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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:31 PM
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B*sh allies in revolt against Condosleazy saying that she is incompetent
Issue Date: www.insightmag.com - July 25-31, 2006, Posted On: 7/25/2006

Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda

Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda.

The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

The criticism of Miss Rice has been intense and comes from a range of Republican loyalists, including current and former aides in the Defense Department and the office of Vice President Dick Cheney. They have warned that Iran has been exploiting Miss Rice's inexperience and incompetence to accelerate its nuclear weapons program. They expect a collapse of her policy over the next few months.

Tesxt to full article: http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Condi2.htm
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:33 PM
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1. You mean they didn't notice Condi "Who's Osama???" Rice's incompetence
before? Like, on 9/11?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:33 PM
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2. got to like it when the maggots eat one of their own....
:popcorn:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:34 PM
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3. Get out the popcorn machine
they're starting to eat their own.

"oh boy this is gonna be great!" -Flounder, Animal House
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:37 PM
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4. Condi wasn`t qualified for the job then and
she isn`t qualified now. She`d do better selling designer shoes.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:38 PM
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5. An excuse to avoid accountablity
They have warned that Iran has been exploiting Miss Rice's inexperience and incompetence to accelerate its nuclear weapons program.
They expect a collapse of her policy over the next few months.

Um, September maybe? Just before elections?

Just sayin.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:38 PM
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6. for once ... they might be right
i guess that infinite monkey theorem might be right afterall
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:39 PM
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7. Condascenda.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:40 PM
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8. Gasp! Dissension in the ranks of the corps de ballet. So it's time for it
to be all Condi's fault for misleading the president. It's not undeserved criticism, at least the incompetent part. But slipping in that there's reason for yet another Bush fuckup that also isn't his fault is slimy. They WILL run out of people to blame. Then the cheese will, at last, stand alone.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:46 PM
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10. Exactly, this whole bunch of criminals-- they're all incompetent fuckups
And yet they consistently try to make it look like * isn't responsible.
It's always someone else's fault.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:39 AM
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16. The corps de ballet!!!??!?! LOL!!!
I love this! If somebody wants to run her for California governor or heaven forbid - president, we'll have these GOP jackals to thank for doing some of our legwork for us.

Contradicta is more overrated than anyone else on the planet. Whoever thought she was competent at anything? In over her head is putting it RAWTHER mildly, to say the least!
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:41 PM
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9. Here is a blatant example of her incompetence
Completely misinformed at how popular Nasrallah and Hezbollah are in Lebanon, the Americans felt that if it did not attempt to censure Israel over the bombing of Lebanon, the Lebanese would rise against Hezbollah, the way they did against the Syrians in February-March 2005. Realizing now how foolish such an assumption really was, the Bush team dispatched Rice to Beirut to meet with Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and discuss more realistic approaches to the crisis. Rice told the premier, "Thank you for your courage and steadfastness." This single remark was enough to add more fire to the anti-Americanism boiling in Lebanon.

What steadfastness was Rice talking about? It was rather ironic for Rice to thank Siniora for showing steadfastness against an assault that she had condoned and tolerated for two weeks. And Siniora's cabinet is held together by a coalition that includes Hezbollah and members of the military. Further, a number of Hezbollah members are deputies in the Lebanese parliament. Nabih Berri, the Shi'ite Speaker of parliament who is closely allied with Nasrallah, and with whom Rice met in Beirut, has said that any prisoner exchange by Hezbollah will be administered by the Lebanese government - Siniora's cabinet. Meaning, Hezbollah captures and fights and the cabinet negotiates a prisoner swap on its behalf.

Yet Rice insisted on acting as if Hezbollah were an illegal movement that did not officially exist in Lebanon, ignoring that in Siniora's cabinet agenda he echoes what Hezbollah says - such as demanding the release of Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails and the return of the Sheba Farms occupied by Israel. Rice should understand that any public patronization of Nasrallah, or verbal assault on him by Siniora, would bring down the Lebanese government. A comedy show mocking Nasrallah on Lebanese TV this summer nearly caused a Shi'ite revolution in Beirut.

Nobody can come out and call Nasrallah a terrorist in Lebanon - even if Rice and Bush ordered them to do so - at least, not when he is fighting a war against Israel. By insisting on such an attitude, Rice demonstrates just how misinformed she is on Middle East affairs. She conditioned that Hezbollah retreat 20 kilometers from the border with Israel, saying that there would be no ceasefire unless Hezbollah released the two Israeli soldiers captured on July 12 - something that Nasrallah has repeatedly refused to do.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG26Ak01.html
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:29 PM
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12. Is she mis-informed, or is she using their over-worked rhetorical
device, "new-speak"? Call something whatever you want to call it, usually the opposite of whatever it really is, repeat, repeat, repeat, and presto-change-o, it becomes what you call it.

I am convinced this is what they will do about Iraq. At some point they'll say "We won" and then commence to "bring the Troops home" without bringing them home.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:38 PM
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13. BTW, re Lebanon and Hezbollah don't hate each other . . .
About 300 people of ME descent, of all ages, joined our weekly War Protest group last Sunday at a centrally located fountain her in K.C. They were carrying Lebanese and Palestinian flags and had made many signs condemning murder.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:48 PM
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11. The State Department is a common enemy of the right.
At least that's what I got from this article:
http://www.harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:56 PM
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14. Good. Get them fighting each other. Kindasleazy might be a candidate
since GOPers don't seem to care that she's a compulsive liar and a failure at her first job.
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:25 PM
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15. Seems like only yesterday
Newt Gingrich went on Hannity and Combs and attacked Colin Powell and the state department for not going along with the Neocon line. Its obvious, Newt and his ilk want a perpetual state of war, "World War III." But let me assure you this won't happen. I know its common here to attack the dumb American people but bottom line, most people despite being ill-educated on the state of the world, are rational people. They don't want their children being drafted to fight Iran and North Korea in never ending war. There would be a revolt. For a war time President after 9/11, Bush's numbers are in the toilet. Does that say anything?
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