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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:50 AM
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Joementum? He can't be liking THIS front page!
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:54 AM
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1. Awesome!
K and R
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:58 AM
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2. Another K & R
This is too good to be true!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:58 AM
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3. You're silly.
Don't you know that those numbers reflect only the opinions of the far left loonies? And besides, the overwhelming majority of CT Independents, Republicans and normal Democrats adore and worship Lieberman and he is going to wipe the floor with Ned Lamont!

:sarcasm:

(just thought I'd save someone the trouble) :rofl:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:04 AM
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4. Make sure you read the article!
It's pretty funny...it says Joe's campaign didn't even challenge the Quinnipaic poll results, meaning they likely matched his own internal numbers. They just said "we know we have a lot of work to do," or something like that. Joe knows he's toast, that's why he's pulling this stupid Independent run. Ironically, it is that very move which is said to have been the impetus for this massive swing in the polls. The article has lots of other encouraging tidbits in it!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:12 AM
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7. I did! And I expect the poll numbers to get
even worse for him once he pathetically appears with Clinton. That reeks desperation. The article reinforces what I stated here on another thread. Clintons' appearance is to try and drag people to the polls that were not intending to do so, not to try and sway Lamont voters, because that ain't gonna happen. What is happening is Lieberman was so sure of his grip on the seat and so clueless(because he is never here) that he thought he would just sail right into office again with no more effort than a few ads here and there. He so took us for granted! I think he is still in shock about Lamont's success so far. And no doubt still trying to figure out how these stupid, ungrateful little CT scumbags could have such gall as to dare want to challenge him! :rofl:
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fat dad Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:38 AM
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30. Clinton disappoints me
How far to the middle, and past, is he willing to go to drum up support for Hillary?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:34 AM
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58. I found that thoroughly disgusting myself
Bill Clinton is no longer our friend. He is Beautiful Mind's adopted son.




Cher
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:23 AM
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67. To Be Rather Unkind
He is prostituting himself.

Where's the Principle, Man?

Maybe the 22nd Amendment was a really good thing, after all. It certainly is now.

932 Days and Counting. Tick, tock, tick, tock...
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:53 PM
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82. Clinton and Boxer
I almost understand B. Clinton's campaigning for Lieberman because Hillary and Lieberman get their bib bucks from the same places, but Barbara BOXER???? Give me a break!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:54 PM
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91. Boxer!
Damn, she was who I wanted for President in '08. She was the only Senator to contest the 2004 theft, and has done the right thing pretty consistently. What is she thinking?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:26 AM
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12. ...
:hi:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:29 AM
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13. Hey!
I forgot where you said you were voting. Montville? I have to go to the Julia P. Long School on Rt. 12. :hi:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:43 AM
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16. yep, at the firestation.
the way these towns are set up is strange around here. I can't tell whether I am in Uncasville or Montville half the time. I live like 5 houses down off of Rt.32 in Uncasville. Norwich is like 4 or 5 streets over. :shrug:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:49 AM
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18. I know. Confuses the hell out of me.
My road is very confusing to visitors. I live in Gales Ferry but the road I live on goes into Groton. Same road. The Groton side is "Gales Ferry Road" but its Groton. :silly:

I have a GPS thingie on order so that should help.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:08 AM
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49. LMAO! Oh criminy.
Good one!

GO NED!!

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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:08 AM
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62. I was wondering if anybody would notice that.
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 11:09 AM by jonnyblitz
:P
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:37 PM
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109. Hey, I like that!
Gives me all sorts of warm fuzzy feelings!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:21 PM
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134. LOL!
Great one, Jonny! May you good CT folk kick Holy Joe's ass back to the funny farm, where he belongs. Or even to Dimson's Crawford Ranch, he'd be even more comfortable there.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:34 PM
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131. You "far left" loonies are always so entertaining!
:sarcasm:

And we DO know whom you are speaking of...!
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:04 AM
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5. It was wicked fun....
I was about 8 feet to the right of that photo :) We've got video to post tonight of him playing! They played some upbeat stuff, and Ned sang a couple verses of "Imagine"... it was awesome. :bounce:
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:04 AM
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6. Soon Joementum will simply be a Joememory. n/t
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:13 AM
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8. But me likes it!
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:26 AM
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11. Welcome to DU!
The more you say the more fun you have!
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:15 AM
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9. Best line...
"a majority of likely Democratic voters said they are ready to jettison Lieberman after 18 years in the Senate"

Which means that if he loses the Dem primary they aren't going to vote for him as an independent, either. Most of the Dems and a small minority the Repubs will vote for Lamont, the rest being a split for the Repub vote between Joe and Whoever.

