Poll: Did Clinton help Lieberman?

[Pale Blue Dot]

Does Former President Bill Clinton’s support of Sen. Joseph Lieberman make you more likely to vote for Lieberman?

Yes 21.8%

No, it makes no difference 56.4%

No, it makes me less likely to vote for Lieberman 21.8%

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-clintonlieberman0725-poll,0,2748268.poll?coll=hc-big-headlines-breaking

Very low # of respondents so far....

[LiberalVoice]

1. No, it makes no difference. nt

[EST]

2. How 'bout that?

6.5%
Yes (16 responses)


21.8%
No, it makes no difference (54 responses)


71.8%
No, it makes me less likely to vote for Lieberman (178 responses)


248 total responses
Results are not scientific

[Pale Blue Dot]

3. Funny how things took a sudden turn for the worse...

:D

[calico1]

5. I think he came off as pathetic and desperate.

And besides it was not a resounding support on Clinton's part. The local news last night stated that Clinton's condition for the endorsement was that if Lieberman loses he will back Lamont. They also showed clips of a press conference Lamont had with two long time Lieberman supporters who are now backing Lamont. One of them said in the press conference that he had run into Lieberman at a restaurant and told him that he was voting for Lamont because Lamont was a better man than he was. Ouch! Here is a commentary by one of them in the Courant:

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/commentary/hc-commentarystolberg0723.artjul23,0,1783559.htmlstory?coll=hc-headlines-commentary

[speedoo]

7. Clinton's conditional support?

"The local news last night stated that Clinton's condition for the endorsement was that if Lieberman loses he will back Lamont."

Wow, if that's true, it is big news. It contradicts LIEberman's position.

Has there been any further comment locally? Is there a direct quote from Clinton or one of his people? Have any of the members of the press asked LIEberman about this?

[calico1]

8. I got my reports mixed up...

It was actually on NBC Nightly News:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

Click on "Lieberman fighting to retain seat" for the report.

This is from the local news:

http://www.nbc30.com/politics/9567996/detail.html

[AtomicKitten]

17. Countdown mentioned it last night.

[IndianaGreen]

22. Even Big Dog is not stupid enought to back Lieberman if he loses

and the second half of the Billary team needs to remain above the fray without offending either the Lamont supporters or Lieberman's.

[Cha]

10. Ah! And he's

Jewish, too! So that get's the anti-semitic accusation outta there where it belongs!

This is great! Thanks for the article, calico!

"Irving Stolberg served two separate terms as speaker of the Connecticut House of Representatives in the 1980s."

Irving Stolberg makes some pertinent points. I hope he gets all his friends and former constituents to vote for Lamont, too!

[IndianaGreen]

24. When your friends tell you that the other candidate is a better man

that must have felt like the mohel's knife to Lieberman.

I hope that Lieberman takes his defeat like a true trooper instead of having a meltdown like Nixon had when he lost against Pat Brown in California.

[saltpoint]

4. Big Dog still has a lot of bounce but Lamont is a sturdy challenger.

The primary is 2 weeks away.

The numbers aren't there right now for Joe, it feels like. The landscape even if he wins looks unwelcoming.

[PATRICK]

6. No, but maybe a little

The exact problems Lieberman has are not well served by a Clinton appearance. In several honorable and hopeless causes the Clintons have nobly backed certain eventual losers. In this Bill is the sympathetic Undertaker, a big shoulder to cry on, a conciliator to show that the losing dignitary is not forlorn and betrayed. he gave advice and consolation to Andrew Cuomo, a former member of his cabinet, in his losing bid for the gubernatorial nomination of NY.

Clinton is mainly doing a service to party unity and showing a loyalty(never reciprocated by Lieberman let it be recalled). Insofar as people do recall how he turned against Clinton for a peccadillo but embraces a murderous incompetent GOP Coup dictator, Clinton could actually cost him votes. But it must be personally soothing to have that REAL candidate standing close by so he can cool himself and hide in the shadow while the tears of dismay and confusion threaten to well up.

And when it is all over and Joe finds himself NOT running an energetic and vengeful third party candidacy, he will wonder how he so smoothly came to exit the stage and whose strong, kindly hand was patting him on the back on the final step. A man he had betrayed, a man who controls the main finances of DLC donors, a man who placed himself under the cross so Joe could make it to primary day.

[Cha]

11. I like your

synopsis post of Clinton "helping" out lieberman. So eloquently written.

I remember the Andrew Cuomo consolation..I so wanted Andrew to win.

[Cha]

9. This little poll says it

makes it 70% less likely to vote for lie-man!

[PATRICK]

12. Another poor judgement call

by Lieberman. I had to think about it a minute but surely his voters must remmeber their guy trashing Clinton in 1998. Whichever view they had of Clinton would cause them to have an unfavorable opinion of Joe leaning on his support now.

I guess it is better to have a friend, any friend, than to merely dig your own grave- alone.

[calico1]

13. Yeah, they showed the clip on the news last night

of him trashing Clinton, and another one of him kissing Bush. To most people this is going to come off as what it is...a pathetic, desperate attempt to get people to vote for him. What a loser.

[Cha]

14. WOW! Real News in the media..

I don't know if my shockometer can take it!

It seems like the media in Connecticut doesn't want losthismementumjoe!

I'm soo glad they made this connection on tv..joe needs to be held accountable for his actions!

[missTheBigDog]

15. I really love the Big Dog....

...but why in the world would he do this, especially after that weisel sold Bill out during the impeachment hearings?

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. Loyalty......however misguided..

The Big Dog is loyal to his friends. I just wish he & Barbara Boxer had not seen fit to jump into the middle of a primary as it may cause hard feelings for the two of them, for a long time to come.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[L. Coyote]

16. There will be no 3rd party run.

That would mess up any chance for the new job, ambassador to Israel, with Gore/Kerry in 2009.

[missTheBigDog]

19. I hope Tarheel_dem is right...

[IndianaGreen]

23. How about ambassador to Lebanon?

I am sure he will get a warm welcome from people that lost their loved ones thanks to those American politicians that opposed a ceasefire.

[dpbrown]

20. 69% Less Likely

Maybe that was part of the plan.

[MannyGoldstein]

21. Yawn. A Republican Backing A Republican.

Wake up people.

Clinton was, basically, a Republican. He pushed traditional Republican values - low-wage policies such as offshoring of jobs (NAFTA, free trade with China, ...) in order to co-opt the votes of the political middle. For example, Clinton was certainly far to the right of Eisenhower, and probably even a bit to the right of Nixon. This pushed the Republican Party to the far, far right in order to differentiate themselves from Clinton. Clinton's game got him elected, but it's resulted in Bush and his band of loony Righties, and so forth.

Lieberman is simply Clinton's disciple.

If we want to move back to the left, we need real Democrats.

[Zhade]

25. Well, I'd say neoliberal myself.

Socially liberal, fiscally conservative, pro-corporate to the point of fucking over workers, etc.

Not a fascist like the majority of the Republican party, but no friend to the little guy (unless you happened to be a member of the investment class), nonviolent drug offenders, the poor or, for that matter, Iraqis.

But I'd still take him over these guys! Hell, I'd take Nixon over them!

[MannyGoldstein]

26. You're Doing Exactly What Clinton Wants

By concluding "But I'd still take him over these guys!", you're buying into Clinton's plan - to suck less than the Republicans.

Until we all push the Democrats back to the left by voting to the left, we will continue to have triangulatin', waffleatin', and job-destroyin' folks like the Clintons, Lieberman, and so forth.

C'mon people! Sucking less is not good enough!