Lamont Pulls Even With Lieberman In Latest Poll

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This article confirms what I'm seeing in my CT neighborhood: 100% Lamont signs, no Lieberman signs.

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-poll-lamont-lieberman-0720,0,7839292.story?coll=hc-headlines-home

Lamont Pulls Even With Lieberman In Latest Poll

8:17 AM EDT, July 20, 2006

The Associated Press HAMDEN, Conn. -- Democratic challenger Ned Lamont has pulled into a dead heat in his U.S. Senate race with incumbent Joe Lieberman, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday.

The poll shows Lamont ahead 51-47 percent among likely voters in the Aug. 8 Democratic primary. That compares to a 55-40 percent lead for Lieberman in a similar poll in June.

snip:

The campaign announced Thursday that former President Bill Clinton will be coming to Connecticut to campaign for Lieberman.

The two politicians have known each other since Clinton worked on Lieberman's first campaign for state Senate in 1970. Clinton was a student at Yale University at the time.

Clinton has defended Lieberman's position on the war in Iraq, saying he agrees with Lieberman that the U.S. should not set a strict timetable for withdrawing soldiers.

Clinton has also said he thinks it is wrong for Democrats to challenge one of their own.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Doesn't matter - Lamont won't beat Joementum in the GE

I almost hope Lieberman wins the primary now, just so we don't have to walk down that path. Fucking disgusting. x(

[saltpoint]

5. Can't say for sure, but the trendline is running sharply against

Lieberman now.

Lamont has come from virtually nowhere to tie or nose ahead of a 3-term incumbent Senator.

Schlesinger is pretty much marginal.

True, Lieberman as an independent could still win in November.

But if Lamont beats him in the primary, the chart lines turn sharply upward and onward again for Ned.

Lamont's rise to such a competitive level has come almost overnight. It's not quite "meteoric," but it ain't bad.

[TheVirginian]

11. The same poll shows Lieberman with a 24-point lead over Lamont

In the General Election if he runs as an Independent. Obviously, people are aware of his potential Independent bid by now, and yet a majority of CT voters still say they'd vote for him. Alan Schlesinger gets only 9%.

[saltpoint]

13. I've read the poll, but should Lamont defeat a 3-term incumbent on

August 8, the incentive for support for Lieberman is drastically reduced.

A new poll will need to be taken then to see how things stand.

Lieberman is on quicksand. He was slaughtering Ned Lamont only 4 months ago. He was leading by 15 in early June, then 6 in late June.

This morning he trails in a narrow, hard-fought race.

His chartlines are going down.

He's in trouble.

[TheVirginian]

14. He's in trouble in the primary, not in the general election.

No matter what happens on August 8th, there will still be a group of Democratic voters who prefer Lieberman, even as an Independent. And Lieberman will wipe the floor with Lamont when it comes to Independents and Republican voters.

[saltpoint]

16. Possibly. Also possibly not.

As I say, the trendlines do not suggest an easy road for Lieberman.

His current numbers may not hold through Labor Day.

I believe he is facing a very strong challenge. If he loses to Lamont on August 8 the incentive for his supporters to vote for him is reduced. Lamont is the story here. His trendlines are up. Lieberman's are down.

There's a reason for that.

[TheVirginian]

17. Treadlines among whom?

Among Democrats, sure its on the decline. But among Independents and Republicans, it has stayed steady, if not increased. And since the majority of voters in CT are non-Democrats (49% Independent, 20% Republican), Lieberman's overall numbers are trending up. There's simply no easy way to erase a 24-point gap in a general election, especially when Lamont's base is the left-wing of the Democratic Party.

[saltpoint]

18. The argument isn't that it's easy. The argument is that Lieberman

no longer enjoys the support he had only 6 months ago.

It's gone.

What's left is threatened.

Connecticut is a blue state. Lieberman as an independent runs strong in this morning's poll. The trend is not for his re-election, but against it.

In this morning's ABC The Note, is this one interesting passage:

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The wisest advice I ever got about polls came in 1992 from Democratic consultant Ken Smukler.

"It's not where the numbers ARE," he said, "it's where they're going."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2006/07/no_lieb_for_thi.html

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A case could have been made only a few months ago that Ned Lamont faces a dramatically steep climb against Lieberman in Connecticut. Over the last several weeks Lieberan's lead has dissolved. This morning's it's gone. He's neck-and-neck or maybe slightly behind.

Lieberman's numbers are falling.

If Ned Lamont defeats Lieberman in the Primary, the headlines will be about Lamont's rise and Lieberman's fall. Then, Holy Joe plays his SECOND raffle ticket and runs as a pouty, self-absorbed Independent, and I don't think he has a very good chance at all.

The money and the energy is going to flow into Lamont's campaign if he wins that primary, big-time.

I believe you are watching the most meteoric rise of a new Senate star in a long, long time.