Goodbye Joe and don't let the door hit your sorry ass on the way out.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:24 AM
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10. Joe's interview yesterday in CT paper: opponents "distorted" on Iraq
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 08:33 AM by wordpix2
and "last 4 months have been the worst" period in Iraq. :eyes:

How about the last 3 years, Joe? Where ya been? :(

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16946044&BRD=2303&PAG=461&dept_id=478976&rfi=6

Going Into August Primary, Lieberman True to Himself

By: Scott Benjamin 07/20/2006

Litchfield County Times

NEW MILFORD-U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-New Haven), who is running in a high-profile race for the Democratic nomination, said Monday that "probably the most significant failure of American leadership of the last 30 years" has been the nation's continued reliance on foreign oil.

The senator, who is being challenged by Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont in the Aug. 8 Democratic primary, said that Connecticut could play a major role in the United States' achieving energy independence because it already is a recognized leader in the fuel cell industry.

During an interview with The Litchfield County Times and Housatonic Publications, Mr. Lieberman noted that the state employs "one third" of the workers in fuel cell technology and that "25 years from now that industry will probably be the largest employer in the state."

snip:

Regarding Iraq, the senator said the "last four months have been the worst" period since Mr. Bush declared a military victory in May 2003.

Mr. Lieberman said that "Sunni and Al-Qaeda terrorists have tried to stimulate sectarian violence," which has led to many deaths.
The senator said that opponents have "distorted" his speech of last December on the status of American military operations in Iraq by focusing on his call on Democrats to support Mr. Bush without citing an earlier comment that Republicans "are making the way too partisan and that they need to bring Democrats in and create national unity."

Mr. Lieberman said that he was hoping that there could be the same bi-partisanship as existed between Democratic President Harry Truman and the Republican majority in the U.S. Senate following World War II. "We don't have any of that cooperation now," the senator said.


snip:
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:59 AM
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19. No fair! Why should Joe have to pay for the last 4 months? Just you wait!
Next week, the cake and flowers will materialize, and Joe will be vindicated! Just you wait!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:11 AM
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20. What about his speech in June on the Senate floor
where on REPUBLICAN time he first curtly rejected the Kerry/Feingold amendment as " The Kerry-Feingold amendment directs that all American troops be withdrawn from Iraq by the middle of next year, regardless of the intervening events." (which is not what Kerry or Feingold says and ignores the entire plan the 2 men put together.) As to distotion, this is how he described the war in Iraq and the Levin amendment.

" But then the amendment goes on to direct the beginning of withdrawal of American forces by the end of this year regardless of whether that work is done or those militias are disarmed.

That is where I respectfully believe it errs.

In doing so, I feel that this amendment would just underline the message the Iraqi leadership has clearly already received, accepted, and shares; that America's military commitment to Iraq is not open-ended and unconditional. I fear that it would also send another message to our terrorist enemies and to the sectarian militias in Iraq that America is not prepared to see this fight through until the Iraqis themselves can take over. That will actually encourage the terrorists to accelerate their cruel and inhumane attacks, and it will unsettle the sectarian groups to hunker down and rearm their militias to strengthen themselves for the civil war that they feel will follow a premature American retreat. And that might well create conditions that none of us want, which is to say chaos and civil war in Iraq , regional war in the Middle East, and the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 being able to claim victory in Iraq and going on, emboldened, to attack us again here at home and to bring their terrorism to more Arab countries in the Middle East.

That is why I said the war in Iraq , however one thinks we got there, is now a war of necessity, a war we must help the people of Iraq to win or the security of we, the people of America, our children and grandchildren will be gravely endangered.

Section 2 on page 4 of the amendment which the Senator from Michigan introduced says:


The current open-ended commitment of United States forces in Iraq is unsustainable.


As I have said, our commitment is not and should not be open-ended. It is conditional on the Iraqis working hard to move themselves forward together on the path to self-government and self-defense and, in fact, as the amendment states, they are doing. And this conditional commitment of ours to them is surely militarily sustainable and must be honored.

The failure to do so I believe would have terrible consequences for our credibility in the world and our success in the long conflict ahead against the radical Islamist terrorists who declared war against us and much of the rest of the world during the 1990s and carried out a brutal act of war against our people on September 11, 2001.

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Beowulf Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:17 AM
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52. bi-partisanship?
"Mr. Lieberman said that he was hoping that there could be the same bi-partisanship as existed between Democratic President Harry Truman and the Republican majority in the U.S. Senate following World War II. "We don't have any of that cooperation now," the senator said."

