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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:50 AM
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Republican Hypocrisy on Teen Pregnancy
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 09:09 AM by Bob Geiger


The Republican-controlled, 109th Congress has invented new modes of hypocrisy on an almost weekly basis and the Senate yesterday sure kept that ball rolling.

By a vote of 65-34, the Senate passed S. 403, a bill that made it a crime to go around parental-notification laws by transporting a pregnant minor across state lines for an abortion. Shortly before that, Senate Republicans mobilized to reject an amendment by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) that would have funded programs to reduce the very teen pregnancies at issue in the bill that was passed.

OK, you try figuring out whether or not the GOP wants teenagers to have babies.

“We all want to reduce teen pregnancies and abortions. To achieve that, we must do what works, not what pleases political constituencies,” said Lautenberg, referring to the GOP tendency to kiss up to the Religious Right, by supporting abstinence as the only solution to unwanted pregnancies. “A comprehensive approach to sex education, which includes both abstinence and information on contraception, is the proven way to reduce the number of teen pregnancies."

"If the Senate passes this punitive bill but fails to do anything about teen pregnancy, it would prove that this exercise is only a political charade and not a serious effort to reduce abortions," said Lautenberg, referring to S. 403.

As if on cue, Tom Coburn (R-OK) stepped up to the microphone and mouthed all the appropriate words for the Religious Right, saying that abstinence is the only solution.

"How many people really think it's in the best interest of young people to be sexually active outside of marriage? Does anything positive ever come from that?" Coburn piously asked on the Senate floor.

Lautenberg's amendment, which was cosponsored by four other Democrats, including fellow New Jersey Democrat Robert Menendez, accounted for both abstinence programs and common sense educational measures to help teens make informed choices.

Here's a critical part of the legislation, straight from the bill:
The Secretary of Health and Human Services may make grants to States, local educational agencies, State and local public health agencies, and nonprofit private entities for the purpose of carrying out programs of family life education, including education on both abstinence and contraception for the prevention of teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease, and education to support healthy adolescent development."

I guess we can see why radical ideas like that would scare the hell out of most Republicans.

The vote on the pregnancy-prevention bill was 48-51, with Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), Susan Collins (R-ME), Gordon Smith (R-OR), Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) joining all Democrats except GOP-lite Ben Nelson (D-NE) in voting for the program.

“Our role as a community is to provide opportunity and education for young people to help prevent teen pregnancy from happening in the first place," said Menendez. "We can achieve this by making the community more available through after-school programs, as well as, partnerships with faith-based and other community organizations.”

Ah, but Menendez is not accounting for the reality that what matters to at least half of our U.S. Senators is what James Dobson and Tony Perkins say on the subject.

The federal government currently does not fund comprehensive sex-education programs, despite the fact that 75 percent of parents say that in addition to abstinence, sex-education should cover contraception and other forms of birth control.

Meanwhile, S. 403, the Child Custody Protection Act, passed, with Republican Senators claiming it would protect pregnant teens while their Democratic colleagues argued it would do just the opposite.

"No parent wants anyone to take their children across state lines or even across the street without their permission," said Mitch McConnell (-KY). "This is a fundamental right, and the Congress is right to uphold it in law."

But many Democrats strongly disagreed, saying that the measure would make criminals out of concerned extended-family members and place young girls in even greater danger by making an already-difficult decision even harder to deal with.

"I think it will make them fearful. I think it will make them feel alone," said Barbara Boxer (D-CA). "This bill needs a lot more work."

"We're going to sacrifice a lot of girls' lives," said Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) while Ted Kennedy (D-MA) -- as he has done so often in this Congress -- called into question why the GOP leadership continues to waste time on such issues.

"Congress ought to have higher priorities than turning grandparents into criminals," said Kennedy.

Abortion rights groups also came out strongly against the bill with the Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) calling it the "Teen Endangerment Act" and planning a legal challenge to the law.

"The Center for Reproductive Rights strongly opposes the abortion bill passed today by the Senate," said the CRR in a press release. "Far from providing protection, this legislation endangers the health of young women and criminalizes grandmothers, aunts and sisters for simply helping a loved one in a highly personal time of need."

