I am required to study what does and doesn't win elections where and when.

Clark would probably make Arkansas, Louisiana, and Florida into into swingstates(and NC, Georgia and Virginia into longshots). Edwards could make Florida and Louisiana into swingstates, with Georgia as a longshot.

A Kerry/Edwards couldn't win Florida, in almost all probability. And we need the best probability we can get.

I was an Edwards-supporter and volunteer before Clark joined the race and I have nothing against him. But he isn't a good VP FOR KERRY.

[colonel odis]

6. i think the continuing talk about edwards as kerry's vp

is patronizing and paternal. if it's kerry's folks floating that idea, screw them.

kerry would make a fine president. edwards would make a fine president. (finer, in my humble opinion.) but i feel like there's a condescending attitude toward edwards. like maybe he'll do ok when he grows up.

phft! edwards is all grown up. he's got a message that negates bush's tactic of scaring the working class. what he says is positive, optimistic, and what you win elections with.

it's not like he NEEDS john kerry.

[ShaneGR]

7. We don't need Florida, we need Ohio, West Virginia....

Louisiana, and Arkansas. In fact, I don't think we should even mount a campaign in Florida... instead choosing to tell the media "Why bother? Jeb Bush is governor, obviously he'll just fix the election again."

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