I thought Truman ran against that congress as a "do-nothing" congress in 1948.
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:03 AM
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60. Burns My Butt
When any of these a**holes on either side of the aisle use Harry Truman's name. He would have nothing but contempt for these politicians.

Clinton, too, just makes me shake my head. Again.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:24 PM
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135. Yes, Truman certainly did, and he
took a helluva lot of flack from the pukes, too, but he still stood firm. He was totally, thoroughly disgusted with that Congress, rightfully so, and very aptly named them the "do-nothing" congress. He'd be even more disgusted with this Congress, since they're even worse.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:31 AM
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57. That's because the Republlicans play murderball
If anything, the Democrats don't fight back hard enough. And a lot of the time when they do the "mainstream" media is silent.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:19 AM
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117. Murderball is right!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:38 PM
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132. or they IMMEDIATLY and LOUDLY demand an apology!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:00 AM
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59. "last 30 years" -- make that 26 years
    Lieberman ... said Monday that "probably the most significant failure of American leadership of the last 30 years" has been the nation's continued reliance on foreign oil.

Jimmy Carter tried getting us off foreign oil, and was making progress, but we turned away from him. It's been the Republican/corporatist elements of leadership -- and a lazy, spoiled, ignorant populace -- that have brought us to this point.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:05 AM
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61. Sunni attacks *are* sectarian violence, Joe. Please get a clue.
    Mr. Lieberman said that "Sunni and Al-Qaeda terrorists have tried to stimulate sectarian violence," which has led to many deaths.

Sunni attacks *are* sectarian violence Joementum. Quit trying to fiddle with the perception and numbers.

Everyone with an unbiased working brain knew that sectarian violence, a la Yugoslavia, would result from an abrupt removal of Saddam. Did ya think the Sunnis would quietly accept their lesser role in the country? Did you think the Shia and Kurds would set a world first and immediately forgive past wrongs?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:26 PM
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136. NOmentum just has a lot
of trouble telling all them there A-rabs apart, since they all seem the same to him , doncha know!
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:32 AM
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14. King Cake rock!
:7
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:35 AM
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15. that's the sunny face of optimism and hope
that's gonna defeat Joe.. and the republicans as well
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:44 AM
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17. Ned's looking way cool in that photograph! ..eom..
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:16 AM
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21. Not getting it, not getting it, not GETTING it....
The article spends lots of time in wide-eyed musing about how support for Lamont is based on one thing-- opposition to the Iraq occupation.

Not GETTING it....

Opposition to Lieberman, they reiterate, appears to be based entirely on his position on the Iraq occupation.

NOT GETTING IT!!!

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.....

Considering the coverage of how much hay the Lamont campaign has been making out of The Smooch photo, it's simply amazing that the Courant hasn't been able to figure out how much of the revulsion against Lieberman has been based, not on "one issue," but on the perception among a large number of CT Democrats that there is NO difference between re-electing Lieberman and electing a GOPpie and, let's face it, the GOPpies are now firmly fingered for getting us into a shitbarrel much, MUCH deeper than just the Iraq occupation. The economy that makes the super-rich richer, while everyone else loses ground, the deteriorating environment that's slid over the edge into rapid-pace global warming and environmental collapse, the foreign policy that has emboldened creepy regimes like North Korea and Iran... cripes, the list is ENDLESS. And all thanks to the GOPpies.

And....

...listen carefully, Courant editors....

...to the Democratic voters of CT, Lieberman is indistinguishable from a GOPpie!!!

Get it??

HUH???

GET IT????

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh....

impatiently,
Bright
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:20 AM
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:26 AM
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23. WTF are you doing here?
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 10:10 AM by SlipperySlope
Conservative God?
Backing Lieberman?

WTF?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:29 PM
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137. What'd he say, what'd he say?
Aw, geez, I always seem to miss the fun of seeing and smacking down the trolls. Was this a repuke Liebertroll? They're so cute when they're stirred up, lol.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:30 AM
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27. That's funny because I consider myself
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 09:31 AM by calico1
a Moderate on a number of issues and I know 3 Republicans personally that have told me they will vote for Lamont over Lieberman. Where in CT might you live?

