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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:46 AM
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Schaivo Endorses Lamont


Could the Lamont camp ever outdo the hype of Bill Clinton on? They’re trying…

Michael Schiavo, the former husband of Terri, is headed to Connecticut to stump for Ned Lamont on Friday, accompanied by doctors and lawyers. Mr. Lamont says his opposition to Senator Joseph I. Lieberman had a lot to do with the senator’s support to allow the federal court to consider keeping her on a feeding tube.

(“There ought to be a huge distance between my hospital room and the federal government,” Mr. Lamont says.)

http://empirezone.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=407
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:57 AM
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1. Will this be the Kiss of Death for Lamont's campaign in CT? If Lamont were
...running in Florida and used this endorsement by Michael Schiavo he would end up dead in the water.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:00 AM
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2. The country was widely opposed to govt intervention on Schaivo
The numbers were astronomical. This is a good endorsement.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:32 AM
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4. My take on it is that folks wanted the government
out of the situation, but I have never heard anyone say anything positive about Michael Schiavo.

I live in Florida.

His endorsement will be more negative than positive around here.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 01:53 PM
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8. I disagree., I don't think it will hurt at all.
Everyone I know here was furious about that situation.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:04 AM
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3. I don't know the sentiments in Florida, but are you sure about your claim?
While there was certainly a vocal group in Florida, i am far less sure they represent the majority of Floridians. The whole notion of what the Repubs did around that event was pretty widely held as being distatseful. I woud imagine Florida's citizenry is much like the rest of the country.

I think this endorsement, by itself, means little one way or the other. What it **does** allow, however, is a way for Lamont to bring into the debate yet another issue where Holy is out of step with the majority.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:55 PM
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10. You are right.
It brings the Schiavo fiasco out into the open. Even my "fundy" neighbors who listen to CBN all day got mad because the government pushed their way in.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:06 PM
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13. What my point is that
dissatisfaction with the government did not necessarily equate with approval of Michael Schiavo. I heard a lot of statements like "the government should stay out of it...but I never did trust the husband." etc.

Now, consider most of my colleagues are ESE teachers. That might skew my results, come to think of it.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 01:31 PM
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5. YIKES! I'm not in CT but I'm not in FL, either -
- and I don't know of a soul who has a warm fuzzy feeling about Michael Schiavo. Lamont's opinions on the Schiavo case is one thing. Having Michael stump for him is something altogether different. Schiavo just has waaayyy too much baggage of his own to be campaigning for anyone.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 01:51 PM
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7. Schiavo advocates medical privacy for families.
What "baggage" are you talking about other than the de-bunkled claims the media made up?

Most folks realize that Terry really was brain dead and that the GOP/media lied to them.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 02:48 PM
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9. Too much baggage? Like becoming a nurse so he could care for his wife for
years?? That kind of baggage?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:03 PM
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11. That is my impression
from talking to family and friends. I personally don't have anything against the guy.

BTW, most of my family and friends are Dems. I would assume the pubs wouldn't be excited by him.

But that part of FL has a strong Scientology lobby that I really don't quite have a grip on, so I'm not sure.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 01:37 PM
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6. This is a good endorsment
Edited on Thu Jul-27-06 01:38 PM by Larkspur
Michael Schiavo went through hell thanks to the Religious nutcases, his ex in-laws who allowed themselves to be used as tools for the Religious wingnuts, and politicians like Bush, Sen. Frist, and Holy Joe Lieberman.

Most people would sympathize with Michael Schiavo and would be pissed at what he went through because most would not want what happened to M. Schiavo to happen to them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:03 PM
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12. Why the anti-Schiavo stuff in this thread?
I live in the heart of Southern Baptist land in central Florida, and know no one who wanted the government to intervene.

Don't let the media play you.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:08 PM
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14. I agree. I live in CT and I think
this endorsement will serve to remind people of the Terri Schiavo case rather than have them linger over Michael Schiavo and how good or not he is. It will remind them that Lieberman supported intervening.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:10 PM
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16. Now THAT's
a good point.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:09 PM
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15. I'm not anti-Schiavo
at all. I'm just trying to gauge whether or not he would be a negative or positive element in a political campaign. That is not being anti-Schiavo. There were very strong opinions at that time and that certainly would have some bearing on his political capital, one way or the other.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:18 PM
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17. I think most of the people who couldn't
(and can't) stand Michael Schiavo are those who felt her parents should have gotten custody of her, that she should be kept alive, etc. And many of them were fundies. I think that even if the messenger isn't all cuddly and lovable the message is still the same. Most people were angry at the government intervening. And there are not too many fundies in CT. I really don't think it will be a negative for Lamont.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 03:33 PM
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18. See, that was the point I was trying
to make and I guess I didn't do it very well. My family and friends are for the most part rather progressive Dems. And most of them expressed during it all that they believed she should be allowed to pass on, but that they didn't trust the husband. I really don't know many fundies. Well, I know a few but I don't talk issues with them.

However, many of my colleagues are exceptional ed teachers. So I just don't know if that has any bearing or not.

I just think there were three categories at that time: Total support for Schiavo; Total support for the family; Total support for Schiavo's actions but distrust regarding his motives. Maybe there was even a fourth category, support for the family but distrust of their motives. I just personally met/spoke with a lot of that third group.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 05:42 PM
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19. good for him! Talk about the weight of the neocons on his back!
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