Dem bloggers discuss ejection from campaign event- video clip

[Rose Siding]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/welcome-to-the-bushliber_b_25771.html

Democrats Jane Hamsher and CT resident "Spazeboy" were ejected from line at Clinton's appearence for Joe. Campaigns always send someone to monitor what the opponent says at events but these two weren't even from the campaign.

Hmm...who else screens their audiences like that?

[madfloridian]

1. More from Spazeboy's site.

http://www.spazeboy.net/category/ct-sen/

More details.

Don't forget to follow the link Maura and CTBob questioning Bozer.

[IndianaGreen]

31. Are the Bush people managing Lieberman's public appearances?

Holy Joe has "First Amendment" zones like his lover boy!

[Javaman]

2. Queue the deathstar music...

Joemomentum has just completed his evil jedi training. Banning opposing voices from his ralley...very good, young joemomentum, very good...mooohooohahahahahahahah...

[madfloridian]

3. Ok, this needs a recommend. Dems made to leave Dem rally?

Wrong. Totally wrong.

[Rose Siding]

7. They wouldn't even let them stand near enough to hear the piped audio

snip>
There were speakers that broadcast Clinton’s speech into the street in the poor Waterbury neighborhood but they wouldn’t let you stand close enough to hear them — when we tried we were quickly forced back into the "Free Speech Zone" at the end of the street.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/25/spazeboy-and-me-get-chucked-by-holy-joe-bush-style

[TechBear_Seattle]

11. It was Clinton who created those "free speech zones"

The came into existence during the WTO disturbances in Seattle in 1999. So it looks like Holy Joe is learning from the best.

[Greyhound]

47. Thank you for the reality recall.

Many forget where much of this fascism came from.

[LiviaOlivia]

4. Jane's link is up at FDL

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/25/spazeboy-and-me-get-chucked-by-holy-joe-bush-style/

~snip~

I drove all the way up to Waterbury yesterday excited about the prospect of seeing Bill Clinton speak. Whatever one may think of Bill, his politics and his legacy, his defiance in the face of the right-wing hate machine onslaught are inspirational. His 1999 SOTU speech was a thing to behold.

Spazeboy and I both had legitimate tickets, and were both given the heave-ho, recognized by Lieberman staffers we had encountered when we accompanied the Kiss Float to other canned events for Holy Joe. Spazeboy has his version of events here. Joe has evidently been picking up pointers from his kissin’ cousin George Bush on how to host a public appearance, because the same goons who nearly made the brave camera-weilding Connecticut Bob soil himself yesterday were in full force at the Bubba bash. Lieberman’s float-o-phobia is getting acute.

There were speakers that broadcast Clinton’s speech into the street in the poor Waterbury neighborhood but they wouldn’t let you stand close enough to hear them — when we tried we were quickly forced back into the "Free Speech Zone" at the end of the street. In the brief bit of Holy Joe’s whiny pitch we managed to catch he quite predictably lied, pretending he was boldly challenging the Bush Administration on global warming. How he did this as the only New England Senator to vote for the Bush/Cheney energy bill he did not explain.

~snip~

[LeahD]

34. I am s-o-o-o disappointed in Boxer. n/t

[erknm]

49. Thoughts of an independent

I stand here on the sidelines of most republican/democrat debates, not being a member of either party. I am an independent, a liberal in the classic sense (too often accused of being Libertarian). Opposed to immigration controls, opposed to the death penalty, a strong environmentalist. I see failures in both parties and when I mention those of the democrats in this forum, I get flamed.

Having said all this, what I see here reminds me of the reaction of a kid when he learns that Santa doesn't exist. The realization that the two major parties are very similar causes a "Say it ain't so Joe" type of reaction. (Reference to Joe Jackson, not Lieberman). A democratic candidate, just like a republican, wants to get elected. Their primary interest is in getting elected and then re-elected. There are some differences of substance but frankly the parties realize that for the most part, voters are mindless sheep who will vote for the member of their party without knowing or caring anything about issues. Most major parties will largely tell voters what they think voters want to hear.

I congratulate those democrats who are sticking to their principles, even if that means leaving a prominent democrat like Leiberman. The parties generally presume that few, if any, of their members will do so. I am not really linked too closely to the Lieberman issues, being here in SoCal, but if DU regulars are dumping on this guy, then he should probably consider moving to a different party.