Oh and by the way I hope you are a Conservative DEMOCRAT and not a Republican.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:38 AM
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31. cool, they are tombstoning Liebertrolls!!
:thumbsup:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:42 AM
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34. Good!
There have been an number of them popping up lately!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:45 AM
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37. For the record, being pro-Lieberman does NOT get one tombstoned...
this poster got shitcanned for a different post -- one that was quite, shall we say, freeper-esque.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:47 AM
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38. I figured that much. thanks. n/t
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:54 AM
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41. I figured that.. I was being intentionally vague
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 09:56 AM by jonnyblitz
just to be an ass. my emotions took over. I apologize. :( :hi:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:57 AM
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43. I figured you were joking. Just wanted to state something, though...
in case people might take you seriously. :hi:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:20 AM
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53. implying lieberman supporters are trolls is assholish...
I think you are being most kind to me, considering. I know better. :P
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:03 AM
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46. I think he was on a day-pass from Freeperland.
Too bad his trip got cut short. Hehe.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:48 AM
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39. I think he lives in Crawford "Connecticut"
:eyes:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:50 AM
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40. I think he would need a GPS
to get around CT. He never comes here.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:41 AM
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33. .
:rofl:

Back under the bridge with you!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:30 PM
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138. And say hi to the Big Billy Goat Gruff
for us! :rofl: :rofl:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:45 AM
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36. Is morale really that bad back at the Joementum campaign?
So bad that they had to send you here to defend him? Your post is pure comedy. I can't agree that Lamont has "zero appeal to any Republican." After all, he IS a multi-millionaire businessman. He's probably got some appeal to some Republicans. But who cares? This is a democratic primary, and the only republican challenger is about to be kicked out on his ass for being a gambling crook. Mark my words...there are virtually no lawn signs anywhere I've seen supporting Lieberman, and Lamont signs are EVERYWHERE. And then these polls numbers. The only way I can see Joe winning the general election is if the republicans help him with some of their Diebold magic.

Get a clue, buddy. You're as out of touch with the reality of the situation as Joe is.

Oh...welcome to DU.
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:12 AM
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65. That Old Diebold Magic
No kidding.

Can't wait until President Kennedy and Attorney General Spitzer roll back the case limitations and put 'em all in prison.

Glad to hear about the Lamont support. We here in NH are just relishing the thought of Lieberman going down. We have nothing but contempt for him.

It would take a Dieblod Miracle to save Katherine Harris by the way. Bye, bye, Wicked Witch of the South! Tee hee!
'Former staffers complained that Harris is difficult to work for...she often rejects the advice of her senior staff, surprising them with statements they must later scramble to explain
...
Former campaign manager Jamie Miller said Harris will be especially hard-pressed to find anyone from Florida willing to take the job.

"It's a nuclear wasteland in there," said Miller. "Anyone who goes in is going to be tainted."'
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:43 AM
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75. No Diebold machines in CT.
We still have to pull levers.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #75
79. Yes, but just barely. Thank God for an SOS with some cajones.
Our e-voting machines were on order. I'm an Asst. Registrar of Voters, and they had one as a sample, I think, dreading trainging all the 90yo volunteers on how to use them. Many of them still haven't figured out those new-fangled microwave ovens. But at the last minute, after all the repeated news stories about how screwed up Diebold was, and some apparent lying to the SOS about the hackability of the machines, CT cancelled their entire order.

I started as a "tender" of those lever machines. They are incredible in both their simplicity and their redundancy. Three separate counters on three seperate parts of the machine. Every fifteen minutes we had to check the counters against the number of people who've come it to vote. If they were off by one number (so we're told...never had it happen) the machine would have to be shut down and a report filed, or some such. The votes are tallied on a big piano-roll type paper, and exactly at the close of the polls, each machine was tallied again and tamper-proof locks put on everything.

E-voting machines? Absolutely NO WAY to check what is happening inside that machine. It is sinful that even one of them was allowed to be put into use.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:33 PM
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81. Thanks for that information. I am glad that
the Sec. of State listened to people who knew more than she did and did not go ahead and order them. I have read some posts here from people who say that you can still cheat with lever machines. What do you think? Also, how old are our machines? Is it true that as they break down they can't be fixed because they are so old no parts are available anymore?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:32 PM
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84. I suppose there would be a way to cheat with any machine, but...
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 01:34 PM by Atman
I really don't know how you could cheat a lever machine, except in an oddly similar way they do it with DRE's...you'd have to have in insider set the internal mechanical levers inside the machine to punch a different candidate than the one the lever is pointed to. But then, every vote on that machine would be for a particular candidate, and that would be so glaring it would be caught immediately. Besides, they're like pressing the nuke button...two seperate keys required to unlock the access doors to the mechanics, and they both must be inserted at the same time.

Plus, as I said, the redundant mechanical counters -- which tenders must unlock for each and every voter entering the booth -- combined with the every-fifteen-minute cross-checking against the number of people who came in to vote, would seem to make them virtually inpenetrable. I think that is why in the old days the cheating required registering dead people and such; because each name must be crossed off the rolls as that voters enters the line to vote, and there is no way to hide programs or hacks inside.

Our town has two mechanics for the machines, and they are on call, obviously, all day on election day. If a machine experiences any sort of problem, it gets partially locked down and the mechanic is called. If the problem cannot be fixed on site, you completely lock the machine, roll it away and bring in a back up, which then must be inspected and certified by the Registrar with witnesses who also must sign off on its readiness before it can be used. They do sometimes make parts as needed, but more often they cannibalized other unused machines for spare parts.

As I said before, if there is so much as a 1 number discrepency between the counters and the entry logs, the machine must be locked down and paperwork filed. Tell me they were doing anything like that when DRE's were switching votes right in front of people's eyes. Instead of taking them offline, they told the voters not to worry and move along.

I think those old iron maidens are as bulletproof as it's going to get. Which is probably why they were in use for so long.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:38 PM
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85. Hey, thanks again!
I didn't think it would be easy to cheat although some posters have claimed it is. Besides, CT isn't a state the Republicans could target and get away with it. And....as much as I dislike Lieberman I don't think he'd try and steal an election even if he could. Whenever I go to vote it always seems very organized and smooth. I never got the feeling there was any cheating, nor read about it nor heard anyone claim cheating. But I guess since it does happen in other states many people just assume it goes on everywhere.
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #79
83. Absolutely Right
The corruption of the whole process is so transparent it is absurd. Every single one of these things should be taken offline and melted down for scrap.

The equivocation about the "problems" on these machines by politicians and the media is so deeply angering.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:08 AM
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48. put down the paste and enjoy your stay.
I suspect it won't be long.

by the by Lieberman's campaign is about the most pathetic thing I have ever seen.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:28 AM
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56. I know of a couple Republicans who switched to Democrat to vote for Lamont
They donate to Lamont and volunteer for the campaign. They switched registration before the May 8 deadline, so they are eligible to vote in the Dem Primary.

Lamont won't appeal to the Bush-Republicans, but they are a minority. Lowell Weicker has endorsed Ned Lamont and Weicker's former chief of staff is an advisor to Lamont, so the outreach to moderate Republicans will begin after Lamont wins the Democratic Primary.

Most Independents oppose the war in Iraq too, so Lamont's message will resonate with them.

Lamont hasn't concentrated on Independents and moderate Republicans because he has to win the Democratic Primary. If he doesn't win the primary, he's out.

Lieberman is crashing in flames. He's paranoid and acting like a grandfather suffering severe dementia. That behavior will continue if he goes Independent after the primary.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:11 AM
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63. Everything you say is on the money.
Apparently a lot of non CT posters think all CT Republicans are neocons. Not true at all. Lamont is doing the right thing by concentrating on Democrats. He needs to get past the primary. If he does, then he can focus more on Moderates and Independents many of whom as you point out, oppose the war. I don't disagree with those who claim that Lieberman was very popular here at one time. But that was then, this is now. Lieberman has no real personality to begin with (not his fault) but the campaign he is running is one that shows him being increasingly mean, vicious and nasty...something that goes totally against the mild mannered "nice" image he once had. And almost all his ads are attack ads against Lamont. A totally negative campaign in comparison to Lamont's upbeat, positive one. Not good for Lieberman.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:39 PM
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95. Would you introduce the cats already?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:51 PM
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98. Gray cat.....
Tabitha or "Tabby" or just "Tabs." She was found in the street by my father in law when she was around 6 months old. Skinny, hungry and she had stepped on a driveway apparently because she had tar down one leg. She is a fat, happy kitty now. She is 7.

Orange cat...Quincy, aka Quincydoodlebug. He was also rescued off the street by the friend of a coworker. He was estimated to be around 9 months old at the time. Also skinny and scrawny. He was a happy, fun loving, playful and very affectionate cat, though he could piss the other cats off when he chased after them. We lost him about 6 weeks ago. Found him lying dead on the floor one morning. After doing some tests the vet told us he had been born with a heart condition that would not have been able to be picked up during a routine check. And also that there was nothing we could have done as far as looking for signs, etc. The day before he had been his usual self. He was 4. I still miss him very much. Thanks for inquring.:hi:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:08 PM
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101. I'd been noticing Quincy
I'm not a cat person but a non-cat cat came into my life a few years ago and stole my heart. He left on a walkabout 2 weeks ago and unfortunately, we found him on the side of the road, hit by a car, 3 days ago. Korban was his name and he was the most amazing creature. I'm sorry you're Quincy died and I hope he looks up Korban in the afterlife.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:29 PM
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103. Thank you.
I am also sorry for you loss. I'd like to think that Quincy and Korban have met and are having fun together, along with other furkids.:hi:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #56
68. Right. Many Northeast Republicans are not the loony bin Freep variety.
So Lamont does appeal to a good chunk of them.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:26 AM
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24. I finally got my lawn sign last night
Goooo Ned! The only thing I'm worried about is the effect that Bill will have on the race. I wish he'd just butt out.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:26 AM
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25. Joe and *W* are too busy picking out drapes for the WH
Adios, Joe. If we wanted a RW shill we'd have used one of their guys.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:27 AM
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26. "dominant debate performance" by lieberthug. WTF???
Where are they getting that? From joey's PR hacks, no doubt.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:35 AM
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28. O U T S T A N D I N G ! ! !
I love it! Go, Ned!!!

Make Joementum a Joememory! (w/ a tip of the hat to a couple of posts upthread for that!)

TC
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:36 AM
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29. Bill Clinton, you rawk but MYOB.
Stay out of CT's primary. You don't live there. This is up to the voters of CT and no one else. The fact that Lieberman is sucking wind so bad despite his money, incumbency and expert advice ought to tell you something.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #29
72. Like Hillary didn't live in New York?
It seems like the Clintons consider themselves to be locals wherever they want.

Sometimes that is good, sometimes that is bad.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:41 AM
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32. Magic 8-Ball says Lamont will win in November!
he's too darn likeable. more people need to get to know him, that's all. a majority of people don't participate in primary politics, so early polling just follows name recognition.

By the end of october, this race will be a dead heat.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:43 AM
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35. I agree.
Lamont is likeable, Lieberman is geting increasingly mean and bitter.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:59 AM
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45. Lieberman has always been a bit mean and bitter.
But I agree, Lamont has that likeability factor going for him. It's just amazing the sense of entitlement some of these elected officials have. "Will of the people" HELLO!?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:55 AM
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42. From your mouth to God's ear, Rucky! I'm with you.
Joe's time has come...and gone. Now it's Ned's turn.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:58 AM
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44. Just look at the picture of Ned. Can you imagine Joe having FUN like that?
I can see him whining along to some rockin' klezmer, but I think "fun" isn't in Joe's vocabulary. Ned looks like "one of the guys," not a stuff-shirt old coot who feels he's entitled to his office just because he's stuck it out so long.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:11 AM
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50. No. But I can imagine Joe
bitterly complaining about those stupid CT voters. "What is the matter with them? Don't they know who I am?!!! I am Joe Lieberman! How dare anyone challenge me?!!!!" :rofl:
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:27 PM
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102. He was playing "Imagine"
He mentioned that on Colin MacEnroe's radio show today.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:35 AM
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71. Magic 8-Ball

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:05 AM
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47. I hope Lamont reads this and knows how many of us are behind him
that can't vote for him because we live somewhere else.

Clinton won't be able to help Joe out now.
It's too late.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #47
113. Oh, I think he knows.
Lamont is conducting his campaign the old-fashioned way: by driving to every nook and cranny of Connecticut and meeting everyday people, grassroots-style. Good thing for Lamont he lives in the third smallest state in country! B-)
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:37 AM
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118. Yeah , good thing this isn't CA! n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:16 AM
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51. Holy Joe sure picked the wrong bandwagon to jump on
when he cozied up to the most corrupt and destructive administration in US history.

You will be a blip in the history books, Schmoe.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:29 PM
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93. Or jump under, depending on how you look at it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:20 AM
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54. Being a Democrat is very, very good latey...this is the "good news."
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 10:22 AM by autorank
And didn't old DU have something to say about this;) Sure did, lead the charge with admins statement to Sen Schumer.

So here we are, THE PEOPLE are moving, when they get information. It's always that way in this country.

Lamont and CT, thanks for your fine work. The party needs a new level of structural and ideological integrity, like being the Democratic Party.


On edit: Nice one ATMAN, very nice...K&R, strongly.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:23 AM
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55. The look on Ned's face is priceless! eom
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:12 AM
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64. I love the picture. Ned and the guitar player in the bg are very likeable
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #64
76. The group is Bruce John and the Eagleville Band
They're a ton of fun, and Ned was great with them! Video will be posted tonight! :bounce:
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:14 AM
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66. LOL--Bill Clinton to campaign for Lieberman! Take *that*, progressives!
President Clinton, whom Lieberman condemned on the Senate floor for his affair with a White House intern, will try to stop that momentum Monday by campaigning for Lieberman in Waterbury.

Reform?

Ever the dutiful creature of corporate money, Clinton envisions no reform at all of the Democratic Party--just more Liebermania.

If you are fighting for a progressive future for America, these guys aren't your allies any more than are Bush and Cheney.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #66
73. Try telling that to the
"Bill was the best President ever" crowd. Were things better while he was in office? For a majority of people, yes. The "investor society" did well. There was relative peace.

But, ask those who were hurt by The Welfare Reform Act or NAFTA. Ask them how they did.

Every day, as you watch the media fail to inform the public, and aggrandize this administration, remember it was the dereulation of the media under Clinton that led us to this place.

His view was then, and always has been pro-corporate... as is Joe's. And, it is those corporations that must be served. God forbid, the people of CT would rather choose someone who actually supported THEM instead. It is disrespectful. I say everyone should butt out and allow the chips to fall where they may in this election. The people of CT deserve to have a say, and not be called "cooks" and "crazies" when it doesn't agree with those of some elected Democrat or even a former POTUS.

TC
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #73
99. "Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had"-Mike Malloy
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #73
107. Exactly. (nt)
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:19 AM
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122. Like H.Clinton and R. Murdoch
"Stomach turning" as David Sirota was quoted as saying in the NYT. After years of trashing Bill and Hillary in his media outlets, Hillary accepted a Murdoch fundraiser. Barbara Bush calls Bill 'son,' and Bill is the new found friend of Bush, the father. The Clintons have lost their way, to say the least. David Sirota is right, where are the barf bags?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:18 PM
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125. You'll know them by the company they keep!
The Clintons have fully embraced the Dark Side of the Force, and they offer us nothing more than a sugar-coated and more benign version of Junior Bush's policies.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #66
127. Yeah, we're quaking in our boots!
:rofl:

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:33 AM
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69. I don't understand this line from the story:
It follows Lieberman's dominant performance in their only televised debate and a sustained advertising campaign by Lieberman to define the little-known Lamont as an opportunist with one issue - his opposition to the war in Iraq.

What dominant performance? Lieberman whines and attacked and sounded defeated. I guess if you're the corporate media, DLCers always dominate? :shrug:

BTW, when's the primary?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #69
74. I guess that some journalists interpret
vicious, bullying behavior as being "dominant." I think Lieberman came across as a jerk.

The primary is Aug. 8.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #74
78. If only Joe Schmoe had shown a little backbone when he "debated" Cheney
by deferring to Cheney and sucking up to him. :eyes:
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #78
86. The Dizzy Ingenue
Asked to the prom by Al Gore.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #69
77. I don't get that, either.
BTW, the primary is August 8th!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:33 AM
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70. YEEEEAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!
:toast:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:29 PM
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80. Time to give Conservative demmies the boot!
Walking contradiction in terminology.

I guess Lieberman (Loser man?) considers oral foreplay much worse than war. Ah, priorities!
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:51 PM
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87. Like several of us have said, Fox News is waiting in the wings
Joe will be a resident "pundit" representing the "left" LOL.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:47 AM
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121. not so fast
I have heard or read somewhere that if Lieberman runs as an Independent, he has a good chance of winning in a 3-way race because of the weak candidate expected to run on the Republican side, and the Repugs are now looking for a stronger candidate. But of course, Lamont will have the big 'Mo' going into November.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:00 PM
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88. This is the moment Democrats decide that corporations aren't in charge.
This is the moment we decide that the Democrat Party will be run by the people, not corporate special interests. This will be a watershed moment for the nation.
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:16 PM
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89. Looks like this race is headed for a real...
JOEDOWN.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:52 PM
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90. What would they call this?
Lamontum, Lamentum, I'll get back to you.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:57 PM
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92. LOL
funny. :hi:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:24 PM
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94. Joe wants to hear from you. Won't you talk to Joe?
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:43 PM
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97. Please take that picture down?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:21 PM
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126. That's probably how Joe sees himself
Joe is a chicken hawk, he should take off those dog tags.
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TheWarIzaLie Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:42 PM
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96. This will indeed be a great victory for we the people,
if we can remove this corporacrat sellout, however...

You all realize this will likely cost us 1 seat in the Senate though?

Lets hope the other (D) challengers can pick up the slack and we can regain the majority that we desperately need controle of in order to get this FUBAR straightened out.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:21 PM
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100. This is really Awesome!
Ned Lamont can play!

That other headline next to Lamont's says.."bush, Black keep it polite"..I beg to differ! bush slapped Al GreenD, Tx) on the face and made him Grimace!



Gawd, Al Green knows bush stinks to high hell!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:36 PM
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104. Lieberman is about to be rescued by Bill Clinton and the Israel Lobby
They will say that at a time that Israel's very existence is in the balance (by butchering Lebanese civilians and reducing Lebanon's cities to rubble), that it will be reckless to vote against Israel's most staunch defender in the world.

