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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:09 AM
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Detainee Abuse Charges Feared
Ok, I would consider this an admission of crimes.


Shield Sought From '96 War Crimes Act

By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 28, 2006; A01



An obscure law approved by a Republican-controlled Congress a decade ago has made the Bush administration nervous that officials and troops involved in handling detainee matters might be accused of committing war crimes, and prosecuted at some point in U.S. courts.

Senior officials have responded by drafting legislation that would grant U.S. personnel involved in the terrorism fight new protections against prosecution for past violations of the War Crimes Act of 1996. That law criminalizes violations of the Geneva Conventions governing conduct in war and threatens the death penalty if U.S.-held detainees die in custody from abusive treatment.

In light of a recent Supreme Court ruling that the international Conventions apply to the treatment of detainees in the terrorism fight, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales has spoken privately with Republican lawmakers about the need for such "protections," according to someone who heard his remarks last week.

Gonzales told the lawmakers that a shield is needed for actions taken by U.S. personnel under a 2002 presidential order, which the Supreme Court declared illegal, and under Justice Department legal opinions that have been withdrawn under fire, the source said. A spokeswoman for Gonzales, Tasia Scolinos, declined to comment on Gonzales's remarks.

The Justice Department's top legal adviser, Steven G. Bradbury, separately testified two weeks ago that Congress must give new "definition and certainty" to captors' risk of prosecution for coercive interrogations that fall short of outright torture.

Language in the administration's draft, which Bradbury helped prepare in concert with civilian officials at the Defense Department, seeks to protect U.S. personnel by ruling out detainee lawsuits to enforce Geneva protections and by incorporating language making U.S. enforcement of the War Crimes Act subject to U.S. -- not foreign -- understandings of what the Conventions require.

The aim, Justice Department lawyers say, is also to take advantage of U.S. legal precedents that limit sanctions to conduct that "shocks the conscience." This phrase allows some consideration by courts of the context in which abusive treatment occurs, such as an urgent need for information, the lawyers say -- even though the Geneva prohibitions are absolute.

The Supreme Court, in contrast, has repeatedly said that foreign interpretations of international treaties such as the Geneva Conventions should at least be considered by U.S. courts.

Some human rights groups and independent experts say they oppose undermining the reach of the War Crimes Act, arguing that it deters government misconduct. They say any step back from the Geneva Conventions could provoke mistreatment of captured U.S. military personnel. They also contend that Bush administration anxieties about prosecutions are overblown and should not be used to gain congressional approval for rough interrogations.

"The military has lived with" the Geneva Conventions provisions "for 50 years and applied them to every conflict, even against irregular forces. Why are we suddenly afraid now about the vagueness of its terms?" asked Tom Malinowski, director of the Washington office of Human Rights Watch.

Since the U.S. invasions of Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003, hundreds of service members deployed to Iraq have been accused by the Army of mistreating detainees, and at least 35 detainees have died in military or CIA custody, according to a tally kept by Human Rights First. The military has asserted these were all aberrant acts by troops ignoring their orders.

(con't) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701908_pf.html
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:43 AM
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1. Irony, at its best
they will face the music due to a law most likely passed to entrap a Democrat.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:48 AM
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2. they are evil hypocrites
If they don't face justice in this world, they will face it in the next and I don't think any act of contrition will save them.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:28 AM
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3. You got to love it, sometimes life is its own best storry. n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 06:51 PM
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4. kick
:kick:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:13 PM
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5. poetic justice
I guess they thought withdrawing from the International Court and blackmailing countries to whom we give aid would cover their pasty-white, flabby chickenhawk asses.

Ha.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:23 PM
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6. The best laid plans of mice and men. n/t
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