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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:28 PM
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Yes
Yes, Israel can be accused of overreaching. That term should be broad enough to encompass all that some see wrong with their actions and non-specific enough to allow those who defend some of her actions to not get in a snit.

Yes, The Shi'ia world dominated and supported by Iran has sworn to the destruction of Israel and that's just plain wrong. At the same time, it is a political sentiment and as such is not subject to the death penalty.

Yes, every life is precious and has real worth. The operative word here is 'every'. The word 'every' is an absolute.

Yes, a Shi'ia crescent stretching from Iran, through Iraq, to Syria and on to Lebanon is not a good thing until there is respect for all views in the Middle East (and beyond, for that matter).

Yes, the Islamic world has as much right to their views and to self-determination as any peoples anywhere.

Yes, Israel has a right to exist and to have peaceful neighbors.

Yes, a self determined Arab world has a right to exist and to have peaceful neighbors. This includes the actors with the starring roles on today's world stage (Lebanon, Syria, Iran, et al).

Yes, the Palestinians have as much right to a homeland as any peoples on Earth. This inlcudes the right to self-determination and the freedom to have whatever form of government they wish. This also inlcudes the right to live unmolested by any and all outside forces.

Yes, 'Israeli' and 'Jewish' are different words with different meanings and can, in fact, be both mutually exclusive and completely inclusive.

Yes, grabs for power, for influence, for oil, for water, for land, for rights of way, for whatever resource the grabber is seeking, is wrong and inexcusable.

Yes, you should be able to agree with everyting in this post.

Yes, everything stated above should be taken at face value.

Yes, the only agenda is to find a way to agreement and harmony.

Yes, the list might be unintentionally incomplete.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:31 PM
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1. Wow -- DU's most reasoned post yet on the Mideast conflict?
n/t
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:31 PM
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2. Yes I agree with you. Well written Husb. eom
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:32 PM
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3. yes
had to think about #3, but yes, even Mr.bush, even PaulPot, even ACoulter has some worth somewhere to someone. (Maybe it made someone happy when they smiled when they were 3 months old)

Thank you.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:36 PM
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4. I agree, but would like to add:
CEASEFIRE -- complete and immediate -- is the only right thing to do at the moment. Civilians should be allowed to leave harm's way (ALL civilians), and medical help should be adminitered to all who need it UNHINDERED.

And, safety fo all peacekeepers and aid workers should be guaranteed.

TC
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Magical Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:38 PM
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5. There's a book called Fuck Yes
Pretty good read.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:48 PM
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6. I agree with you
The current agenda, more war, more lethal weapons, more death and more hate, will never yield a lasting peace.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:17 PM
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7. Yes, war is not the answer.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:37 PM
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8. In the words of the immortal Marv Albert, "Yyyyeeesssssss!"
That may not be the "roadmap to peace", but at least it's the legend (the part of a map that explains the various symbols used). :thumbsup:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:18 PM
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9. What we have here is common ground ..... and all solutions between ......
....... disagreeing parties start on that special hallowed place: Common Ground.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:42 PM
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10. I agree with everything here.
:applause: Very cool.
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:00 PM
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11. Yes indeed
Too sensible, it'll never sell.
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