"The Senate showed a frightening lack of compassion for American teens and a disturbing willingness to play politics with their health and safety today," said Stephenie Foster of Planned Parenthood. "We all want our daughters to come to us, but what is most important is that they are safe. Parents need support to keep their kids healthy and safe — not laws that criminalize family members for helping teens get access to good medical care."

But this bill still has a bit of a journey before it becomes law, with significant differences in the Senate's version and the similar legislation passed last year by the House of Representatives. Those bills must be reconciled before the consolidated measure can hit George W. Bush's desk for a certain signature.

And it's important for Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) and his House counterpart, Dennis Hastert (R-IL), to know that their patrons on the far Right are watching.

"Senator Ensign and his colleagues are to be praised for the hard work in passing this important legislation," said Tony Perkins, President of the ultraconservative Family Research Council. "I fully expect a strong bill to come out of conference and be passed by both bodies."

I'm sure Frist and Hastert will make sure that it's done right away, Mr. Perkins.

You can reach Bob Geiger at geiger.bob@gmail.com.

Update:

Excellent numbers from Lautenberg as he argued on behalf of his pregnancy-prevention amendment on the Senate floor yesterday:
"The U.S. teen pregnancy rate is the highest by far among developed countries, and here is some of the evidence we use to prove this.

"In Germany, the teen pregnancy rate is 16 per 1,000. The U.S. rate is 84 per 1,000. I ask my colleagues to look at this chart which shows several countries teen pregnancy rates compared with the U.S. This is teen pregnancy rate for ages 15 to 19, among developed countries per 1,000 persons. In Sweden, it is 25 young women per 1,000; in France, it is 20 young women per 1,000; in Canada, 46; in Great Britain, 47; and here we are. Are we the winners in this contest? I hardly think so. We have 84 unintended teenage pregnancies per 1,000 persons.

"I mentioned before that Germany has a teen pregnancy rate of 16 per 1,000, and again, I mention the rate in the United States is 84 per 1,000. So it tells us that there is something terribly wrong about the way we do things here.

"I look further at Belgium, which has a teen pregnancy rate of 14 per 1,000; the Netherlands, 12 per 1,000; and ours is 84 per 1,000. We cannot continue to ignore facts such as these. We can pass all the abortion restrictions we can think of, but unless there are fewer teen pregnancies, the results will be tragic for thousands of young women."

What a not-so-amazing correlation that the countries that are the least uptight about sex-education are the ones with the lowest teen-pregnancy rates.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:53 AM
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1. So Tom Coburn did not try to get laid when he was a teen?
<As if on cue, Tom Coburn (R-OK) stepped up to the microphone and mouthed all the appropriate words for the Religious Right, saying that abstinence is the only solution.

"How many people really think it's in the best interest of young people to be sexually active outside of marriage? Does anything positive ever come from that?" Coburn piously asked on the Senate floor.>

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:04 AM
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2. "I learned from the mistakes I made when I was a kid
so all kids out there need to learn from the mistakes I made when I was a kid."

That's the reasoning. Really. They have no clue that kids still have to make their own damn mistakes. They think they can dictate to kids what reality is and how to behave.

It's never worked that way, fellas, and never will. The question for YOU is whether or not you want your daughters to live through those mistakes.

I guess you don't.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:07 AM
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3. It was fine for him
According to them, it's fine for males to have sex (even teenage sex) outside of marriage. It's the girls they claim to want to protect (Now, how much like medieval Europe does that sound like?). Of course, I've never been able to figure out just WHO the teenage boys were supposed to have sex with if it wasn't teenage girls who can get pregnant. Maybe prostitutes? A lot of the GOP seem to like them as adults, so why not when they were teenagers.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:56 PM
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19. what if it's a teenaged prostitute? it is ok then?
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:39 PM
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21. Nope, I think by their rules
That would be bad for teenage boys (but OK for adult Republicans, as long as they don't get caught). Remember, girls shouldn't even think about sex until they turn 18. We MUST protect the children.

