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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:30 PM
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Here's the stunning finding: What is Bill Clinton talking about?
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 03:50 PM by GreenTea
The last elected American President to take office, Bill Clinton, is towing the line, and doing what good old boy democrat’s are suppose to do when requested, (or begged) by someone in their party, in this case Joe Lieberman (DLC).

Clinton saying that “instead of seeking to retire Republicans they were pursuing the nuttiest strategy I ever heard in my life."
http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16945479&BRD=985&PAG=461&dept_id=161556&rfi=6

Well, that’s exactly what a Ned Lamont victory is planning to do. - Send TWO republicans - Joe Lieberman & Alan Schlesinger — into retirement!

:bounce:

July 22, 2006

In Connecticut, Another Poll Shows Lamont Ahead

A new Rasmussen Reports poll shows Ned Lamont (D) beating Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) in the primary, 51% to 41%.

Here's the stunning finding: In the general election, Lieberman and Lamont are tied with 40% with Alan Schlesinger (R) trailing behind with 13%.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/07/22/in_connecticut_another_poll_shows_lamont_ahead.html
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:33 PM
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1. Here's a link to the nutty strategy quote
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 03:34 PM by Kire
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:34 PM
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2. Link!
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:35 PM
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4. I found it too
Edited my post.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:35 PM
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3. yep link please
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:36 PM
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5. mine too thanks
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:40 PM
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6. Again, I see no difference between Lieberman or Schlesinger...
Only in party name!

It's far more dangerous and upsetting to have a republican masquerading as a Democratic senator than to understand and KNOW that the senator is indeed a republican and is running as a republican....

On important issues too many times Lieberman has vote exactly as republican fascist Bush wants, (and was rewarded a kiss & praise from Bush on the national stage) Lieberman has chastised other Democrat's for not doing the same and has been a vocal supporter of Bush policies...How is that any different than what Schlesinger would do...at least people would know Schlesinger is labeled a republican....

I won't for a republican no matter what party that republican is running under.

I've seen Lieberman do this shit too many times. He really thought there could be no consequences for his smug, arrogant actions...What are people going to do, vote for me a democrat (in name only) or vote for the republican...Lieberman thought he had it made, to continue his expected lifetime position in the senate.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:48 PM
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8. Democrat Lamont does have a great platform on Iraq, health care,
the environment, our civil rights, etc., (http://nedlamont.com /) it's ridiculous for any democrat not to recognize that. Lamont is a true democrat. With better idea's and certainly true democratic ideology...

Your correct, Lieberman doesn't have a lock or a deserved lifetime throne, Lieberman had his chance and has shown who he is and what he stands for...Lamont is the far better democratic candidate!
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ChipsAhoy Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:04 PM
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14. Good for you, LaPera
What a factual post. thanks!
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:40 PM
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7. Big Dog = Ole Yeller
and I think it's time to move him out to the barn.
It's 'patronage before patriotism', plain and simple!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:50 PM
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9. Bill's just reminding you that conservatives stick together
He still hasn't realized that conservatives are the PROBLEM and can't be part of the solution.

This is why Lieberman needs to be defeated. We need to tell the party that conservatives have ruined it for far too long. It's time to take back the real party center, the LIBERAL center.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:23 PM
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18. Oh, please the one thing bill isn't is naieve, he knows precisely what the
problem is, but does he give a shit?
Remember, what he did manage to do is lose both houses under his leadership. How? Because he diluted the line between DLC democrats and republicans, shifted the democratic party to the right, and the public could no longer tell the difference between the two. Now we are actively redrawing the line in the sand. This is a long term fix, not a short term solution. We may indeed lose a few races...but the public will begin to understand what the democratic party stands for.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:43 PM
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10. I don't understand this. All Liebermann would have to do is to try
to reconnect with his grassroots. Find out what his people want. He is the incumbent.

He is on a path to self-destruction. Nobody owes him that job. Just ask those that get laid off and outsourced every day. He appears to be a CT party of one.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:34 PM
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11. The nuttiness is pretty obvious...
Six months ago, Connecticut Democrats had a guy with 80% approval ratings at the head of the ticket, and were trying to unseat a Republican governor with 65% approval ratings. Then our lunatic fringe got involved at a national level and jumped in to attack the Democrat.

And the rest of us are supposed to ignore what Bill Clinton says and follow their idiotic lead? Not a chance.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 02:06 AM
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12. However, CT voters will and always vote for Dem senators, so
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 02:13 AM by GreenTea
if Lamont defeats Lieberman, he will pick up many of those same Dem voters in question...I don't believe in status quo...I love Bill Clinton but I also see Lieberman is desperate and pulling out ALL the stops and Clinton the loyal Dem that he is, is endorsing the status quo...I disagree. I believe in Dem FDR liberal ideology (and results). - In which Lieberman has offered neither.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:17 AM
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13. That will be news to Prescott Bush and Lowell Weicker
Not to mention William Purtell.

But don't let facts get in your way.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 12:42 AM
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19. What century are you living in? Try the last twenty years...
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 01:26 AM by GreenTea
Which is eons in politics, many things as well as peoples attitudes change, (sometimes drastically) from year to year....What republican has been elected to the Senate in CT in the last fifteen or more years and I'm talking about EITHER Senate seats? CT voters have changed over the past twenty years and vote ONLY for democratic senators...Now pay attention to contemporary times...not ancient history!!!

That's why the winner of the democratic primary will be the senator for six more years and how many years will that make for Dem senators in CT?

"In the general election, Lieberman and Lamont are tied with 40% with Alan Schlesinger (R) trailing behind with 13%."

When will democrat's in name only, ever be held responsible for their actions? This is the perfect time for an excellent democrat like Lamont can prove to these republican ass kissing democrat's that we are sick of their voting with the republican majority and we are forced to vote for them and Lieberman knows that, (HE'S GOT YOU THINKING THAT WAY) and believes it...Lieberman also knows CT senate race is a cake walk for a Dem, that's why he's so pissed, he believes it's his seat no matter how he votes and kisses Bush's ass, fuck the democrat's...I'll still win reelection, who else are the Dem's going to vote for... a republican? No way, Lieberman knows CT voters, vote for Dems for Senator and now they are going to vote for a Dem Senator again...ONLY HIS NAME IS NED LAMONT!!!
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:22 PM
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15. The "lunatic fringe" seems to be convincing CT voters in droves.
Doesn't that just make you crazy?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:32 PM
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16. He's probably been reading DU...
Where it seems to be more important to remove "undesirable" Democrats than it is to beat Republicans...

I am not talking about CT specifically but generally...


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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:37 PM
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17. Hey! Guess what! We're doing both!
:woohoo:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 01:54 PM
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20. All those people who want to vote for Liberman, just look how fast
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 02:03 PM by LaPera
the asshole Liberman wants to jump out of the Democratic party if he doesn't win. Being a democrat and losing to another democrat doesnt mean shit to Liberman, because he's NOT a democrat, he's NOT for the democratic party, he's in it for himself and is proving that daily!

Who are these people who call themselves democrats and want to vote again for the republican Lieberman? They must be lost, no ideological moderates...How else would one explain that there's a liberal democrat running in Ned Lamont and the democrat candidate will be the senator...and they still want to vote for Lieberman, what's wrong with these wimpy people who say they are democrats? Or are they just stupid?

Not to mention these same moderate don't care they Liberman is a democrat in name only on important issues, when Bush needs a Dem Senator Liberman is there...He is indeed the new Zell Miller only not as crazily vocal.

Fuck Liberman!

Cheers to Lamont!!!
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