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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:16 AM
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'Are you going to kill me?'
Well, when you are trying to rally your "base", and you are a right-winger, of course you have to step it down to the 1st grade mentality level.

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Brownback Holds Up Drawing Of Embryo, Asks ‘Are You Going To Kill Me?’

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) is leading the opposition to the H.R. 810, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act. Yesterday, during debate on the bill, he held up a picture of an embryo drawn by a 7-year-old girl. Relaying a conversation with the girl’s mother, Brownback said the embryo was asking the Senate, “Are you going to kill me?”



http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/18/brownback-embryo/

Watch it:
http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/brownbackhannah.320.240.mov

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:19 AM
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1. Oh please !!!
What a clown !!! And a scoundrel !!!

I can't wait to vote against the Republicans.
It's gonna feel SOOOO good.

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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:19 AM
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2. We're kids, I love you?
When did embryos become kids? That is so ridiculous.
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:20 AM
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3. There's stupid-funny, and then
there's just plain stupid. This falls into the latter category. :banghead:
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:20 AM
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4. I wonder about all the little Iraqi children Brownback voted to kill...
...oh, excuse me... "liberate."
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:30 AM
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7. What about all the
kids that stem cell research will cure?!
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:33 AM
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9. He should author a bill to use dead Iraqi children to cure the embryos n/t
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:16 PM
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27. Or dead kids from Katrina
eom
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:22 AM
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5. I watched that live on C-SPAN and laughed through the.............
....entire thing. You talk about fake emotion - that was a great example.


I loved one of the comments below the article........"This only goes to prove that there’s not much difference between the way a conservative looks at the world and the way a seven-year-old does,"

True and to the point.:applause:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:29 AM
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6. Stem Cells are the new Sea Monkeys

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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:31 AM
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8. Thanks for the morning spit take! n/t
:rofl:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:35 AM
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20. LOL!!!
:rofl:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:59 AM
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21. I never could train those "sea monkeys"
when I was a kid. Like what kid reads the subscript "Caricatures shown not intended to depict Artemia". I got so mad I fed them to my goldfish.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:43 PM
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28. That's pretty much what brine shrimp are meant for.
"Sea Monkeys" being a fancy name for overly expensive brine shrimp.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:38 AM
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10. Answer: Only if you are gay or brown sweetie, only if you are gay or brown
Or liberal or a critical thinker or in some other way unsuitable. (read: not a neocon robot)



My favorite Future Famous Dead Artist: KarenParker
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:32 AM
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19. That's okay I'm a shallow follower who believes in Jesus....
...and I have a gun
(In fact I got two, That's okay man 'cuz I love God.... oh, sorry i was infested with pearl jam)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:39 AM
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11. Lock him up in an Alzheimer's Ward of a Nursing home for a month
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 07:50 AM
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12. let's all adopt embryos and keep them as pets
i wonder if there would be follow-up by the gov't to be sure we weren't mistreating them.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:10 AM
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13. I wrote this when the term SNOWFLAKE BABY was coined
Bush and the Blastocysts

1) Where did the President get the term SNOWFLAKE BABY?
2) Does he know the stages of cellular and fetal development?
3) Since he thinks that all frozen "embryos" actually in this case, called blastocysts, should be given LIFE... Where the hell is he going to find all these women who will be willing to carry, give birth to and then support a child that has no relation to them? That would roughly be in the neighborhood of 330,000 wombs. What about all of the already born, unwanted babies out there? Shouldn't they get a crack at a family first?
4) Has W thought about the following probabilities: These "Snowflake babies" will probably have several brothers and or sisters wandering around. Also, the legal parent(s) will be responsible for any unknown genetic problems arising from the unknown sperm and egg donors. Who will foot the medical bills when those problems arise? (which could possibly be cured if stem cell research was promoted and not a religious ethical question.)
5) What ABOUT those unknown donors? Do they WANT their genetic offspring brought to life without their permission and then raised by people of unknown background, origin, religious beliefs etc? Do Jewish donors want their genetic material to be brought to life and raised by members of the KKK?
6) Has the President, who, as far as I know, has a very limited background in medical research, given any thought to what the political and ethical backlash that his offensive statements regarding these groups of 60 cells will be?
7) Since Bush believes that using blastocysts for medical research is akin to murder, what about the thousands of implanted blastocysts which are rejected by the mother? Should her womb be brought up on charges for murder?

To presume that all of these groups of cells should be brought to life in some draconian manner is absurd. Around 30,000 blastocysts are frozen annually. No where near that number are used for actual fertilization... Where do they go? Most of them end up, after several years in storage, being tossed out. AND with no funeral! The cost of keeping a petrie dish of blastocysts in frozen storage is about $50 each month they are kept in limbo. So once a couple conceives once or twice the remaining cells are left in cold storage until space has run out and there is no more room in the cylinder. To argue that these frozen cells should not be used for medical research is archaic. To deny medical professionals laboring to discover cures for numerous diseases in which stem cell research is an important part, is limiting their ability, as scientists to relieve the suffering of the living and their families.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:20 AM
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14. Ha! Good issues to think about there.....and would get the
Right to Lifers on the extremem ignorant side..thinking for a minute or two.

But the extremes are so extreme they might just support women being forced to carry these blastocysts and force the sperm from one of their more aggregious finantics to fertilize them...
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:32 AM
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16. About blastocysts
The clump of cells has already been fertilized ... But then you knew that, right????

The Reich-Wing is trying to kill us all.

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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:20 AM
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29. Bush is completely clueless
He spouts what his handlers tell him to - and they don't have a flying clue what they're talking about either. They count on the fact that their "base" is completely ignorant in matters of science. If God is that worried about fertilized embryos becoming babies, why did He design a system that oftener than not loses them as a matter of course? Run that by your favorite fundie and watch their head explode.

If it's murder to use them in research, what is it to just dispose of them as will otherwise occur? The insanity that passes for logic in these Tightie Righties defies belief...

Todd in Beerbratistan
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:23 AM
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15. Oh, he should have drawn a picture of an embryo on the side of his fist.
Then he could have held up his fist and made the embryo's lips move while he was speaking for it.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 08:37 AM
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17. SAVE THE SPERM!!! EVERY SPERM IS SACRED!! Here is a blastocyst


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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:03 AM
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18. And I heard it talking to me!! It said the RW is full of wackos and please
don't let me grow up to be one!!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:41 PM
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23. I think it's smiling at me! Hey, that looks like Jesus! n/t
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:35 AM
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22. New Democratic Slogan........
Vote for us because THEY'RE OUT OF THEIR FUCKING MINDS!!!!
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:09 PM
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24. Brownback certainly is appropriately named.
Brown nose, brown shirt ...
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:23 PM
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25. I'm not really a Kansan...really.
I was raised in California...really. I really consider myself a Californian...really. I just came back here to attend graduate school and wound up staying...really.

My senators really embarrass me...:blush:...really.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 04:31 PM
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26. Why oh why do they have to be assholes?
The twisted thoughts a brainwashed exploited 7 yr old girl is now how we make decisions in Congress?? WTF????
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