I don't know enough about Lieberman.

[omenapoint]

Other than being an Iraq Hawk, are there any other issues with him? What are other objections to his stands and policies?

[Warpy]

1. Here's all you need to know

about his voting record. Check out "Issue Positions" for how various groups rate him: http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=S0141103

[Kagemusha]

2. He's a Bush hawk because Bush is the enemy of Israel's enemies.

And that's way too far for Democrats who are actually, you know, trying to win elections against Republicans rather than defend and embrace them.

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3. A picture is worth a thousand words

Here are 2,000 -

[saltpoint]

4. He is perceived, I believe correctly, as a man of fluid loyalties.

He attacked Bill Clinton over the Lewinsky affair.

He attacked Hollywood for subverting the nation's morals.

He cozies up with Dubya just about any time he wants, but especially regarding Iraq.

He doesn't play with the team and readily attaches himself to the opposite position our party is taking.

Lamont, his opponent in the primary, suggests a much deeper shade of blue, and many folks on the progressive blogs back him over Joe.

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[saltpoint]

10. Ah. A Lieberman loyalist. How very coy of you. Your post is an ambush.

You need none of those questions explained.

Enjoy the decline of a once-popular Senator.

His ass is cooked.

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[saltpoint]

12. You aren't looking for anything. You're pushing an agenda.

Good luck with Holy Joe in that August 8th primary.

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[saltpoint]

14. You'll find some if you look.

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[saltpoint]

17. You seem avidly up-to-date as it is.

Have a nice day.

[Zodiak]

25. Most people do not do their homework

and could not tell you ANY Senator's voting record off the cuff.

I, however, score Senator votes and am intimately familiar with Leiberman's voting record. Look downthread for the votes in the 109th Congress that I, at least, do not support.

[ihelpu2see]

27. Joe also supported the last two Supreme Court Noms. with out question

and the disastrous energy bill and Cheney's energy "Task force" in 2000..... There is not much he has done for CT.... Except rally to try to keep the Sub Base, But then again he is a hawk

[Arugula Latte]

5. Lieberman rarely misses an opportunity to undermine his party.

He is a turncoat, more loyal to the Bushes than to people with a D by their names. His independent bid is just the latest example. He makes me sick.

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[calico1]

7. Read the thread again! n/t

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[jonnyblitz]

16. the reasons have been posted on this site over and over

again. all you have to do is research. there are only bazillions of posts daily with links to writeups in blogs and news articles. it is obvious to most here what you are trying to do and we aren't buying it. it's typical lieberman supporter behavior. sneaky and underhanded while feigning "who, me?" innocence. you aren't the first one to pull this stunt.

[Zodiak]

26. I posted them on this thread

no response. I have a feeling we are dealing with a selective reader.

[skipos]

18. Check out how he hedged his bets in 2000

I don't have a link, maybe someone else does?

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20. yup. The handful of Lieberman supporters here

justify Joe's indy run as "giving people in CT the choice." In actuality, Joe would have been perfectly comfortable giving the people of CT a Republican senator, even though they would have no choice in the matter.

Joe is only concerned with self-preservation, at levels above and beyond your usual politician. There is no reason for any Democrat to support him.

[question everything]

23. And it was a good hedge

Had he gave up his seat, the CT governor would have appointed a Republican and we would have lost the majority that we held for one year, with the help of Jeffords.

Except for Edwards, no one gives up his/her seat until the new office is secure in mind. But the orthodox here hate Lieberman and will find use whatever they can to attack him.

This place, unfortunately, has becoming the mirror image of freeperville.

If you are saying one nice thing about Lieberman, or Israel, or H. Clinton, or even Bush you will be crucified. No, not if you say one nice thing. If you do not criticize them, if you, as you've seen, just trying to question the orthodoxy here, you will be flamed.

And this is why we will lost the elections.

All the other side needs is to throw a stone and pick any thread and it will scare the hell out of regular voters.

[calico1]

28. No. He should have given up his seat.

There were a number of Democrats who could have run for it. Most likely it would have been the very popular Atty. Gen. Richard Blumenthal who would have easily defeated loser Giordano who didn't even have the support of the then Gov. This would have meant a sure thing for the Senate seat rather than it being dependent on Bush "winning" the election in order for CT to keep it. It was a totally selfish thing to do. He should not have put the state or the party in that position.

[Jane Austin]

21. Two Words:

Alito. Cloture.

[Zhade]

22. Hoe about "freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom from religion"?

He apparently believes that, since he said it.

Or his support for taking public school money for private school vouchers?

Or his view that rape victims should go to hospitals other than Catholic ones, because "it's just a short ride" to gain emergency contraception?

Or his honorary co-chairmanship on the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI), a pressure group formed with the likes of Richard Perle, Newt Gingrich, Bruce "PNAC" Jackson, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, John McCain, Danielle Pletka, James Woolsey?

The list goes on. If you're NOT pushing an agenda, you'll find plenty. Just go back a page or two in this forum.

[jonnyblitz]

29. I believe Clinton (Bill) said that also

a most obnoxious thing to say.

[Zodiak]

24. Here is his record of bad votes from the 109th Congress

1. He voted for Condi
2. He voted for Gonzales
3. He voted to take class action lawsuit rights away
4. He voted for Negroponte
5. He voted for the Cheney Energy Bill
6. He voted for CAFTA
7. He did not stand up for voting rights in Ohio
8. He voted for cloture on Alito
8. He voted to extend the Patriot Act
9. He voted for the US-Oman free trade agreement
10. He voted for Roberts

He missed three important votes, as well.

This is his record for the last two years. Notice that the Iraq war isn't even on my list? So much for this being about just one issue.