Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Over 750 signing statements;more than all Presidents in history combined

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:33 PM
Original message
Over 750 signing statements;more than all Presidents in history combined
The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060731/edwards

Lawyers Challenge Bush
Mickey Edwards

For millions of Americans, liberal and conservative, the battles over Bush Administration policies, from the war in Iraq to the shape of the federal tax code, revolve around questions of political ideology or partisan preferences. For many others, the central issue is not the Administration's policies but its competence. For the American Bar Association, and for some other organizations as well, including the Washington-based Constitution Project, the matter is much simpler: It's a question of legality.

It was this concern--whether or not the President of the United States was involved in a systematic attempt to evade the law--that prompted both the ABA and the Constitution Project to appoint special bipartisan task forces (I'm a member of both) to look into the extraordinary ways in which the President has turned to the use of presidential signing statements not only to signal his disagreement with Congressional actions but to make clear his intent to disregard them.

<<snip>>

But there are at least two causes for concern about the way George W. Bush has used this presidential tool. One is the unprecedented frequency with which he has issued such statements; in less than six years he has issued more signing statements (over 750 by some estimates) than all other Presidents in history combined. This is a President who routinely challenges the decisions even of a Congress dominated by his own party.

But more worrisome is the way he uses such statements. Observers have noted with some surprise that a President who often seems preternaturally combative has nonetheless acquiesced routinely to a Congress with which he often clearly disagrees. This perception of a strangely compliant President was fed by the seemingly inexplicable fact that Bush had not issued a single veto in all the years of his presidency. It turns out that in this particular case, conspiracy theorists may have a point: The President had chosen not to veto legislation with which he disagreed--thus giving Congress a chance to override his veto--but simply to assert his right to ignore the law, whether a domestic issue or a prohibition against torturing prisoners of war. Coupled with his insistence on a "unitary executive"--the idea that Congress cannot, by law, tell an executive branch agency what it may or may not do--Bush's signing statements amount to more than an expression of opinion designed to influence the courts; they are a de facto instruction to federal agencies to disregard Congressional mandate.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hell the Cowboy thinks he is above the Law
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. So far, he has been n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:41 PM
Response to Original message
3. supreme court challenge is the WORST thing to do since it is
the george w bush get out jail free card. the court might disapprove signing statements but do not count on it.

taking back congress is the better bet, and the white house the best bet.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
spend the night with howard dean
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. taking back congress and the white house...
is our only hope to get off this destructive path we are on. The court put him in office and it won't be long 'till he has that filled with cronies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:44 PM
Response to Original message
4. Oh, he's evaded the law
He thinks he's above the law - "just a piece of paper" and all that. He has also apparently done everything he can to block any effort to expose the truth about his anti-American activities.

It actually makes you wonder what's been going on for the past five and a half years. We may never know.
Ringo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:48 PM
Response to Original message
5. Yes. This is the "silent" move from the Bush Administration at
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 09:49 PM by pinto
consolidating Executive power

I mean no allusion to some smokey Bushco conspiracy. In fact, they make no bones about it when asked. Signing statements just don't get much press, all things being equal - not flashy enough, or divisive enough, to make the news - and the Administration has relied on this.

Additionally, under the guise of National Security, the Commander-in-Chief argument has so far been successful in fending off much political oversight of signing statements.

But I personally feel they are a broad assault on established checks and balances in the Federal system.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
7. So...if there's a margin on the page...
he thinks he gets to fill it in?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. probably blank pages...
and somebody fills it for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 11:58 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC