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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:28 PM
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Would terminology have mattered (re: stem cells)?
What if, instead of calling it 'embryonic stem cell research', it was called something else. Like maybe .... I dunno ..... 'blastocystic cellular modification studies' ....... or ....... 'cellular regeneration studies'.

The use of the word 'embryo' is, in my view, what got the ill-informed, science hating, fetus-uber-alles, religiously insane all spittle flecked about this.

And the word was so convenient for our gawd fearing dictator to use for the icing on his one veto cake.

Embryo.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:32 PM
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1. NOPE! It was strictly playing to the base! n/t
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:33 PM
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2. Nah.
If the scientific community called it 'blastocystic cellular modification studies,' they would have made something up like 'fetal harvesting' and gotten the media to go along with calling it that. Remember 'partial birth abortion?'
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 04:00 PM
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7. Absolutely. See:
"Healthy Forests Initiative" and "Estate Tax" for two stellar examples; read George Lakoff for dozens more.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:03 PM
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8. You mean "Death tax," no?
Estate tax was the legit name.

And yeah, Lakoff's outstanding. His stuff on the "Strict Father" model of governing is a must-read.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:03 PM
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9. Oopsie--blonde (and severe jet lag) moment. "Death tax" is indeed
what I meant.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:42 PM
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3. No matter what we or the scientists called it...
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 12:42 PM by Totally Committed
the other side would have made sure there was "embryonic" in their description of it. That was the key word. It says "potential baby" to the uneducated. If all of these were represented sure, viable pregnancies, no one would need invitro treatments more than once. None of these are "babies"on their own, and THAT is the lie that is keeping cures for so much suffering and misery from being found.

TC
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:49 PM
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4. No matter what the scientists called it
the bushites would have used "embryonic" in the description. Actually, I am surprised they don't call it something like "slaughtered baby stem cell research.":eyes:
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:00 PM
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5. this is a winning issue for us
they are opposing research and losing the pr battle.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 04:08 PM
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10. I agree with you, Dave
That's why, right here in our home state, our 'dear' governor is playing to those in favor of it.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:18 PM
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6. No Because BushCo Corp$ Don't Want Cures
They make a killing out of "treating" chronic conditions and they don't want the government investing in curing their profits. So they would always term anything "human life." Human life stops needing protection at birth, to these lunatics.
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