/sarcasm
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:47 PM
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26. teenage sex
Maybe just let them have sex with their teachers. Wasn't Mary Kaye the daughter of one of the first wing-nuts?
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:17 PM
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23. Yes, Tom
I was sexually active outside of marriage. With my now husband of 32 years.

What CENTURY are you living in, Congressman?
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:16 PM
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24. Ditto.
We've now been together for 30 years, and married for 23. And, I'm glad we were not forced to carry some pregnancy to term (luckily, the birth control worked for me). Now, we enjoy a home large enough for my daughter to have TWO rooms and her own bathroom, and go to the finest private school in the area. Planned parenthood is a GOOD thing.

Oh, and we adopted; I didn't notice any hardright fundamentalists in my county adoptions class either.

Sorry, this crud gets this retired social worker SO ticked off; and, tragically, some hardright fundamentalist inlaws of mine helped elect that SOB Coburn (Hubby maintains the dialogue with them).

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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:40 AM
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4. Senate Anti-Abortion Bill Is Anti-Family
A bill that criminalizes sisters, aunts, or grandparents taking a pregnant teen across state lines for abortion services can only be described as being "pro-family" by shameless, amoral, and dishonest hypocrites.

I marvel at how any thinking individual would think such legislation would "strengthen families." Former president Clinton could see through such hypocrisy; he vetoed similar legislation.

As to those would-be voters who are finally getting off the fence and are thinking of finally doing something with their franchise--this is the result of sitting on the sidelines and letting right-wingers get elected.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:15 PM
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16. Well said!
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 12:15 PM by Mad_Dem_X
It's worded so that even another family member can't take the girl to get an abortion unless the parent says it's okay. Not a grandparent, aunt, or uncle. What about kids that cannot talk to their parents, for whatever reason?

GOP hypocracy run amok once again.

Edit: spelling
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:44 AM
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5. "Does anything positive ever come from that?" (sexually active teens)
I was going to respond with a sly quip about a HUGE NUMBER of Republican offspring, but then I realized that I would be making the Republicans' point - that nothing good comes from young people being sexually active outside of marriage ...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:45 AM
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6. You want comically ironic?
My brother was the reason why my mother and father got married ... and he's the one who exhibits the freeptard mentality ...
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:13 AM
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7. this is a losing issue for the Dems, we should avoid it and let the people

..suffer with the choices of their elected officials.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:53 AM
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8. It's a losing issue because
It underscores the Dem "leadership's" cowardice and inability to frame issues.

And gee- where was Bill Clinton?

Supporting a condidate- in a primary who believes that hosptial should be permitted to deny women who've been raped access to emergency contraception.
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:04 AM
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9. Here's An Idea....
slip a rider in the bill to REALLY see where everyone's loyalties lie.

Make it a class one misdemeanor to impregnate a teenager.
The punishment?
Forfeiture of half of one's income per year until the child produced reached 21 years of age.

Mucking about with their money is the only thing that makes Republicans stand up and listen.
"It takes two to tango" is their usual battle cry, so let's get BOTH partners, right?

--MAB
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:09 AM
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10. Abortion: Pregnancy enabler?
If the right believes abortion enables pregnancy, why don't
they go all the way and ban adoption? Fred Phelps might agree.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:23 AM
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11. I heard a moment or two of Coburn talking and he was telling a sob story
about some constituent handing him a bag full of condoms and oral contraceptives that his daughter had been given without asking for them when she accompanied a friend to a clinic. His constituent was asking how such a tragedy could occur when he was a taxpayer, blah, blah, blah....