Clinton won't say it, but there will be a campaign to portray Lamont and his supporters as Hezbollah "fellow travelers" and "soft" on terrorism.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:37 PM
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105. !!!
always glad to see you around! :hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #104
106. Lieberman's beyond saving
... and it will probably make things worse for him. No worries in that regard.

The appalling Democratic response to the ME is going to ricochet in an unpleasant way for them.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:35 PM
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108. "Going to ricochet in an unpleasant way for them"
I think so, too.

The indefensible surrender to Bushism will already have dampened many spirits. But the obsequious ME position--particularly now, leading into Fall--will leave many progressives saying, "Why the fuck should I bother?"
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:38 PM
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110. the death and destruction is reminiscent of Katrina
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 11:40 PM by AtomicKitten
except there is nothing natural about this disaster.

Americans know that nobody in our government is doing a goddamn thing to stop it.

Disgraceful.

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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:30 AM
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123. Yes, they're too busy
counting the money they will make sending bunker busting bombs as well as other big bucks weapons to Israel to kill the innocent Lebonese civiilans.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:18 PM
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128. Indeed. Well-said.
NT!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:48 PM
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #112
115. And just what gives you the right to insult a fellow poster like that?
Grow up, for god's sake!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:36 AM
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116. Pro-Israel groups rally support for Lieberman (even if he loses primary)
Pro-Israel groups rally support for Lieberman
By Susan Haigh, AP Political Writer | July 19, 2006


HARTFORD, Conn. --Pro-Israel groups, afraid of losing one of their staunchest supporters in Congress, are pouring money into beleaguered Sen. Joe Lieberman's campaign as he tries to fend off a tougher-than-expected primary challenge.

<snip>

Pro-Israel political action committees have donated to his campaign and have urged their national membership to give generously now and later, if Lieberman is forced to run as an unaffiliated candidate.

"Joe Lieberman, without exception, no conditions ... is the No. 1 pro-Israel advocate and leader in Congress," said Mark Vogel, chairman of the National Action Committee, a pro-Israel political action committee. "There is nobody who does more on behalf of Israel than Joe Lieberman. That is why he is incredibly important to the pro-Israel community."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/07/19/pro_israel_groups_rally_support_for_lieberman/
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:42 AM
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119. This is to be expected... the "anti-war" group supports Lamont.
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 07:42 AM by Totally Committed
When an election becomes this personal (and Joe has made sure it has), factions break out and support one side or another. Joe has been a good and loyal friend to the pro-Israel groups, and has, for better or worse, earned their support. If he had been as loyal to the needs and wishes of the CT voters as he has been to the pro-Iraelis, he wouldn't be in this situation. It was a matter of priorities and now factions have formed on both sides.

It's gonna be a rumble!

TC
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:04 AM
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120. Yes, becase we all know that Israel just wants to kill Lebanese.
If they really wanted to kill Lebanese civillians, they could kill a lot more than a couple hundred. This is like saying the 1,500 Serbian civillians we killed in the Kosovo operation were intentionally killed.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:13 PM
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124. What we are witnessing Israel do in Lebanon is a massacre!
It is an undeniable fact that Israel has killed hundreds of Lebanese, nearly all of them civilians including infants. At his point in time, it doesn't matter what is inside the heads of Israel's military, and whether they "care" or not about what their weapons are doing to the Lebanese, this massacre has to stop!

Israel is butchering the Lebanese people and laying waste to their land as the world watches in horror and with increasing anger, and as the leaders of the so-called "West" have shown why their time in history must past!

Never again can one speak of the crimes against humanity committed by aggressor nations during the 20th Century without also speaking of crimes committed in this century by aggressor countries like the United States of America and Israel.

Beirut 2006 is our Warsaw 1939!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:20 PM
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129. The Israeli government doesn't want to, they just don't CARE.
And it's a stretch to say they're not targeting civilians, when 1) it's the IDF's modus operandi and 2) they hit a CHRISTIAN area of Lebanon where Hezbollah doesn't operate.

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #104
130. Hopefully CT Democrats are smart enough not to fall for it
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:46 PM
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111. K&R, buddy
K&R
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:06 AM
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114. Speaking of Willimantic's Third Thursday Street fest...
there was a lone Lieberman campaign worker wandering the streets, trying to get people's attention. I saw the guy three separate times, and not one person so much as glanced in his direction. Truth be told, I kinda felt sorry for the poor fellow, especially since Lamont's supporters were out there in force. Not to mention that the candidate himself turned up, as well!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:05 AM
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133. great news
:dem:

:woohoo:

:kick:
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