It will be interesting to see if he is re-elected. If so, then there is more support for politics as usual.

FH

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. didn't Harry Truman say

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."? This is sad, and makes Joe Lieberman look like a coward.

[madfloridian]

6. Here's the link to Maura and CT Bob and their interview.

with a very angry Barbara Boxer and Lieberman. I get no satisfaction from such stuff as this, it is appalling that we are not supposed to question. Maura is a very sensible person, I don't know CT Bob. Maura did not even get to finish her question.

http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006/07/sen-boxer-and-sen-lieberman-today.html

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

33. Who has Boxer's email contact ?

Would someone please email her this article from the 3/13/06 New Haven Register where LIEberman is quoted on the "short drive" statment which Boxer is denying he made ??


Contraceptive issue creating political storm
Gregory B. Hladky
03/13/2006

Rape counseling activists say a recent study shows that about 20 percent of hospitals in Connecticut — including the state’s four Catholic hospitals — fail to routinely offer contraceptives to all rape victims.

They said all rape victims deserve to be offered emergency contraceptives immediately at whatever hospital they go to for treatment. Rape victims, they argue, are often physical and emotional wrecks, and that sending them to another hospital or a pharmacy to obtain contraceptives amounts to cruelty.

<snip>


U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, who often takes a conservative line on social issues, is facing a liberal Democratic primary challenge from wealthy Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont. But that hasn’t stopped Lieberman from supporting the approach of the Catholic hospitals when it comes to contraceptives for rape victims.

Lieberman said he believes hospitals that refuse to give contraceptives to rape victims for "principled reasons" shouldn’t be forced to do so. "In Connecticut, it shouldn’t take more than a short ride to get to another hospital," he said.


http://www.nhregister.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=16292372&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517515&rfi=8

[babylonsister]

8. Total crap! Joe learned well from dimson.

[Cooley Hurd]

9. Amazing - Joe uses republican talking points and republican tactics...

kicking and recommending!:grr:

[smoogatz]

10. Outrageous.

Democrats should NOT be holding these canned "public" appearances, in which registered-Democrat ticket-holders are screened for opposing views. Let the Republicans have their little Hitler rallies--this is NOT the way the party of inclusion ought to behave.

[Eric J in MN]

22. Lieberman has become an embarassment to the Democratic Party.

Until today, we could proudly say that Republicans bar people with opposing views from attending speeches, and Democrats don't.

Donate to Ned Lamont:
http://nedlamont.com/

[derby378]

12. Neither of them put up a fight?

Try to snatch my ticket from me, and you pull back a stump. This is ludicrous.

[Eric J in MN]

21. The guy had his ticket snatched away, but the woman..

was just told she can't enter without losing her ticket.

[Name removed]

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[lavenderdiva]

14. I can't help thinking this would be an excellent topic for Keith O.

I have e-mailed Countdown the link shared here. Thank you for highlighting this story--

[Blue Gardener]

15. This has got to be Lieberman's doing

If Clinton knew about it I will be extremely disapponted. I hope we find out what he thinks of the whole thing.

[OzarkDem]

17. Its not Clinton's style

I attended several rallies when he was candidate and prez and everyone got in, even protestors. I recall times when union people were yelling about NAFTA, ACT UP people were blowing whistles and protesting about AIDS treatment, etc. Clinton always dealt with it.

[w4rma]

18. 1999, WTO events. (nt)

[ima_sinnic]

16. gee, that'll win some votes for Joe --

NOT.

un-be-LEE-vable!! could he be any more repukian??

it IS gratifying to really believe, however, that this WILL have consequences for the scheistkopf. he was already losing; this should simply clinch it.

[WillyT]

19. What's The Big Surprise ??? Joe's Been Acting Republican For...

quite a while now!



Just another reason to dump his ass, and put all our weight into electing Lamont.

:shrug:

[Eric J in MN]

20. Free speech? No dissent allowed!

..You may have a ticket but you can't get in!

Donate to Ned Lamont:
http://nedlamont.com/

[saracat]

23. It amazes me that people think this is unique. I am a member of the

"Democratic Press". I work for the Democratic Party with a political TV show and I have been thrown out of tons of events, including events with Bill Clinton. I think it is very wrong but it happens all the time. The elitism is one of the worst things about our party.I am amazed that these bloggers were surprised. I don't think they really were. I think they expected this and wanted to use it as an issue.