What clinic hands out oral contraceptive samples?? What kind of lies is Coburn telling? Did I hear him say he was a doctor?
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:38 AM
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12. Old time Religion is about old men getting a many teens pregnant
as possible. Look at King David for example - had over 500 off spring from multiple wives. They don't want to stop teen pregnancy nor the burden on the tax payers it causes. These teens aren't getting pregnant on their own, but there is no consequence to the men involved. How many of those Senators offered to adopt a baby?
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:49 AM
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13. Good job by Lautenberg
My senator. He calls 'em out. My favorite was, of course, him taking to the floor of the Senate with a poster of a Chickenhwak, complete with definition, to rip on Bush, Cheney, et al. and their cheerleading for war:

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:12 PM
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14. Thank you, Bob for keeping us up to date
on what these authoritarian misogynists are doing.

Please read the book, "The Republican War Against Women," by Tanya Melich. She was a life long Pug who fought so hard to keep the Theocrats from taking over her Party.

After reading this book, I realized that my worst fears were true. These men don't care about fetuses...they care about pushing women backward in time. Did you ever wonder what these neocon theocrats want to do with these 'snowflakes' that have been banned for stem cell research? They're setting the table to implant these snowflakes into poor women. Maybe they will offer citizenship to immigrant women if they will carry these WHITE babies to term.

These US theocrats are no better than the Taliban. I am beginning to think that these Senators are pro-incest. Sure would be nice to see a Dem get up and declare Coburn's actions pro-incest.

These are the same type of guys who burned all the women at the stake.

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:14 PM
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15. How will this be enforced?
Will all women regardless of age have to pee in a cup & pass a pregnancy test before being allowed to travel to another state?

Assholes.

dg
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:47 PM
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17. Spending the summer in Montreal.....
and it comes as no surprise that EVERYONE I know here is appalled at the very thought of this type of legislation. This kind of political discourse just isn't happening in Canada or any other civilized country. Here it is a given that a woman has a right to do whatever she damn well pleases with her body.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:54 PM
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18. It is obvious that the GOP wants more teen pregnancy and outlaw abortion.
How else are they going to get fresh bodies to feed to their war machine. They would prefer to keep women in cages like pigs, have them artificially inseminated annually, and send the babies strait to boot camp. Once the women run out of eggs, send them off to war too. hopefully they will get killed so that they won't cost the company any more money by going on disability.

The GOP has learned a lot from the factory farms that fuel the meat industry.
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MagnumDB Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:16 PM
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20. How Republicans Choose...
I am guessing the Republicans don't actually want to spend money stopping pregnancies. They would rather just make it a crime, because doing that is much cheaper then funding any kind of program.

And the more people in prison, the better I guess.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:10 PM
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22. PBS Children's Show Host Fired Over Abstinance Satire
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 04:18 PM by JPZenger
I just read an article in the Phila. Inquirer about how a popular host (Melanie) of an evening PBS show for small children was fired. She had made some satirical videos about "technical virginity" and abstinance education. Apparently, they were just jokes and not intended to be public. Somebody posted them on the web, and now to make the anti-sex crowd happy, PBS felt they had to fire her.

Many small children are very angry about this. I suggest a small children's march on the Capitol.

More on that topic at:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=5413580

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/25/93042/0178
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:46 PM
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25. Jeeeeeeeeeeeez
Are there federal laws that make it a crime to transport anyone across state lines for any other offense that is legal in one state but not in another?
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pissed off duck Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:18 AM
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27. Penn and Teller's Bullshit
If anyone has the privledge of a Showtime subscription, I highly reccomend this program. One episode in particular was a very eloquent view of "abstinence only sex-ed". They make some very well thought out points that absitnence is "bullshit" to say the least, not to forget the poor sex-ed programs you may find around the country.

Those who have a chance to, check it out, but I have no clue when they will be airing re-runs.
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sangfroid Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:04 AM
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28. Every Sperm Is Precious...
Monty Python had it right!

Now, it may sound like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat, but sometimes I think the whole Repug-Religious Right craziness about removing a woman's right to choose may have a lot more to do with needing mobs of poor teenagers willing to sign on the dotted line for military service than any real interest in halting abortion. You need lots and lots of poor kids with no hope and no skills if you're going to make the world safe for Halliburton. And where do we get those poor kids? By turning every women into a baby factory.

Sorry about the rant, but this crap just drives me buggy!
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