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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:39 PM
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With NSA spying or DIEBOLD do you feel powerless as nothing improves?

Judge's Refusal to Dismiss EFF's Spying Case Sets Stage for Congressional Showdown


July 21, 2006

A federal judge has refused to dismiss the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF's) case against AT&T for collaborating with the NSA in illegal spying on millions of ordinary Americans, setting the stage for a congressional showdown over proposed dramatic changes in federal surveillance law. EFF filed the class-action suit against AT&T in January, alleging that the telecommunications company has given the National Security Agency (NSA) secret, direct access to the phone calls and emails going over its network and has been handing over communications logs detailing the activities of millions of ordinary Americans. The government intervened in the case and asked that it be dismissed because the suit could expose "state secrets." But Thursday, U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker refused: "The compromise between liberty and security remains a difficult one. But dismissing this case at the outset would sacrifice liberty for no apparent enhancement of security."
Full story, For the judge's decision, Key quotes from the decision, More on the draft surveillance bill, More on the AT&T lawsuit:

July 20, 2006

Today, EFF achieved a critical victory in our case against AT&T. Here are some key quotes from the decision: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004833.php



Online Policy Group v. Diebold, Inc.



Diebold, Inc., manufacturer of electronic voting machines, has been sending out many cease-and-desist letters to Internet Service Providers (ISPs), after internal documents indicating flaws in their systems were published on the Internet. The company cited copyright violations under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and demanded that the documents be taken down.

Now EFF and the Center for Internet and Society Cyberlaw Clinic at Stanford Law School are fighting back, seeking a court order on behalf of nonprofit ISP Online Policy Group (OPG) and two Swarthmore College students to prevent Diebold’s abusive copyright claims from silencing public debate about voting, the very foundation of our democratic process.

“Diebold’s blanket cease-and-desist notices are a blatant abuse of copyright law,” said EFF Staff Attorney Wendy Seltzer. “Publication of the Diebold documents is clear fair use because of their direct relevance to the debate over the accuracy of electronic voting machines.”

The documents include email messages written by Diebold employees describing security flaws in the systems, as well as email discussions about how to resolve, or in some cases, obfuscate those problems.

The DMCA contains a "safe harbor" provision as an incentive for ISPs to take down user-posted content when they receive cease-and-desist letters such as the ones sent by Diebold. By removing the content, or forcing the user to do so, an ISP can take itself out of the middle of any copyright claim. As a result, few ISPs have tested whether they would face liability for such user activity in a court of law.

http://www.eff.org/legal/ISP_liability/OPG_v_Diebold/

If you search this site, you will find other victories and pending cases against Diebold.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:42 PM
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1. Hell no!! I feel EMPOWERED!!
But thanks for posting these wonderful motivators, Patrick.

Never Give Up.


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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:44 PM
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2. YOU GO CLASSWARRIOR! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SAY DIE!
:yourock:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:20 PM
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7. kick
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:47 AM
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8. kick
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:45 PM
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3. I feel INSPIRED
to shout FUCK BUSH
just so the NSA can read it.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:47 PM
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4. I apologize for correcting you but use the right type-face when you say it

FUCK BUSH! FUCK THE NSA!

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:23 PM
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5. .
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:06 PM
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6. Thanks for the kick...
I'll be out for a while... If you get the time, please kick it up again later. have a great day Class Warrior.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 10:13 AM
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9. CAN I GET ONE MORE VOTE ON AN EMPOWERING OP?
I want a few more people to get the chance to overcome negative feelings. Put it on "greatest" if you want to allow others to feel a little better about America today. We may not be able to overcome some very real issues but we sure can't fix ANYTHING if we give up before the real fight begins.
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