[Eric J in MN]

24. Did you have a ticket? NT

NT

[iamthebandfanman]

28. well

u hafta remember the party and politics didnt become so easily accessible to learn about and participate in without leaving ur house until the last 6-8 years...
so id imagine people had no clue that sorta thing took place.

im surprised people like yourself that did know from previous experiences have tolerated it for so long.

when will they realize that the progressive movement is going to stomp-out their elitism ?
oh wait, they already do , and they will know when ole joe goes down.
tho i must admit i feel bad for the guy, even tho things like this tend to ease my pain for him ;)

[saracat]

46. I have complained about this before not only on DU but to the people

concerned. I have spoken to Howard Dean and to Terry MacAuliffe before him. No seemedto care then, and I don't think they do now.It is considered "politics as usual".

[madfloridian]

29. Why didn't you tell us about this sooner?

And of course they are using it as an issue....they should. If this has been happening to you on a regular basis, then you should make an issue of it also.

[saracat]

45. Believe me, I do.

And it doesn't make you popular! It is the politics as usual meme.

[NewJeffCT]

25. I'm ashamed Joe is from CT

I heard spazeboy on Colin McEnroe this afternoon, too. Seems like he has a good head on his shoulders, and certainly no danger.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

30. K & R for Spazeboy and Jane n/t

[pokercat999]

26. Clinton and Loserman are no longer Democrats

throw them out of the party. Organize against them the are RW Fundies!

[ninkasi]

27. I don't care

how much money Lieberman has, or who endorses him. I don't live in his state, but I will never send money, or rally behind somebody like him. I am a Democrat, and a liberal, and am not ashamed of it. Bush and his whole corrupt administration have to be stopped, and gaining control of at least one house of Congress is what it will take. Why would I support a man who may as well run as a Republican?

Sorry, Joe, but Bill, or Boxer, or anybody else you can suck up to won't change my mind. The Democratic Party I have been a member of for over 40 years does not need people like you. We need someone who will rally behind Democratic causes, and an end to the war in Iraq.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

32. If Ned does not win the primary, LIEberman's

comportment during this campaign is going to make it very hard for me to support him in the general elections. I hope I don't have to face that choice

[fordnut]

40. i couldn't agree with you more

i think anyone that goes aloong with Bush dopn't get my
vote.that includes Hillary Rodham Clinton just remnber who's
worthy in November of your vote.

[pacalo]

35. My guess is that they've got Diebold revved up for him in November, too.

Never mind that Liebermann doesn't represent his constituency or that he's not wanted by his constituency. Liebermann is smart enough to see that, yet he's going to stay in the election even if it means switching parties -- because, it seems to me, the election is in the bag. If he's in the race, he's going to win. (I hope I'm wrong.)

[Nabia2004]

36. It has that feel doesn't it? - nt

[EST]

37. You bring up an interesting point, one which has nagged at me

more than I would like. Could it be that a rather large portion of the reluctance evident at higher echelon in the democratic party to face the obvious election fraud could result from their pre-knowledge of and agreement with the fraud?
Could it be that they plan to use the same unethical channels that the party of "family values" has engineered? I am aware that the state elections here have been the subject of massive fraud for at least the last twenty years and those familiar with Illinois politics seem to understand and accept the system as nnormal-warts and all.

[Pale Blue Dot]

39. No Diebold in CT

Election fraud, therefore, is a bit harder to pull off here.

[fordnut]

41. i think your right

i think George W knows the republicans will win in November and the democrates will lose control of congress.George W said so on Larry King live.so the election is fixed.i think everyone should march march and demand a recount

[Voltaire99]

38. Joe sends a little message to reformers...

It's my party, not yours.

And if you think he and Clinton are kidding, just wait and see.

[Greyhound]

48. I like you.

:hi:

Maybe others will eventually wake up. :shrug:

[PghTiny]

42. Just contributed $50 to Lamont

More than a day's pay for me, but it's worth it to get that Bushbot Holy Joe out of office.

[Usrename]

44. Welcome to DU PghTiny ! ! !

I think you are my new hero. Finally folks are waking up to face the treachery of some elected officials. Lieberman should leave the Democratic party nowand stop pretending that he thinks there is anything wrong with the fascist that are running things. He is one of them. We have to quit letting monsters like him hide out in our party.

[formercia]

43. "KAPO" Joe and "swingin'" Bill Take the Blue Pill.

DLC all the way....