[calico1]

19. I think this is the point many Lieberman

supporters miss. They are thinkiing that post primary (if Lamont wins) all things remain equal for Lieberman as far as the campaign goes. But the fact is he will no longer be the Democratic candidate. He will be an outsider because the party (and the money) will fall behind Lamont. And a poll today is not really indicative of what will happen in Nov. We really have to wait for the primay results before predicting things using only todays numbers. Everything changes dramatically with a Lamont win.

[saltpoint]

20. I believe you're right. Lamont's arrow is still on the ascent.

Lieberman is staggering around, issuing statements within the last hour that he "will not run as a Republican."

If Ned Lamont wins on August 8th, Lieberman is done for.

[wtmusic]

2. Sorry Joe, folks are starting to realize that civil war can be a bad thing

people tend to die at an alarming rate.

[saltpoint]

3. These two haven't always been the best of buds.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/09/03/clinton.lewinsky/



Sen. Lieberman Says Clinton's Behavior 'Immoral'


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Sept. 3) -- In a significant break with his president, Democratic Sen. Joseph Lieberman took to the Senate floor Thursday to condemn President Bill Clinton's marital infidelity as immoral, disgraceful and damaging to the country.

Lieberman of Connecticut said he was angered and disappointed in Clinton's behavior, and what he called Clinton's "premeditated" deception.

Lieberman said Clinton "apparently had extramarital relations with an employee half his age and did so in the workplace in the vicinity of the Oval Office. Such behavior is not just inappropriate. It is immoral."


Said Lieberman: "I was disappointed because the president of the United States had just confessed to engaging in an extramarital affair with a young woman in his employ and to willfully deceiving the nation about his conduct."

"I was personally angry because President Clinton had, by his disgraceful behavior, jeopardized his administration's historic record of accomplishment, much of which grew out of the principles and programs that he and I and many others had worked on together in the new Democratic movement," Lieberman said.

Lieberman, a longtime Clinton friend, stopped short of suggesting censure, impeachment or resignation, saying that was premature before Congress receives a report from Independent Counsel Ken Starr.

The White House issued a statement later in the day, saying Clinton respects Lieberman and would review his comments with the same care that Lieberman delivered them.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

6. I Have More Problem With His Support Of King george Than Criticism Of Bill

[saltpoint]

7. Agreed, but the odd bedfellows equation kicks in here a little.

Bush is an abject failure and a Republican. Lieberman's cozy relationship with him is disturbing and irritating and the source of (I'm guessing) quite a bit of the discontent some CT Dems feel with him. Not to mention some of the rest of us in other states.

Back when Joe condemned Bill Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky as "immoral," he was even then undermining the Demcoratic Party.

It seems to be a pattern with Holy Joe to subvert the party's position while grandstanding to make himself look good.

[calico1]

4. The main reason why many CT Democrats

have turned against Lieberman is his out of touch support for the Iraq war. So now if Clinton comes to support Lieberman's position, that's supposed to change lots of minds? Let him come and support the war. And I personally don't think that Clinton coming to CT and giving us a scolding about it being wrong to "challenge one of our own" is going to go over too well.

[CTyankee]

9. I'm so disappointed. I love Bill Clinton but he is wrong on this.

I'm glad Hillary said what she did.

[saltpoint]

10. I agree -- Bill's calling this one wrong.

[GreenTea]

8. Time for an extra big push for LAMONT! Does Clinton believe

that Lieberman deserves a lifetime appointment by Dem's? Suppose there's a better democrat (as there is with Lamont) a more FDR LIBERAL democrat, are Dem's suppose to just keep electing a conservative republican ass kissers like Lieberman?

All these politicians treat us like assholes with no brains...and were suppose to follow that narrow DLC conservative agenda?

NOT A CHANCE!!!

[windbreeze]

12. I just have to ask

does C have early onset altzheimer's or what??? He WAS pres...so has he forgotten already how a democracy is supposed to work...no one appointed L to that position for the rest of his damned life...IF the people who pay his wages, are unhappy with him, then they HAVE THE RIGHT to replace him...they are the ONLY ONES who have that right...and they have EVERY RIGHT to find someone to oppose him, if and when they begin to feel that he's forgotten that his job, his only job, is representing THEIR BEST INTERESTS...
Crap, sounds like Clinton is hanging around poppy * too much...his thinking Democrats are wrong to challenge one of their own sounds like something that bunch would say..
windbreeze

[saltpoint]

15. I think he's still sharp as can be, but his political loyalties here

are questionable.

Lieberman stood on the floor of the U.S. Senate and called him "immoral."

An early instance of Holy Joe grandstanding against Democrats and serving the Republican ploy to drive a Democratic president from office on a morals charge.

Henry Sorry-Ass Hyde pressed this until he nearly exploded, even though GOP Senators told him to shove it. He pressed on anyway, and the Senate voted to excuse Bill Clinton.

No thanks to Joe Lieberman.